vanlose kid wrote:this is important.
how it's done.
what the endless keynesian printing Stiglitz and Krugman champion is for.The Greek Bankruptcy: One Year Later - Exposing The Charlatans Formerly Lost In Translation
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 05/23/2011 15:30 -0400
What a difference a year makes. It was just over a year ago that Greece received its first (and certainly not last) $1 trillion + bailout package from the EU, the ECB and the IMF.
!! The Greek "bailout" was not a trillion! More like $130 bn, if memory serves. A trillion is the total size of the fund for potential bailouts mustered by ECB, EU and IMF.
Just over 12 months later, all those who peddled Greek bonds to the rest of the world (ahem Germany) are now furiously backtracking, having finally realized what we, and everyone else with half a brain said from the beginning: it's over for Greece, for the eurozone in its current configuration, and for the single currency. But fine, let's kick the can down the road for a few more months, which will allow banks, with access to interest-free central bank capital, to literally steal Greece's soon to be privatized assets for pennies on the dollar, and then send the carcass, now picked dry, to the international bankruptcy court.
Very much up to the Greek people to prevent this by forcing a default now, not later.
In the meantime, we would like expose all the idiots, who like various anchors on Comcast's bubblevision channel, pitched Greek paper to hapless investors, only to see losses (this is not some speculative asset - this is fixed income) of over 40% in one year, and for some reason continue to have a podium from which to spread their lunacy, greed and outright stupidity.
From "We are buying Greek Governmen Bonds!", published in Handelsblatt May 3, 2010:
SNIP (CHOICE QUOTES FROM BANKSTERS PUMPING GREEK BONDS)
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/greek- ... ranslation
So, VK. Hats off to TD for exposing the opportunistic lying of all those who pitched Greek bonds a year ago. I don't get your comment at the start, however, since quotes from Krugman (definitely not my top pick for an expert) or Stiglitz (quite a touch better) aren't included. What are you referring to?
I don't see how these examples of bond-market dominance must relate to Keynes. Keynesianism, which was eschewed and outre for 30 years while the Friedmanites ran riot with their market creed as the cover for total deregulation for bankers and credit markets, has been rediscovered opportunistically since 2008 as a justification for the banker bailouts and QEs. Only since then has the pretense again become loud that "we're all Keynesians," in an Orwellian switch. It's not at all clear how the real Keynes would have viewed these monetary-side measures, especially given how transparent the real motives are (i.e., they're to rescue the banks, any stimulatory effect as advertised is in truth incidental). The only halfway Keynesian or New Deal program was the stimulus package, a straight fiscal measure separate from the bailouts. It was a half-measure at best as it focused almost entirely on aggregate demand (tax credits and bulk spending grants), not on a rational program of investment targeting job creation.
You might love the following two "Keynes vs. Hayek" videos. They are brilliant and really fun as performance and poetry set to music; the skew becomes obvious especially in the second, which is "fixed" to have Hayek win the argument (and it's no surprise as a pro-Austrian think tank is responsible, and both pieces show real production budgets). I think the boom and bust mechanics are described well in the first, while the World War II and postwar history is mangled in the second. I dispute the equation of any stimulus with central planning, or the description of either as "top-down," while freeing markets is "bottom-up." The main fallacy I see is in thinking that the state is a corrupt and insensitive, centralized planning device, but the "market" when unleashed is a means for allowing needs to be met by producers in an organic, ultimately fine-tuned fashion without one big plan.
In fact the market is just as susceptible to centralizing tendencies that leave a relative handful of capital holders commanding a centralized power potentially even more autocratic and unaccountable than the state's (since the latter might be susceptible to democratic control or rule of law). This was the result of the 30-year deregulation advocated by the Friedmanites inspired by Hayek. In reality, the truly powerful central economic institutions of the state -- the Treasury, the Federal Reserve, the other major central banks -- are captured and captive to Wall Street and a few other international finance centers (and major corporations, especially the energy, war and pharmaceutical sectors). This is what the "Hayek" character is allowed to say in the second video, but omitting the matter of this being the inevitable result of unregulated market capitalism. Meanwhile, everything else that is "government" is broken into hundreds of local, state and national units that are ineffective in the face of uncontrolled capital flows and are reduced to little more than location managers who compete with each other in trying to offer the most attractive (low) wages and other perks for capital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc