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Postby justdrew » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:50 am

Quote of the Day:

Can you imagine if we had restrictions of speech, or the surveillance state, 400 years ago? We wouldn't have had the Reformation, or the Enlightenment, or the scientific revolution. Those would have been stopped – and we're having other kinds of revolutions now.

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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby justdrew » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:12 am

Dr. Ben Carson:
“If you ask me for an apple and I give you an orange you would say, well that’s not an orange,” Carson said. “And then I say, that’s a banana, that’s not an apple either. And there’s a peach, that’s not an apple, either. But it doesn’t mean that I’m equating the banana and the orange and the peach. And in the same way I’m not equating those things.”


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I would swear this is not the first time I've seen this apples/oranges double talk used
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Elihu » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:41 pm

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
The fate of the country does not depend on how you vote at the polls -- the worst man is as strong as the best at that game; it does not depend on what kind of paper you drop into the ballot-box once a year, but on what kind of man you drop from your chamber into the street every morning.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
If a thousand men were not to pay their tax-bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood. This is, in fact, the definition of a peaceable revolution, if any such is possible.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
That man is richest whose pleasures are cheapest.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Somehow strangely the vice of men gets well represented and protected but their virtue has none to plead its cause -- nor any charter of immunities and rights.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Unjust laws exist: shall we be content to obey them, or shall we endeavor to amend them, and obey them until we have succeeded, or shall we transgress them at once?

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Others -- as most legislators, politicians, lawyers, ministers, and office-holders -- serve the state chiefly with their heads; and, as they rarely make any moral distinctions, they are as likely to serve the devil, without intending it, as God. A very few -- as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men -- serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part ...

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison ... the only house in a slave State in which a free man can abide with honor.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
I heartily accept the motto, 'That government is best which governs least'; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe -- 'That government is best which governs not at all'; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which the will have.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Trade and commerce, if they were not made of Indian rubber, would never manage to bounce over the obstacles which legislators are continually putting in their way.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Let us settle ourselves, and work and wedge our feet downward through the mud and slush of opinion, and prejudice and tradition, and delusion, and appearance, that alluvion which covers the globe... till we come to the hard bottom of rocks in place, which we can call reality.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Things do not change, we change.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Wherever you may seek solitude, men will ferret you out and compel you to belong to their desperate company of oddfellows.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
To speak practically and as a citizen, unlike those who call themselves no-government men, I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government. Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that will be one step toward obtaining it. After all, the practical reason why, when the power is once in the hands of the people, a majority are permitted, and for a long period continue, to rule, is not because they are most likely to be in the right, nor because this seems fairest to the minority, but because they are physically the strongest. But a government in which the majority rule in all cases cannot be based on justice, even as far as men understand it. Can there not be a government in which majorities do not virtually decide right and wrong, but conscience? -- in which majorities decide only those questions to which the rule of expediency is applicable? Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience, then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right. It is truly enough said that a corporation has no conscience; but a corporation of conscientious men is a corporation with a conscience. Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the law free.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men. When the majority shall at length vote for the abolition of slavery, it will be because they are indifferent to slavery, or because there is but little slavery left to be abolished by their vote. They will then be the only slaves. Only his vote can hasten the abolition of slavery who asserts his own freedom by his vote.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
To be awake is to be alive.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
Gardening is civil and social, but it wants the vigor and freedom of the forest and the outlaw.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
I make my own time. I make my own terms. I cannot see how God or Nature can ever get the start of me.

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
What is the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on?

Henry David Thoreau quotes:
The universe seems bankrupt as soon as we begin to discuss the characters of individuals.
But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” John 16:33
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Elihu » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:56 am

"this is no time to go wobbly." -- Margaret Thatcher to George H.W. Bush as the two prepared for the first Gulf war...
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Elihu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:15 pm

"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty." --G.W. Bush: November 10, 2001
But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” John 16:33
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Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:40 pm

"In fact, out-there conspiracy theorizing serves the interests of the powers-that-be by making their real transgressions seem tame in comparison."

— Mother Jones' columnist, David Corn
"The most strongly enforced of all known taboos is the taboo against knowing who or what you really are behind the mask of your apparently separate, independent, and isolated ego."
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Elihu » Tue May 07, 2013 11:47 am

Stopped they must be. On this
all depends. Only a fully trained
Jedi Knight with the Force as his
ally will conquer Vader and his
Emperor. If you end your training
now, if you choose the quick and
easy path, as Vader did, you will
become an agent of evil. - - Yoda
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Simulist » Fri May 17, 2013 7:13 pm

"To walk we have to lean forward, lose our balance, and begin to fall. We let go, constantly, of the previous stability, falling, all the time, trusting that we will find a succession of new stabilities with each step. The fullest living is a constant dying of the past, enjoying the present fully, but holding it lightly; letting go without clinging, and moving freely into new experiences. Our experience of the past and of those dear to us is not lost at all, but remains richly within us."

— Patrick Stewart
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Allegro » Thu May 30, 2013 12:15 pm

Extract from Republic by Plato | XXVIII - Socrates - Glaucon

    And what do the Muses say next?

    When discord arose, then the two races were drawn different ways: the iron and brass fell to acquiring money and land and houses and gold and silver; but the gold and silver races, not wanting money but having the true riches in their own nature, inclined towards virtue and the ancient order of things. There was a battle between them, and at last they agreed to distribute their land and houses among individual owners; and they enslaved their friends and maintainers, whom they had formerly protected in the condition of freemen, and made of them subjects and servants; and they themselves were engaged in war and in keeping a watch against them.

    I believe that you have rightly conceived the origin of the change.

    And the new government which thus arises will be of a form intermediate between oligarchy and aristocracy?

    Very true.

    Such will be the change, and after the change has been made, how will they proceed? Clearly, the new State, being in a mean between oligarchy and the perfect State, will partly follow one and partly the other, and will also have some peculiarities.

    True, he said.

    In the honour given to rulers, in the abstinence of the warrior class from agriculture, handicrafts, and trade in general, in the institution of common meals, and in the attention paid to gymnastics and military training--in all these respects this State will resemble the former.

    True.

    But in the fear of admitting philosophers to power, because they are no longer to be had simple and earnest, but are made up of mixed elements; and in turning from them to passionate and less complex characters, who are by nature fitted for war rather than peace; and in the value set by them upon military stratagems and contrivances, and in the waging of everlasting wars--this State will be for the most part peculiar.

    Yes.

    Yes, I said; and men of this stamp will be covetous of money, like those who live in oligarchies; they will have, a fierce secret longing after gold and silver, which they will hoard in dark places, having magazines and treasuries of their own for the deposit and concealment of them; also castles which are just nests for their eggs, and in which they will spend large sums on their wives, or on any others whom they please.

    That is most true, he said.

    And they are miserly because they have no means of openly acquiring the money which they prize; they will spend that which is another man's on the gratification of their desires, stealing their pleasures and running away like children from the law, their father: they have been schooled not by gentle influences but by force, for they have neglected her who is the true Muse, the companion of reason and philosophy, and have honoured gymnastic more than music.

    Undoubtedly, he said, the form of government which you describe is a mixture of good and evil.

    Why, there is a mixture, I said; but one thing, and one thing only, is predominantly seen,--the spirit of contention and ambition; and these are due to the prevalence of the passionate or spirited element.

    Assuredly, he said.

    Such is the origin and such the character of this State, which has been described in outline only; the more perfect execution was not required, for a sketch is enough to show the type of the most perfectly just and most perfectly unjust; and to go through all the States and all the characters of men, omitting none of them, would be an interminable labour.

    Very true, he replied.

    Now what man answers to this form of government-how did he come into being, and what is he like?
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:33 pm

"I once went down to Neil's (Neil Young) ranch and he rowed me out into the middle of the lake—putting my life in his hands once again. He waved at someone invisible and music started to play, in the countryside. I realized Neil had his house wired as the left speaker, and his barn wired as the right speaker. And Elliot Mazer, his engineer, said 'How is it?' And Neil shouted back...'More Barn!'"

~ Graham Nash
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Burnt Hill » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:06 am

^ Allegro also posted that quote - "More barn!" - in the pictures thread.
Its worth a look.
Nice sync.
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby Allegro » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:16 am

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Postby Allegro » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:09 am

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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby hanshan » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:49 am

...

“If you ever had a business project and you’re wondering whatever happened to it,
it’s probably because the other guy is dead,”



reference (5th paragraph from bottom)
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32959&p=511851#p511851

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Re: Quote Only Thread

Postby chump » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:43 pm

Hate the world that strikes you down,
A warped lesson quickly learned,
Rebellion, a universal sound,
Nobody cares ... No one's concerned.

Fatigued by unyielding strife
Self-pity consoles the abused,
And the bludgeoning of daily life
Leaves a gentle mind ... confused.``

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