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[chiggerbit]

"Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them."

~Albert Einstein

[Jeff]

"Certain unexplained rumours, events, and vanishments occur among men where the Zoogs have access, and it is well that they cannot travel far outside the world of dream." - HP Lovecraft

[Ben D]

True understanding is not just understanding understanding, it is also understanding not understanding."

- Bodhidharma

[Raamin]

Of all that is written I love only what a man has written with his blood. Write with blood, and you will experience that blood is spirit... Whoever writes in blood and aphorisms does not want to be read but to be learned by heart.

In the mountains the shortest way is from peak to peak: but for that one must have long legs...

Thus Spoke Zarathustra

[Joe Hillshoist]

One of the reasons Andy is playing so well is that, before the final round, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them. Oh my God, what have I just said?

- Unnamed Tennis Comentator 2004 Olympics

[American Dream]

The Institutions Of The Flame War

Ah, but think! The institution of flame war is beautiful. Bagwan Shree Rajneesh advised his followers to not shrink from anger but hold onto anger, to become anger. Yes, focus on that spot of rage, of anger. Just think, America is filled with rage, this must be the most rage filled area that has ever existed just from it's sheer horror and alienation. We must tune into that experience, we must honor that experience, and if we understand the yuppies driving home on the freeway after being laid-off from his dot-com and the ghetto-dweller again being last hired, first fired. If we tune into all this, then, then, we may coax, we may aim this rage in right direction, the direction of creative destruction. So, if you are flaming out there, flame on.

[Jeff]

In silence you can't hide anything, as you can in words. - August Strindberg

[chiggerbit]

http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/ ... m-are.html


"Inauguration attack? NONE OF THEM ARE INNOCENT

I have received a ton of e-mails about my dreaming of potential methods for attacking the upcoming presidential inauguration. Most tell me how easily such efforts can be defeated while others scream about "killing innocent people." Lets set the record straight: With regard to anyone attending the inauguration, none of them are innocent.

What we will have in Washington, DC this coming Tuesday is the biggest collection of lying, thieving, conniving political scum on the face of the earth, elected by some of the dumbest voters ever to plague a country, attempting to take part in the most blatant usurpation of the US Constitution in the history of our republic.

Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen and thus is ineligible to be president. Yet no member of The House of Representatives, no member of The Senate, no member of the Supreme Court, no member of the outgoing administration and no member of law enforcement agency is raising even one finger to "support and defend the Constitution" from this blatant usurpation. As such, they are ALL guilty.

That covers the government and law enforcement, now let's talk about the crowd: The faces you will see in the inaugural crowd will look like a scene from planet of the apes. To the average American viewer, there will not be a single more powerful image that I or anyone else could offer to show just how different and completely inferior, they truly are.

Intermixed in the huddled mass of sub-human simians, will be mentally-ill Whites who call themselves Liberals and who think it ever so grand that the first black president will be sworn in. Wiping out these two segments of the population (sub-humans and mentally-ill liberal whites) would be a public service!

I won't say what may happen Tuesday but I will say this: After Tuesday, the name Hal Turner may live in infamy.

Let it be known that I saw what was necessary and decided to do what had to be done. I make no apology to those affected or to their families.

You chose to go to Washington, DC. You chose to participate in the usurpation of the Constitution. You deserve whatever you get."


Posted by HalTurnerShow.com at 1/16/2009 09:43:00 PM

[brekin]

Grief is the agony of an instant, the indulgence of grief the blunder of a life.
Benjamin Disraeli

As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the best information.
Benjamin Disraeli

He was one of those men who think that the world can be saved by writing a pamphlet.
Benjamin Disraeli

I repeat...that all power is a trust; that we are accountable for its exercise; that from the people, and for the people all springs, and all must exist.
Benjamin Disraeli

Never apologize for showing feeling. When you do so, you apologize for truth.
Benjamin Disraeli

Individuals may form communities, but it is institutions alone that can create a nation.
Benjamin Disraeli

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Benjamin Disraeli

To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge.
Benjamin Disraeli

Action may not always bring happiness; but there is no happiness without action.
Benjamin Disraeli

For you see, the world is governed by very different personages
from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.
Benjamin Disraeli

[monster]

Your work on atmospheric chlorofluorocarbons led eventually to a global CFC ban that saved us from ozone-layer depletion. Do we have time to do a similar thing with carbon emissions to save ourselves from climate change?

Not a hope in hell. Most of the "green" stuff is verging on a gigantic scam. Carbon trading, with its huge government subsidies, is just what finance and industry wanted. It's not going to do a damn thing about climate change, but it'll make a lot of money for a lot of people and postpone the moment of reckoning.

Link

[Jeff]

Irony was now out.

Naiveté, translated into "hope," was now in.

Innocence, even when it looked like ignorance, was now prized.

Partisanship could now be appropriately expressed by consumerism.

I couldn't count the number of snapshots I got e-mailed showing people's babies dressed in Obama gear.

I couldn't count the number of times I heard the words "transformational" or "inspirational," or heard the 1960s evoked by people with no apparent memory that what drove the social revolution of the 1960s was not babies in cute T-shirts but the kind of resistance to that decade's war that in the case of our current wars, unmotivated by a draft, we have yet to see. It became increasingly clear that we were gearing up for another close encounter with militant idealism—by which I mean the convenient but dangerous redefinition of political or pragmatic questions as moral questions—"convenient" because such redefinition makes those questions seem easier to answer, "dangerous" because this was a time when the nation was least prepared to afford easy answers.

Some who were troubled by this redefinition referred to those who remained untroubled by a code phrase. This phrase, which referred back to a previous encounter with militant idealism, the one that ended at the Jonestown encampment in Guyana in 1978, was "drinking the Kool-Aid."

No one ever suggested that the candidate himself was drinking the Kool-Aid—if there had been any doubt about this, his initial appointments laid them to rest.... Yet. The expectations got fueled. The spirit of a cargo cult was loose in the land. I heard it said breathlessly on one channel that the United States, on the basis of having carried off this presidential election, now had "the congratulations of all the nations." "They want to be with us," another commentator said. Imagining in 2008 that all the world's people wanted to be with us did not seem entirely different in kind from imagining in 2003 that we would be greeted with flowers when we invaded Iraq, but in the irony-free zone that the nation had chosen to become, this was not the preferred way of looking at it.

Joan Didion

[chiggerbit]

http://www.nationalinterest.org/Article.aspx?id=13244

"....As far as U.S. polices are concerned and the aftermath of the Baker-Hamilton report, what is needed is a change in the approach of the U.S. towards Iran, towards Iraq, and towards the region. What has brought all these miseries to the region is that the U.S. has dealt with the region based on wrong perceptions and a totally erroneous approach. The U.S. must come to realize that other countries have interests, have concerns, have anxieties. The U.S. must deal with these anxieties, concerns and interests, and not be concerned with only its own. Of course any country in any situation will try to maximize its national interest. That’s a given. But, you have to address any situation based on a recognition that the other side also has these similar national interests.

If you deal with the other side as less than a human society, then don’t expect to have multiple outcomes. What I’m saying is that in Western terminology, concepts are used that would infuriate the other sides. Even the terminologies used by the United States in the liberal realist tradition—such as “carrot and stick”—are not meant for humans, but rather for donkeys. In studies of Orientalism, the Eastern part of the world is dealt with as an object rather than as serious, real human societies with longer, older civilizations with concerns and needs that have to be dealt with......"

~Iran’s UN Ambassador Javad Zarif, 12, 2006

[monster]

Or we could view the threats and challenges we face today as the difficult birth-pangs of a new global order - and our task now as nothing less than making the transition through a new internationalism to the benefits of an expanding global society - not muddling through as pessimists but making the necessary adjustment to a better future and setting the new rules for this new global order."

Gordon Brown

[Jeff]

"Swearing destroys man's greatest invention - language. It is an insult to the soul and a murderous offence against grace. But so is any use of words without proper consideration. For to speak implies to consider and define. Words involve a decision between life and death."

...

My friend Ernst Lederer wrote poems in especially bright blue ink on engraved sheets of hand-made paper.

I told Kafka about it.

He said, "That is quite right. Every magician has his own rites. Haydn for example only composed in a ceremonially powdered wig. Writing is, after all, a kind of invocation of spirits."

Conversations with Kafka

[marmot]

What is Beauty?

For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror,
which we still are just able to endure, and we are
so awed because it serenely disdains to annihilate us.
~Rilke Duino Elegies

There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness
in the proportion.
~Francis Bacon Of Beauty

Where is beauty?
Where I must will with all my will,
where I want to love and perish
that an image may not remain a mere image.
~Nietzsche Zarathustra

We live only to discover beauty.
All else is a form of waiting.
~Kahlil Gibran

The soul that sees beauty may sometimes walk alone.
~Goethe

And when we see Him, there is no beauty
that we should desire Him.
~Isaiah

Beauty is a world betrayed.
~Milan Kundera The Unbearable Lightness of Being

What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.
~Tolstoy

Beauty will save the world.
~Fyodor Dostoevsky

Beauty and sadness always go together.
Nature thought beauty too rich to go forth
Upon the earth without a meet alloy.
~George MacDonald

In beauty it is finished!
~the central theme of Laughing Boy