al-Qaeda websites wiped out, Israelis finger Brits

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al-Qaeda websites wiped out, Israelis finger Brits

Postby glooperoo » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:15 pm

I haven't heard of this particular tactic being <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1715166,00.html">used before in our beloved "Struggle against violent extremism"</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The Sunday Times - Britain<br><br>July 31, 2005 <br>Finger points to British intelligence as al-Qaeda websites are wiped out<br><br>Over the past fortnight Israeli intelligence agents have noticed something distinctly odd happening on the internet. One by one, Al-Qaeda’s affiliated websites have vanished until only a handful remain, write Uzi Mahnaimi and Alex Pell.<br><br>Someone has cut the line of communication between the spiritual leaders of international terrorism and their supporters. Since 9/11 the websites have been the main links to disseminate propaganda and information.<br><br>The Israelis detect the hand of British intelligence, determined to torpedo the websites after the London attacks of July 7.<br><br>The web has become the new battleground of terrorism, permitting a freedom of communication denied to such organisations as the IRA a couple of decades ago.<br><br>One global jihad site terminated recently was an inflammatory Pakistani site, www.mojihedun.com, in which a section entitled How to Strike a European City gave full technical instructions. Tens of similar sites, some offering detailed information on how to build and use biological weapons, have also been shut down. However, Islamic sites believed to be “moderate”, remain.<br><br>One belongs to the London-based Syrian cleric Abu Basir al-Tartusi, whose www.abubaseer.bizland.com remained operative after he condemned the London bombings.<br><br>However, the scales remain weighted in favour of global jihad, the first virtual terror organisation. For all the vaunted spying advances such as tracking mobile phones and isolating key phrases in telephone conversations, experts believe current technologies actually play into the hands of those who would harm us.<br><br>“Modern technology puts most of the advantages in the hands of the terrorists. That is the bottom line,” says Professor Michael Clarke, of King’s College London, who is director of the International Policy Institute.<br><br>Government-sponsored monitoring systems, such as Echelon, can track vast amounts of data but have so far proved of minimal benefit in preventing, or even warning, of attacks. And such systems are vulnerable to manipulation: low-ranking volunteers in terrorist organisations can create background chatter that ties up resources and maintains a threshold of anxiety. There are many tricks of the trade that give terrorists secure digital communication and leave no trace on the host computer.<br><br>Ironically, the most readily available sources of accurate online information on bomb-making are the websites of the radical American militia. “I have not seen any Al-Qaeda manuals that look like genuine terrorist training,” claims Clarke.<br><br>However, the sobering message of many security experts is that the terrorists are unlikely ever to lose a war waged with technology.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Is this a warmup for silencing all those lovely websites and online communities out there that are waking up an increasing number of people to the existence and dark realities and synthetic terror of our ruling class? I hope you have all your articles thoroughly backed up Jeff. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Website shutdowns

Postby antiaristo » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:41 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Israelis detect the hand of British intelligence, determined to torpedo the websites after the London attacks of July 7.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>glooperoo,<br>Indeed, but the question is WHY?<br><br>There is now a ton of evidence that shows 7/7 was an inside job. The official story has fallen apart so badly that they don't want to talk about it. There are regular displays of police firepower on the streets to capture popular attention.<br><br>That being the case is it not likely that the same people are behind these "radical Islamic websites" (Which seem to originate in Texas)?<br><br>That being the case, don't you think they want to cover their tracks? <p></p><i></i>
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Propaganda strikes deep

Postby Starman » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:41 pm

Glooperoo posted, in part:<br><br>“Modern technology puts most of the advantages in the hands of the terrorists. That is the bottom line,” says Professor Michael Clarke, of King’s College London, who is director of the International Policy Institute.<br><br>***<br>Jeez, Reading the above makes me want to tear my hair out --<br><br>Of course, the biggest flaw is the insinuation that the terrorists are 'them', the bad-guys, hidden 'enemies' of everything that is decent and just and good, ie, 'us'.<br><br>But beside that (a BIG besides), is the dismissive trivialization of the fact that modern war-making is overwhelmingly technical. IMO, this is yet more deliberate fear-and-terror propaganda -- ie, abandon hope,expect catastrophes, THEY (the terrorists) have the advantage. It seems intended to make people feel vulnerable and so reliant on the Gummint and Intel/Security forces to protect 'us'.<br><br>The tragicomic side of this is -- I wonder how many of these so-called AlQaeda and global jihad sites were CIA/NSA/ONI etc. -fronted disinfo/honey-trap sites, to lure-in potential recruits and/or provide bogus weapon 'recipes' (as I understood many of the formulas in the Anarchist Cookbook were). We've already seen/heard where DEA and CIA and FBI agents 'infiltrated' each other's false-front groups, or 'busted' agents from another department (before the foul-up got straightened-out). Under deep-cover, a LOT of special ops are conducted that folks presumably on the same-team don't know anything about. That's almost an absurd degree of secrecy and redundancy.<br><br>Then too, the whole thang about AlQaeda essentially being an in-house CIA/MI-6 project run thru Pakistan's ISI services. Some analysts/researchers like Jared Israel make much of AlQaeda being a secret deep-cover CIA-directed organization to work behind-the-scenes in destabilizing Russia, the Balkans, China and Eurasia/Middle East -- a thesis that has a lot going for it.<br><br>Re:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/moore3.htm">emperors-clothes.com/analysis/moore3.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>--excerpt--<br>NATO and the UN have turned the KLA terrorists into the government of Kosovo. And from that position, they have been dispatched to attack neighboring countries, particularly Macedonia. [2] <br><br>Similarly, the only reason NATO would create a Muslim extremist 'government' in Afghanistan is to destabilize surrounding states, with the big targets being especially Russia and China. <br><br>The process of absorbing rank-and-file Taliban into a Western-controlled Afghan Army was an integral part of the Afghan invasion. Thus by January 2002, thousands of Taliban soldiers were fighting on the US/NATO side. [2A] <br><br>This went virtually unreported in the Western media, as did a recent statement by Hamid Karzai, the US-chosen 'President" of Afghanistan. Mr. Karzai said Taliban clerics should participate in - indeed control - the new Afghan parliament:<br><br>[Excerpt from Agence France Presse]<br><br>Karzai said he wants Afghan clerics to be in<br>parliament like Pakistan's pro-Taliban Islamist leader<br>Maulana Fazlur Rehman, from the Pakistani six-party<br>Islamist alliance which swept to victory in North West<br>Frontier Province and holds the balance of power in<br>the federal parliament. <br><br>"I want our Taliban and our mullahs (clerics) to come<br>and do the same," Dawn quoted Karzai saying. [3]<br><br>[Excerpt from Agence France Presse ends] <br>. . .<br><br>Any explanation of Bush policy must take into account that the US *and NATO* have taken a strategic military position in Central Asia. Once you do take that into account you realize that Afghanistan fits a pattern begun under Bush, Sr. and continued under Clinton: the encirclement of Russia.<br><br>This encirclement is perhaps the most spectacular strategic military reversal ever carried out without the defeat in war of the target country. Almost all of Eastern Europe, once pro-Soviet, is now in or working closely with NATO. <br><br>The encirclement of Russia is not only a military threat. This is especially clear regarding the invasion of Afghanistan. <br><br>The US and NATO also invaded Afghanistan to enforce direct discipline over a chaotic situation in which Muslim extremists were fighting each other. Following that invasion NATO created a united, Muslim extremist government. [7] <br><br>The Soviet Union fought a decades-long war in the 1980s to prevent the formation of just such an Afghan government under NATO domination.<br><br>The underlying US/European strategy is to use Muslim extremism in Afghanistan and others states in various ways to destabilize primarily Russia, but also China and India. The US and Europe are now pushing antisemitism openly and covertly in part because this powerful prejudice fuels Muslim extremism everywhere. Case in point: last year Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir used wildly anti-Jewish arguments to justify a fanatically extremist speech to Muslim heads of state. They gave him a standing ovation. [8]<br><br>As part of this strategy, the US/European Establishment wants to more effectively utilize the Iranian brand of Muslim extremists. Hence the Iraq invasion, which removed the Baath Party’s political apparatus. (Saddam Hussein's regime was fascist, but it was too secular and too anti-Iran to suit the geopolitical needs of the US/European Establishment which requires that the Muslim Fundamentalist brand of fascism control Iraq.) <br><br>Even before the invasion we said that Iran would be the obvious winner if the US went in. [9]<br><br>Why has the Establishment encouraged opposition to this war including by giving the antiwar opposition unprecedented media coverage?<br>(WHAT???? This is plain idiotic and just Wrong -- What In the WORLD does Jared mean by 'unprecedented media coverage'?? An example of wanting to 'prove' one's thesis so badly that one conveniently sees what one wants? -- S)<br><br><br>Because massive opposition to the invasion will help the US government to do what the Establishment wants it to do: allow Muslim extremists to take power in Iraq. Thus the real *goal* of the Iraq war will be portrayed as an unintended consequence either of US errors or of a supposed 'neocon' effort to help Israel, or both these *lies*. <br><br>The Afghan invasion and the Iraq invasion are linked, and the link is, in a word, Iran. Or to put it differently, the link is the US/European Establishment’s desire to increase the power of Muslim extremism in Central and Southwest Asia while putting it more directly under Western control, and specifically to empower and more fruitfully utilize Iran.<br><br>In this regard, consider a comment made last week by Zalmay Khalilzad. Khalilzad is the protégé of Zginew Brzezinski who is *still* the overall leading US geopolitical strategist. [1<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Khalilzad has been the political architect, on the ground, for the Afghan and Iraq invasions.<br><br>Now he operates as US Ambassador to Afghanistan. <br><br>Agence France Presse reports that a week ago Khalilzad criticized some "uncooperative" leaders in Iran. Here’s the key section from the Agence France Presse dispatch:<br><br>[Agence France Presse dispatch starts here]<br><br>...there are some [pro-] al-Qaeda people there, there are some people that are not entirely cooperative with the [Afghan] central government," he said.<br><br>However those in the Iranian foreign ministry particularly were working closely with Kabul, he added. [11]<br><br>[Agence France Presse dispatch ends here]<br><br>So: The Iranian foreign ministry cooperates closely with the Karzai government in Kabul. That is the same Karzai government that was installed by top US operative Zalmay Khalilzad! [7] <br><br>Emperor's Clothes charges that the NATO-arranged cooperation of Muslim extremists in Afghanistan and Iran is aimed at secular states in the region, especially Russia. And meanwhile our so-called antiwar leaders babble on about pipeline politics and ignore the creation of a Muslim extremist juggernaut, from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan, pointed like a spear direct at the heart of Muslim Central Asia. <br><br>Jared Israel<br>Editor, Emperor's Clothes<br><br>[1] 'Encircling Russia, not oil, motivates US policy in Afghanistan!' at <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/oil-1.htm#1">www.emperors-clothes.com/...il-1.htm#1</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[2] On NATO's use of KLA terrorists against Macedonia, go to<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/mac/list-m.htm">emperors-clothes.com/mac/list-m.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>[2A] <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020118/world.htm#3">www.tribuneindia.com/2002...orld.htm#3</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[3] Agence France Presse -- English, September 17, 2004 Friday, 4:31 PM GMT, 504 words, US envoy says 'barbarian handlers' within Iranian government gaining power, Washington <br><br>[4] <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/092304Y.shtml">www.truthout.org/docs_04/092304Y.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[5] <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/ritter.htm">emperors-clothes.com/analysis/ritter.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[6] Both Truthout and Moore have claimed that a deal to actually build a pipeline came out of the Afghan war. It didn't. See, 'And They Still Haven't Built a Pipeline Through Afghanistan!'<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/relief.htm">emperors-clothes.com/arti...relief.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[7] See, "The IDLO, Backed by the US and Iran, Planned Islamic Rule for Afghanistan," at <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/news/idlo.htm">emperors-clothes.com/news/idlo.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Regarding US installation of Hamid Karzai as Afghan President, go to<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/archive/khalilzad-facts.htm#3">emperors-clothes.com/arch...acts.htm#3</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[8] "Reader says Jared Israel Quoted Mahathir 'Out of Context'" at <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/hay.htm">emperors-clothes.com/letters/hay.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[9] See <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/news/iran.htm">emperors-clothes.com/news/iran.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> and other articles on Iraq and Iran, listed at <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/iraq-iran.htm">emperors-clothes.com/iraq-iran.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>[1<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm">emperors-clothes.com/interviews/brz.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>[11]Agence France Presse -- English, September 17, 2004 Friday, 4:31 PM GMT, 504 words, US envoy says 'barbarian handlers' within Iranian government gaining power, Washington Sept 17 <br><br>***<br>Damn, but it's hard keeping track of who's on who's side, and who the so-called 'good guys' are.<br>Sometime my head wants to explode.<br>(Needed: An anarchist-bomb w/fuse smiley-face)<br>Starman<br><br>Still lookin' for the 'truth' ... <p></p><i></i>
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Re How about this?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:51 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-098.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>or this<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-003.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/waffen/violent-smiley-084.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 8/1/05 4:56 pm<br></i>
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Re: Re How about this?

Postby dbeach » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:25 pm

Al qaeda= All CIA Duh<br><br>1984 oceana is not to be confused with the genuine ocean<br><br>surfin through the Apacolypse..<br><br>when is the next where's waldo beenin london series going to be released??<br><br>for such an internationly infamous bad guy type fugitive..<br>bin laden is awfully quiet!!<br><br>5/11 plane almost<br>7/7 london<br>7/21 london<br>8/8????? <p></p><i></i>
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Maryland

Postby bethmex » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:55 pm

That being the case is it not likely that the same people are behind these "radical Islamic websites" (Which seem to originate in Texas)?<br><br>Yeah, sites that trace back to Texas and Maryland.<br><br>"Peaceful (pre-warned) Israelis (in charge of tube security, will you look at that...) say Noble Brits on Oceana's Heels!"<br><br>I find particularly interesting the deafening silence surrounding the name, rank, serial number of the, er, 'officer' who pumped a clip into the bad A-rab I mean Brazilian who jumped the barrier I mean paid and walked through the turnstile.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: al-Qaeda websites wiped out, Israelis finger Brits

Postby DrDebugDU » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:40 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> I hope you have all your articles thoroughly backed up Jeff.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>About articles and the internet. John Simkin from the Spartacus had some complaints on his messageboard about some google pages ( Operation Mockingbird / Mary Pinchot Meyer (JFK's mistress) / Frank Wisner and Philip Graham ) which disappeared from google.com which were present on other google sites. After he put a story in the Guardian they suddenly reappeared. I am not saying censorship, but there was something odd with google and missing pages ( <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3054">educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3054</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> )<br><br>It seems that google is maintaining multiple main databases which should be exactly the same. The reason why they are not is not known, but the missing pages are usually controversial subjects. The number of missing pages is very small.<br><br>You can check it by running the same query through google.com and then changing the extension in google.fr and actively select a site. The results should be the same. (If you don't select a site the order is different since google usually a locality relevance in sorting the outcome of the query, so a query about Mockingbird from France will produce different outcomes than a query from the US due to locality relevance).<br><br>So I just ran this messageboard through google.com and there were 101 indexed pages on google.fr (since this is a messageboard only a very small fraction gets indexed) and 100 indexed pages on google.com.<br><br>The difference was on page 4:<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.fr/search?q=site:p097.ezboard.com+rigorous&hl=en&lr=&start=40&sa=N">www.google.fr/search?q=site:p097.ezboard.com+rigorous&hl=en&lr=&start=40&sa=N</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site:p097.ezboard.com+rigorous&hl=en&lr=&start=40&sa=N">www.google.com/search?q=site:p097.ezboard.com+rigorous&hl=en&lr=&start=40&sa=N</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>For some reason <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Was Nicola Calipari Murdered?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> was not found in the US/UK central database even though it was spidered.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=524.topic">p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=524.topic</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>As far as the blog goes. There was one missing as well. The .com had 264 indexed pages while the .fr had 265 indexed pages with the difference on page 21<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site:rigorousintuition.blogspot.com&hl=en&lr=&start=200&sa=N">www.google.com/search?q=site:rigorousintuition.blogspot.com&hl=en&lr=&start=200&sa=N</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.fr/search?q=site:rigorousintuition.blogspot.com&hl=en&lr=&start=200&sa=N">www.google.fr/search?q=site:rigorousintuition.blogspot.com&hl=en&lr=&start=200&sa=N</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>And the missing story was:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Who shall I say is calling?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/05/who-shall-i-say-is-calling.html">rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/05/who-shall-i-say-is-calling.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Let me say that it could be a coincidence (unlike MSN who is using a clear censorship of controversial issues) and the number of missing pages is usually very limited, but it something to be aware off. <p></p><i></i>
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