UFO event in Norway

[brainpanhandler]

besides it seems to be more like a projection from some kind of big projector on the other side of that mountain range, like from the antenna station just on the other side which,

Wait, what? Which photo or video are you talking about? And how do you know exactly where it was taken and what mountain range is in it?

[82_28]

Christopher Knowles has been pondering his ass off it appears (who knew?). EXTREMELY FASCINATING post today. Check it!

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2009/12/s ... art-1.html

[Dradin Kastell]

A couple more pictures from Norway, courtesy of the Norwegian State Television website:





http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nordland/1.6902336


These two show the lower part highlighted in the pic posted by Penguin, reminescent of the older missile photos we have seen in the thread.


The "Norrländska Socialdemokraten" (a local party paper) website has the only photo from Sweden I found after a short googling:

http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx?articleid=5054543

The photo was taken by one Patrik Öhman, from Puoltsa, on his way to work in Kiruna. Öhman says he could see the spiral forming and claims he saw the phenomenon for about 30 seconds before it was "gone". When you compare that with the Norwegian accounts, it seems that about 250 km away near Kiruna there was much less time and a smaller opportunity to catch the event.

I am yet to find Finnish photos and I agree with Penguin. Most of Finland is still further away and the "arm" projecting towards Tromso is highest ground in Finnish Lapland: one could have seen the phenomenon, but the Skands might well block the view for most people farther away. Also, Finland has been heavily overcast the last few days: clouds could also account for Öhman seeing the complete spiral for only half a minute.

Comparing the difference between the lower and upper parts of the "missile trajectory" I was moved to speculate if the spiral was the result of some interplay between a Russian test (failed or successful) and something the good people at EISCAT were doing at the moment. Accidental or planned?

[MacCruiskeen]

The "Norrländska Socialdemokraten" (a local party paper) website has the only photo from Sweden I found after a short googling:

http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx?articleid=5054543

The photo was taken by one Patrik Öhman, from Puoltsa, on his way to work in Kiruna.

That's remarkable. Both the large spiral and the angle of the "funnel" extending from it look identical to those in the Norwegian photos. But the pictures were taken, what, 250km apart?

Öhman says he could see the spiral forming and claims he saw the phenomenon for about 30 seconds before it was "gone". When you compare that with the Norwegian accounts, it seems that about 250 km away near Kiruna there was much less time and a smaller opportunity to catch the event.

Strange. Why would that be? If the "event" really took place in the upper atmosphere, then surely it should have been visible everywhere (in that part of the world) for the same period of time? I mean, there's a very big difference between "about 30 seconds" and "about ten minutes".

[Penguin]

As Dradin says, I think the weather was overcast on 9.12. in Finnish part of Lapland, here is past weather data for Kuusamo - Oulu on 9.12.
http://www.timeanddate.com/weather/finl ... d=20091209
Its weird that they saw it in Kiruna, which is somewhat south from Tromsö. Odd trajectory...

Btw, here is Sodankylä Geophysical Observatorys site -
http://www.sgo.fi/Data/observations.php
They track aurora borealis. Nothing on their all-sky camera on 9.12.

http://www.ursa.fi/ursa/jaostot/tekokuu ... 51221.html
This page is from Ursa, an astronomical society, about a Bulava launch in 2005 and the images are of the light phenomenon caused by it back then. They do look somewhat similar, imho, notice the blue thicker plume as well. Nothing like the spiral, in any case.

And this page has links to other rocket / missile spottings in finnish skies -
http://www.ursa.fi/ursa/jaostot/tekokuut/indexrak.html
No recent updates there and nothing on this latest event.

(that Secret Sun post is interesting, likewise)

[2012 Countdown]

I agree one of the photos looks 'shopped (I think we all know which one), but that is pure unsubstantiated speculation.

I don't think anybody has actually said that yet, although I initially questioned whether that image was real or not.

Here's the homepage of the copyright holder Rex Features:

http://www.rexfeatures.com/

They've got a photospread of the nobel peace prize concert, hosted by Will Smith, prominently displayed on their homepage.


Does anybody know what the facility is in the foreground?

About Rex

As one of the world’s leading independent photographic press agencies and picture libraries, Rex Features has an international reputation as a premiere source of images and features for the world’s media.

We have offices in New York, London and Los Angeles, and partner agencies around the world.

With over 50 years in the business, Rex is famous for its range and depth of images – be it personalities, news and features, travel, business, animal, humour, lifestyle, fashion, music, historical or stock images.

Excellent, personalised service has ensured invaluable client loyalty, but it is the quality of our images that sees our work used every day across all media platforms.

Our online database allows immediate access to more than 4,500,000 images, with thousands of new pictures added daily. And with our user-friendly website you can easily find the image you are looking for 24 hours a day.

But in the unlikely event you can’t find it online, we have a rich archive of over 15 million images. Our friendly, knowledgeable researchers will be happy to help you find just the picture you need.

Yes, thats the one...looks too perfect, doesn't it. I dunno.
Anyway, just doing some playing around, which may or not -add to discussion...





Archimedean spiral
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Archimedean spiral (also known as the arithmetic spiral) is a spiral named after the 3rd century BC Greek mathematician Archimedes. It is the locus of points corresponding to the locations over time of a point moving away from a fixed point with a constant speed along a line which rotates with constant angular velocity. Equivalently, in polar coordinates (r, θ) it can be described by the equation

with real numbers a and b. Changing the parameter a will turn the spiral, while b controls the distance between successive turnings.
Archimedes described such a spiral in his book On Spirals.

Characteristics

This Archimedean spiral is distinguished from the logarithmic spiral by the fact that successive turnings of the spiral have a constant separation distance (equal to 2πb if θ is measured in radians), while in a logarithmic spiral these distances form a geometric progression.
Note that the Archimedean spiral has two arms, one for θ > 0 and one for θ < 0. The two arms are smoothly connected at the origin. Only one arm is shown on the accompanying graph. Taking the mirror image of this arm across the y-axis will yield the other arm.
One method of squaring the circle, by relaxing the strict limitations on the use of straightedge and compass in ancient Greek geometric proofs, makes use of an Archimedean spiral.
Sometimes the term Archimedean spiral is used for the more general group of spirals

The normal Archimedean spiral occurs when x = 1. Other spirals falling into this group include the hyperbolic spiral, Fermat's spiral, and the lituus. Virtually all static spirals appearing in nature are logarithmic spirals, not Archimedean ones. Many dynamic spirals (such as the Parker spiral of the solar wind, or the pattern made by a Catherine's wheel) are Archimedean.

Applications
The Archimedean spiral has a plethora of real-world applications. Scroll compressors, made from two interleaved Archimedean spirals of the same size, are used for compressing liquids and gases.[1] The coils of watch balance springs and the grooves of very early gramophone records form Archimedean spirals, making the grooves evenly spaced and maximizing the amount of music that could be fit onto the record (although this was later changed to allow better sound quality).[2] Asking for a patient to draw an Archimedean spiral is a way of quantifying human tremor; this information helps in diagnosing neurological diseases. Archimedean spirals are also used in DLP projection systems to minimize the "Rainbow Effect", making it look as if multiple colors are displayed at the same time, when in reality red, green, and blue are being cycled extremely quickly.[3] Also, Archimedean spirals are used in food microbiology to quantify bacterial concentration through a spiral platter.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedean_spiral

[Maddy]

At that exact time, from the approximate area the missle would have been coming from, at that 33 degree angle in the chart shown in the above post (shown here by the red dot), we have (in really really really basic terms):

Mercury (communication) conjunct (same as/enhances) Pluto (mystery/change) in Capricorn (patriarchy) in the Fifth House (creation)- patriarchal, authoritarian secretive creative communication. (Obama's speech?)

Mercury (communication) and Pluto (mystery/change) square (conflict) the Moon (emotions) and Saturn (authoritarian/patriarchal) in Libra (balance/justice) in the Third House (communication/travel)- emotions and justice restricted by authoritarian secretiveness and communication.

Uranus (chaos/change) in Pisces (subconscious) square (conflict) Pluto (change/self control) in Capricorn (patriarchy) and opposed (stress/off-balance) Mercury (communication) in the Ninth House (education, travel, legal) - subconscious, mystery chaos puts legal/education communication off-balance.

Mars (energy, war) in Leo (Sun, ruling) Ascending (out front, what you see) opposed (stress/off-balance) Jupiter (expansion) and Uranus (chaos, spiritual growth) in Aries (beginnings) Descending (partnerships) - ruling energy overtly shows stress to spiritual expansion in partnerships.

This is really a very bad reading of this, but the concept is there. The above post with the 33 degree thing made me think of looking this up. Someone who is better at this than I am might choose to make a better go at a reading.

[Penguin]

Is the Rex Features photo the only one showing the spiral in such perfectness?
(that archimedean spiral angle was interesting)

[MacCruiskeen]

Is the Rex Features photo the only one showing the spiral in such perfectness?

No. The Swedish photo posted by Dradin Kastell shows an equally-perfect spiral from 250 km away - and the "funnel spiral" at the very same angle:

http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx? ... id=5054543

(For some reason I can't copy-and-paste the image. You have to view it on the link.)

[Penguin]

Ah yes, I had scripts blocked so the pic didnt view...and the beer....

[2012 Countdown]

The above post with the 33 degree thing made me think of looking this up. Someone who is better at this than I am might choose to make a better go at a reading.

Well, the thing about that is, since we are looking at a 3 dimensional form from a particular vantage point, the 33 (+/-) degree measurement I noted can vary wildly depending on where you are located... we must assume (big assumption) that this is intended to reveal something specific by someone, and that this view would be the 'proper' vantage point to observe. It is totally presumptuous and without any unbiased support. BUT, if we note that the spiral is almost perfectly, squarely in front of us to observe its characteristics, perhaps this was close to the intended view, if there is even any intent at all.

[MacCruiskeen]

Ah yes, I had scripts blocked so the pic didnt view...and the beer....

Well, Penguin, if I had just been in spiral orbit around a hyperdimensional black hole, then I would probably need several beers too.

Glad to see you didn't burn up on re-entry.

[Maddy]

Oh, no, it had just reminded me of an astrology chart, so I did one online quickly. And it was just coincidental that the major conjunction and squares happened to be at the same place. But the chart itself was interesting, I thought.

[2012 Countdown]

Oh, no, it had just reminded me of an astrology chart, so I did one online quickly. And it was just coincidental that the major conjunction and squares happened to be at the same place. But the chart itself was interesting, I thought.

Very interesting from a conceptual standpoint I agree. If I appeared too dismissive I apologize, I was just attempting to qualify the observation. As someone asked it might be helpful to consider just where/what is that particular location's function/purpose.

I'm about to work on the other view image I captured, posted by Dradin Kastell
http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/artikel.aspx? ... id=5054543

(its flashed based, which is why Mac couldn't post it as an image.)

[2012 Countdown]

This one gets really grainy when i blow it up, and it is difficult to see the spirals when I start overlaying. Only notes on this is I had to adjust (distort it a bit) the Archimedian spiral overlay to have it loosely conform to the photograph.
Also, the angle/degree of the 'blue' swirly has changed. This would mean that the main form is relatively planar/ 2D to a large degree (I think), and since the angles are changing slightly, this photo was taken nearby the others, but who can say by how far a distance.