What are you listening to right now?

[justdrew]

[AhabsOtherLeg]

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I WAS A MAOIST INTELLECTUAL IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
(Have to click Play at the link, sorry):

http://blip.fm/listen/Momus::I+Was+A+Ma ... tellectual

this guy?


fuck. how have I not heard of this before? not even the god... thanks

That's the very man. As you'd expect, a lot of his songs are "troublesome" in one way or another - in terms of political correctness, or general presentation - I suppose you could say he's Chaotic/Good in terms of alignment, with bits of Lawful/Evil thrown in.

I'd recommend "The Seventh Wife of Henry of the Eighth" and "The Homosexual" as good starters on his work.

BTW, that song about the JFK blood ritual, even if it wasn't actually about that, was fucking astonishing, and I'll be forcing folk to hear it for some time to come...

...looks very interesting! His 1999 "The Little Red Songbook"... reminds me of this little red book...

Ah... memories. This was the second band I ever saw live... They were old men by then, of course, but Jesus - a well-oiled entertainment machine, with soul to spare:

[justdrew]

BTW, that song about the JFK blood ritual, even if it wasn't actually about that, was fucking astonishing, and I'll be forcing folk to hear it for some time to come...

oh it is. in his spoken into to it, on the one album you need if no other, "There and Now - Live in Vancouver 1968" he says so.

what I have to consider an unreliable source has the legend that he ran into RFK on a plane and performed a solo version at request. maybe it's true, I'm not sure.



"a song about the mystical process that took the life of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King"



and one more long one

[AhabsOtherLeg]

I was wondering where I'd first read about Phil Ochs, and his eventual FBI-driven decline. I was thinking it was in "The Kennedys" by Peter Collier and David Horowitz, which, to my shame, is the only book I have on them at the moment, and the one I most often reread. It's probably because I've read that book, and have formed my ideas from it (such as they are) that I don't really see JFK as an angelic or messianic or saviour figure, or as a sacrifice, as such. He seems to have been only half-decent to me (like a human, in fact) so the crucifixion imagery in the song and vid is a bit jarring.

That imagery seems more fitting to Phil Ochs himself. That was a man who renounced his imminent fame and fortune, and gave himself up wholly to be destroyed.

Sorry for more Corries, but I like The Corries.

[justdrew]

well, yeah, the video, I don't know, it's the only full version, I should make something better I guess, but given what I've seen all these years this life, "half-decent" would be a godsent gift. His policies were often imperfect, but read some of those speeches and look at the spirit he evoked in so many. Not perfection, but a step in the right direction at least.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

well, yeah, the video, I don't know, it's the only full version, I should make something better I guess, but given what I've seen all these years this life, "half-decent" would be a godsent gift. His policies were often imperfect, but read some of those speeches and look at the spirit he evoked in so many. Not perfection, but a step in the right direction at least.

Aye, and even a step was too far. One single step taken towards a better world was considered so far outwith the line that they felt obligated (and justified) in killing him, regardless of the office and the power he held.

Don't get me wrong. I admire the man a lot - I even admire Bobby - and I have no business criticising other folk's personal lives or politics anyway, and far less business criticising their music videos. If you made that video then I apologise. It wasn't the imagery that bothered me, but the symbolism. I just can't put JFK alongside Christ.

You're right, though. These days, a half-decent man would qualify as a Saint... and rightly so, I suppose.

It's not easy, these days, being a half-decent man. I've never managed it.

Check out the 7th member of The Pogues, and put a smile on yer face:

[justdrew]

no, I didn't make that video, didn't even look at it, just listened. I hope I wouldn't be so obvious as to use jesus iconography in a song titled crucifixion.

great album

all the original albums have been released remastered with lots of bonus tracks. and something really special, the five disk set, "Just Look Them Straight In The Eye And Say Poguemahone" - which has quite a few tracks I'd not heard before on it.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

no, I didn't make that video, didn't even look at it, just listened. I hope I wouldn't be so obvious as to use jesus iconography in a song titled crucifixion.

great album

all the original albums have been released remastered with lots of bonus tracks. and something really special, the five disk set, "Just Look Them Straight In The Eye And Say Poguemahone" - which has quite a few tracks I'd not heard before on it...

Well, I learn sumfing new every day*, and am glad to hear of it**. Cheers Justdrew.***

*I posted the Spancil Hill vid on here before you, a long time ago, so how do you like that? Eh? Eh, son? How'd you like them apples?

**But I think you posted The Pogues' version of "Danny Boy" sometime before I did, so I suppose we're equal.

***Cheers mate!

Have you seen The Great Hunger, the docu about Shane? If you haven't, you must. I insist. It's good.
I can post Part 1 here without harming the thread, 'cos it's more or less a song:

[AhabsOtherLeg]

This one's about Shane, I reckon, in his younger days.



About men in general, I suppose. Poor Kirsty.

She was good.

[justdrew]

Have you seen The Great Hunger, the docu about Shane? If you haven't, you must. I insist. It's good.

hmmm, I've seen "Fall from Grace - The Shane MacGowan Story"

well, looks like "the Great Hunger" is still rattling about in the magic box from which springs so many of the British videos I get to see will check it out.

[Project Willow]

[justdrew]

great choice PW! We Five made one of the best albums out of SF in '65 (a bit before my time, but still), I actually have the vinyl for the album.

here's a color (reunion!) version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ie-Dz4LbM

I wish there were videos for at least
"Love Me Not Tomorrow", "Somewhere Beyond The Sea", "Cast Your Fate To The Winds", "I Got Plenty O Nuttin" and "I Can Never Go Home Again"

maybe someday I'll find time to address youtube's lack in that department.

now I'm off to listen to some Seekers and We Five for a gentle morning after last evening beer fueled reveries


Nick Cave does a nice version of that song too

[Project Willow]

You have the vinyl?? Cool! I loved that record so much that when I was 5 years old I took it to my kindergarten class and then sang to it (until I was cut off by the teacher.)

[justdrew]

You have the vinyl?? Cool! I loved that record so much that when I was 5 years old I took it to my kindergarten class and then sang to it (until I was cut off by the teacher.)

I bet it was an excellent performance

another band from SF along similar lines you might like, this song in particular is a fav of mine... it's all in a bit of a revival under the rubric "sunshine pop"


it's on the Midnight Cowboy OST and their one album.

[Project Willow]

^^Thanks justdrew. Those are new to me.

Here's a '60s revival band from the '80s