UFO event in Norway

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Postby 2012 Countdown » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:33 pm

...and finally,two more for the grinder...
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And for comparison to further illustrate the 2d/planar aspect to the main form, this one clearly illustrates the thinking as i had to severely distort the spiral...

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The second photo comes from this site-
http://news.cnet.com/2300-11386_3-10002 ... ?tag=mncol

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Then there is the matter of the 'black hole' afterbirth, which I have no explanation for (image can be found at link above as well)...

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Postby Maddy » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:28 pm

I think its that black hole picture that got me more than any of the others, considering it came after the others. That was what kind of made me go, "Hm!"
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:29 pm

According to Mr. Pinchbeck, the Norway Spiral was a manifestation of collective subconscious thought-forms manifesting itself in the Norwegian skies...

Certainly sounds romantic, though I'm not so certain our current breed of Man are quite at the point yet of conjuring such visual spectacles for all to see... but perhaps that's just the cynic in me. Must be all the Reality TV that generates such negative thoughts for my fellow Man... [and I don't even watch such nonsense, save for those occasions when it'd be invariably tuned on at a friend's/family member's abode, and then it's like rubber-necking at the scene of a car wreck -- it's almost impossible to not stare]

http://www.realitysandwich.com/thoughts_norway_spiral

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The magnificent spiral spectacle manifested one night before President Obama’s speech accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, in Oslo, and during the Copenhagen conference on climate change. It therefore seems to be a kind of focusing event for human consciousness. Following the works of the Russian scientist Alexey Dmitriev and others, Mark Heley, author of The Everything Guide to 2012, proposes that such an event could be plasma phenomena -- plasma that is artificially induced and intelligently guided. It is possible that such an apparition is somehow co-created or imprinted by the collective field of the human psyche. Whatever the case, it is hard to escape the impression that the Norway Spiral is a kind of thought-form that took tangible form and inscribed itself in the atmosphere.

The Norway spiral has resonance with the Hopi prophecies of the Blue Star Kachina, which appears at the end of the Fourth World -- if not that signifying event itself, perhaps a foreshadowing or retro-causal echo of it. The spiral seems like a message, invitation, or indication that the earth and its inhabitants are on the threshold of a deep transformation. While most of my work over the last years has been an effort to understand this transformation and help myself and others prepare for it, I admit to feeling, if anything, an increasing confusion and uncertainty about it. What is happening seems to be taking place beyond the reach of the conceptual and rational mind, requiring an innate, intuitive, heart-centered response, as much as a logical and empirical one.


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Some entertaining links at the end of his ruminations. It seems we are all being groomed for an event or 'unveiling' of some sort, as a wide array of internet mystics/shamans/charlatans have been indicating for some time:

A negative spin on the apparition is given by Richard Hoagland, author of Dark Mission, here: http://www.enterprisemission.com/Norway-Message.htm

David Wilcock argues disclosure is imminent: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start ... nt-updates

The Chief Astronomer of the Vatican states: "Just like there is an abundance of creatures on earth, there could also be other beings, even intelligent ones, that were created by God. That doesn't contradict our faith, because we cannot put boundaries to God's creative freedom. As saint Francis would say, when we consider the earthly creatures to be our "brothers and sisters," why couldn't we also talk about a "extraterrestrial brother"? He would still be part of creation."

The Vatican holds conference on extraterrestrial life: http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/10 ... rial-life/
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:56 am

Belligerent Savant wrote:Some entertaining links at the end of his ruminations. It seems we are all being groomed for an event or 'unveiling' of some sort, as a wide array of internet mystics/shamans/charlatans have been indicating for some time:


It wouldn't shock me.

It would take more than towers falling or a mushroom cloud to shock people these days.

In fact, Americans and parts of the world are more than ever susceptible
to a mass traumatic programming event(whoever or whatever would be behind it) ESPECIALLY given the LAST year of the first millennium decade will go down in peoples minds as being the year of Tiger Woods sex scandals, Michael Jackson, Obama polarization, swine flu, Kanye West and balloon boy. A once unthinkable event(live CNN footage of a UFO or UFO armada?) doesn't seem too strange to me. Just more of the same.
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Postby lightningBugout » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:24 am

Charles Ledbetter and Annie Besant: Thought Forms (1905)

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Postby Nordic » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:44 am

This photo:

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It looks photoshopped because it was taken with a camera on a perfectly still tripod, over a period of many many seconds, so it captured a great deal of time, i.e. almost all of the "spiralling".

Other than that, it doesn't look remotely photoshopped to me. It has all the usual earmarks of a photo that captures, in one long exposure, a lot of movement. You can see this with photos of streams, or the ocean, or clouds, they blur over a long period of time, and they blur very neatly.

But what DOES bother me about it is how perfectly set up it is.

I've tried to photograph northern lights, and lightning, and it's really difficult, because you can't frame up the damn camera, you can only guess. There's a lot of luck involved. When you look through the camera at the night sky, it's just black. There's no reference. You really have no idea where you're pointing it! Of course in this shot there's the lit ground, so that wouldn't be such a big deal .... still ....

So what gets me about this photograph is not the actual quality of it, that's the easy part, provided you can actually set your camera up, on a tripod, in a place that affords you a CLEAR VIEW OF THE SKY, which is extremely rare unless you live in the freakin' desert.

Then to have it captured, and have the right exposure, and all of that when you're probably practically trembling with excitement at this absolutely fucking FREAKY thing that's taking place in the sky in front of you .....

That's what bugs me about that photo. It's almost like whoever took it knew it was going to happen ahead of time.

Of course that's pure speculation on my part, based on experience and knowledge of these things.

Maybe somebody just happened to be trying to shoot the northern lights that night (which wouldn't be exactly unusual in that part of the world) and happened to see the whole thing begin.

The freaky black-hole-opening thing at the end is, yes, by far the spookiest, asshole-tightening part of the whole thing, but if the rocket-spinning-spewing-fuel theory is to be believed, I think that video covered it by saying that's when the fuel ran out and the fuel that had already been ejected kept ejecting, thus resulting in what appears to be a spreading black hole.

What's also so weird to me is that humanity isn't talking about this, really. They'd rather talk about Tiger Wood's oh-so-busy cock.

This is gonna go down as one of the weirdest years in history. And one of the weirdest years, personally, for me ever, and in ways that are almost nothing-but-bad.

The last year that was so strange, IMO, was 1989. Tianamen Square, the Berlin Wall falling down, the Romanian Revolution ......

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Postby Dradin Kastell » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:53 am

2012 Countdown wrote:Also, the angle/degree of the 'blue' swirly has changed. This would mean that the main form is relatively planar/ 2D to a large degree (I think), and since the angles are changing slightly, this photo was taken nearby the others, but who can say by how far a distance.


Öhman says he had just turned to the road towards Kiruna when he saw the lights and stopped. Thus, the Swedish photo was taken at approx. 5 km directly south from Kiruna. According to Google Maps the distance, as a missile flies, from that place to downtown Tromsö is 220 km: I overestimated a bit in my earlier post. For example photo 14 on the NRK site I linked was taken almost exactly 220 km away, from Slettaelva on the north side of the center of Tromsö.

EDIT: OK. At the Norwegian "Verdens Gang" website, the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen says he took the Rex Features picture, facing east, at the Dampskipskaia (Stem Boa Pier) in at approx 07.50. He says he had two to three minutes of time.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/vaer/artikkel.php?artid=596369

Verdens Gang wrote:UTROLIG: - Bildene er tatt på dampskipskaia i retning øst, cirka klokka 07.50. Jeg kan tenke meg at det pågikk i to, tre minutter. Det var ikke til å tru. Jeg ble helt skjelven da jeg så det, sier Jan Petter Jørgensen. Bildet er tatt med stativ og lang lukkertid. Foto: Jan Petter Jørgensen


There is a Dampskipkaia in Tromsö, but the VG article does not explicitly place the picture in the town.

BUT. At the Godlike Productions forum, one analysis places the location of the photo at the island of Skjervoy:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message941668/pg1

SHR Forum Administrator 12/11/2009 2:41 PM wrote:So probably the most popular of the spiral photos. Where excatly was it taken, well I believe I have discovered from where that was. Have not seen anything definative around the web, but I'm sure this is it.

The small Norwegian port town of "Skervoy" North of Tomso. The mountain which is viewable in the pic are "The Sawback" Mountains east of Skervoy. Found some Hi-res photos of these and they line up about perfectly with the mountain ridge in the photo.

So now you know where the photo came from. The small mountain I pointed to on the map pic may or may not be the one in the photo, it may also be some of the larger ones a bit farther away, but there's no doubt in my mind the mountain in the photo is the "Sawback" mountain....

Happy hunting if you want to go nuts on google earth or look for more orientation photos...now you know where to look..;)



Later posters think it is a composite of different locations:

Da Swede" User ID: 837602 12/12/2009 5:43 PM wrote:

After a little research, this is what gives;
the guy,Jan Petter Jørgensen, who supposedly took the timelapse photo is not to be found anywhere in the areas in question, here are the four guys I found in Norway.

[link to www.gulesider.no ]

The photo seems to be a composite, with a mountainrange from Skervöy photoshopped in. This seems to be the photo most widely spread. And so far, I´ve yet to see it stated in what harbour it was actually taken.
In all the articles I´ve read on Norwegian sites, the phenomena is not once mentioned in relation to Skjervöy !!

But seen from far down in Norway, up to Tromsö and above..

Something is very wrong in all this !
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Postby justdrew » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:19 am

and as I suggested was likely previously... that this is a solid fuel missile... confirmation:

here at stratfor
Enter the Bulava. In 1998, the Makeyev Design Bureau (responsible for the SS-N-20) and the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology (responsible for the successful land-based solid-fuel ICBM, the Topol-M [SS-27], and its predecessor) began work on a project that was almost certainly designed around a conservative approach to the new SLBM, leveraging proven design concepts with as low-risk an approach as possible. The program has since enjoyed a position of privilege and focus in terms of Russian defense spending and the allocation of resources.


so... that's it for the spewing fuel theory... there was no liquid fuel to spew.
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:36 am

Not to channel Mr. Manatee, but look at the timing of this strange specter. I said it before, but we must not lose sight of that. Nobody has commented on this yet, but I posted awhile back the link to this secret sun post:

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2009/12/s ... art-1.html

Again, check that out, if you haven't yet. Look at the photos of the staircase where Obama "accepted" his "peace" prize.
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:40 am

Can anyone determine given the time, latitude and such, what this spiral was astronomically focused on?
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Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:31 am

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nordic wrote:That's what bugs me about that photo. It's almost like whoever took it knew it was going to happen ahead of time.


For once we couldn't agree more. That's exactly right. There were other pictures taken from this location as well.

There was that warning from the russian mod. Yes?


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I'm guessing these were all taken without even moving the tripod around and the images were just cropped?

on edit: it looks as though the photographer moved through the gates and to the right.
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Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:10 am

Dradin Kastell wrote:
EDIT: OK. At the Norwegian "Verdens Gang" website, the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen says he took the Rex Features picture, facing east, at the Dampskipskaia (Stem Boa Pier) in at approx 07.50. He says he had two to three minutes of time.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/vaer/artikkel.php?artid=596369

Verdens Gang wrote:UTROLIG: - Bildene er tatt på dampskipskaia i retning øst, cirka klokka 07.50. Jeg kan tenke meg at det pågikk i to, tre minutter. Det var ikke til å tru. Jeg ble helt skjelven da jeg så det, sier Jan Petter Jørgensen. Bildet er tatt med stativ og lang lukkertid. Foto: Jan Petter Jørgensen


There is a Dampskipkaia in Tromsö, but the VG article does not explicitly place the picture in the town.


Alright, let's assume Jørgensen knows where he was and is not lying. For sure I think it is true that the photographer had to be facing east or southeast, assuming that's sunlight over the horizon.

Let's also assume that SHR at GLP has correctly identified the mountains, which I think they have made a pretty compelling case for. However, I think SHR is incorrect in identifying the mountains in the google maps image they posted, not least of which because the mountains they point out in the google maps image are west of Skjervoy and they have to be east of Skjervoy.

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This picture from the zagbot collection SHR at glp links to needs to be shot in the afternoon if the photographer is facing east as I think he needs to be and the shadows are oriented as they are in this image.

I think I have located the correct mountains on google maps. More soon.
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Postby Dradin Kastell » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:28 am

brainpanhandler wrote:Alright, let's assume Jørgensen knows where he was and is not lying. For sure I think it is true that the photographer had to be facing east or southeast, assuming that's sunlight over the horizon.

Let's also assume that SHR at GLP has correctly identified the mountains, which I think they have made a pretty compelling case for. However, I think SHR is incorrect in identifying the mountains in the google maps image they posted, not least of which because the mountains they point out in the google maps image are west of Skjervoy and they have to be east of Skjervoy.

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This picture from the zagbot collection SHR at glp links to needs to be shot in the afternoon if the photographer is facing east as I think he needs to be and the shadows are oriented as they are in this image.

I think I have located the correct mountains on google maps. More soon.


In fact, as opposed to Da Swede's comment I posted above, there appears to live a man by the name of Jan Petter Jørgensen in or near Skjervoy: he is (or has been) active at the local sports club, Skjervoy IK. I even have his phone number here, if someone wants to call him to find out if he is the same guy... :)
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Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:41 am

So the red pin marks skjervoy. You can see the mountains I've labeled "sawback mountains". The small island just north of the sawbacks is called haukoysundem which I believe is visible in two of the photos taken by Jørgensen just above the building on the left and is also visible in the photo from the zagbot site on the far left.

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That means there needs to be a place in skjervoy called Dampskipkaia if Jørgensen is not mistaken about his location or lying.
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Postby elfismiles » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:51 am

justdrew wrote:and as I suggested was likely previously... that this is a solid fuel missile... confirmation:

here at stratfor
Enter the Bulava. In 1998, the Makeyev Design Bureau (responsible for the SS-N-20) and the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology (responsible for the successful land-based solid-fuel ICBM, the Topol-M [SS-27], and its predecessor) began work on a project that was almost certainly designed around a conservative approach to the new SLBM, leveraging proven design concepts with as low-risk an approach as possible. The program has since enjoyed a position of privilege and focus in terms of Russian defense spending and the allocation of resources.


so... that's it for the spewing fuel theory... there was no liquid fuel to spew.


Yeah, JD, thanks for restating this issue / question.

Here is what I've read someone else say on the UFO UpDates eList:

Don Ledger wrote:>There is nothing unusual about the rocket's antics. It was
>wobbling as it went skyward. It was solid fuel containing fine
>aluminum particles in its chemical mixture which [its exhaust
>by-product] was backlit by the Sun which was over the horizon
>for the observors and showed up a greenish blue which is the
>spectrum your would expect to see from the aluminum particles.


Still not sure wtf though.

Is this video, David Wilcock claims that one of photos or sets of footage is with an infrared camera that indicates a LOT of heat to this thing. Not sure I believe this without the details of WHICH photo/footage and confirmation of that info...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFWI0kbsiK8

... and of course he has an "insider" telling him this IS blue beam tech.

Perhaps even more interesting is this video below's claims that ... there was ANOTHER missile / spiral weirdness recorded around the same time over Siberia:

ANOTHER Bizarre Blue Light Spiral over Siberia 10th Dec. 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-qVs3wrUM

Just a day after a Russian rocket launch set off a spate of UFO sightings in Norway, yet another missile test created a similar sky show over Siberia.

Like Wednesday's launch of the submarine-based Bulava missile from the White Sea, Thursday's launch of the land-based Topol ballistic missile from the Kapustin Yar missile range on the lower Volga River sparked plenty of sightings. Reports came in from Chelyabinsk, Yekaterinburg, Ufa and other Siberian cities, said NBC News space analyst James Oberg.



But perhaps the most interesting thing I've come across so far that finally actually connects this Norway Spiral to "UFOs" is this info from Bert Reijersen van Buuren (again via the UFO UpDates eList - Bert also is the source of the above linked video) that a similar phenomena was recorded at the famous Hesdalen

Bert Reijersen van Buuren wrote:
Years ago the same phenomenon happened in Hesdalen Norway:

Movie 4 + 5.

http://niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=22309

http://www.hessdalen.org/index_e.shtml

and recently in China and Rusland the same phenomenon:

http://niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=22332



The direct links to those videos are here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUQF-QnnxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gBLxowe25Q


WOOT!!!
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