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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Nor 'mulitcultural Nazis.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I agree.<br><br>Signed,<br><br>Louis Farrakhan <p></p><i></i>

I think HuMW said "doctrinal"...DE <p></p><i></i>

main prob with disussing fact that fascism is male domination cult is fear of alienating men.<br>please take it as read that we do know that abusers can be m or f<br>but the roots of the prob go deep into human psyche and our past - desire to establish control over female power (reproduction) and harness it for own purposes. that's why its a male domination cult. <br><br>and yes havanagilla - the unacceptable choice is one of the key techniques used to break down victims. <br> <p></p><i></i>

It's not a oxymoron to say that a woman can be misogynist. There are lots of angry, vocal, powerful women in hate communities who INSIST on the natural supremacy of male power - while their own lives, their own personalities, suggest otherwise!<br><br>Patriarchy isn't located "within" men - it is a social structure that everyone, male and female, exists in relation to. At a population level, the benefits of patriarchy are more likely to be distributed to men, but on an individual, psychological level, women can find as much "meaning" (false/destructive/ridiculous as it is) in patriarchy as any other sexist pig. <p></p><i></i>

Biao, I agree wholeheartedly with your well-written comment. I would add that there are some women who actually hate their own sex -- it's not just that they believe in the natural superiority of men. <br><br>Not all men are evil, and not all women are saints. <p></p><i></i>

I agree with biao analysis of patriarchy - except for the detail of how its promulgated, the details of everyday lives, not the exceptional life choices of a few. the judgementalism directed at women, particularly and inappropriately, at women victims, which effects all of us all of the time, is too rarely challenged by men. I don't know what a world which was a matriarchy would look like. I suspect that its power which human beings can't handle. <p></p><i></i>

Here's an intensely creepy new manifestation of patriarchy at its most blatant. The Father-Daughter Purity Ball has daddies in tuxes and little girls in evening gowns. The daughter (some of whom look to be maybe 6 or 7) reads from a pledge card:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I pledge to remain sexually pure...until the day I give myself as a wedding gift to my husband. ... I know that God requires this of me.. that he loves me. and that he will reward me for my faithfulness.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>then Daddy reads from his card:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I, (daughter’s name)’s father, choose before God to cover my daughter as her authority and protection in the area of purity. I will be pure in my own life as a man, husband and father. I will be a man of integrity and accountability as I lead, guide and pray over my daughter and as the high priest in my home. This covering will be used by God to influence generations to come. </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_digbysblog_archive.html#114537999061146139">www.digbysblog.blogspot.c...9061146139</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Cover" in fundamentalist sense seems to indicate having dominion over. But in this context I'm reminded too much of the use of "cover" to mean what a stallion does with a mare who is in heat.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_breeding">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_breeding</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"High priest,"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> eh?<br><br>Check out the contest winners of "daughters are ... Angels With Attitude," for that special JonBenet feeling:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.apostropher.com/cache/angelswithattitudes.htm">www.apostropher.com/cache...itudes.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Stomach-turning.<br> <p></p><i></i>

Avalon, this is beyond Jonbenet...the images of those little toy sex dolls. They literally do not look human; they look like expensive dolls. THE EYES! It's not just make up these little ones are wearing, almost every one of them have the same eyes. Is it drugs or torture,or is this what? I've lived with disassociative-disordered kids, and ones with no conscience, I'm still no expert, but I have never seen eyes like those "winners". Have the photos been altered, maybe? Do they put some type of drops in the girls' eyes for the photo shoot? These little angels have angels with intelligent evil running the show. <p></p><i></i>

Definitely creepy. <br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.apostropher.com/cache/angelswithattitudes_files/5.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>What I'm trying to figure out is why is it part of a blog for a seemingly liberal, irreverent and at times rather tacky blog? Did he grab the images to illustrate one of his entries? I assume that to be the case but I don't find an original story.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.apostropher.com/blog/">www.apostropher.com/blog/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>The original site for the "angels" contest seems to be down.<br><br>Weirder still, the domain name of the site, "angelswithattitudes" went on sale, with starting bid of Five Thousand Dollars and this little tag:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>This can be a good website for Entertainment purpose. I can let you use the graphics from this website.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>        <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.domainsaleworld.com/detail.php?siteid=783">www.domainsaleworld.com/detail.php?siteid=783</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Avalon, this is beyond Jonbenet...the images of those little toy sex dolls. They literally do not look human; they look like expensive dolls.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Jonbenet Ramsey is dead, so I'd say that this stuff is just more of the usual symptoms indicating an underlying, multifaceted social problem that often turns criminal.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Have the photos been altered, maybe? Do they put some type of drops in the girls' eyes for the photo shoot?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>I don't know what you're talking about, specifically, but from what I saw it just looked like standard effects seen in most studio photography.<br><br>Thinking about how deeply these issues run within the culture is truly frightening. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/20/06 8:13 am<br></i>

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>What I'm trying to figure out is why is it part of a blog for a seemingly liberal, irreverent and at times rather tacky blog? Did he grab the images to illustrate one of his entries? I assume that to be the case but I don't find an original story.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.apostropher.com/blog/archives/002574.html">Here's the original entry</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, from last summer. <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Avalon, this is beyond Jonbenet...the images of those little toy sex dolls. They literally do not look human; they look like expensive dolls. THE EYES! It's not just make up these little ones are wearing, almost every one of them have the same eyes. Is it drugs or torture,or is this what? I've lived with disassociative-disordered kids, and ones with no conscience, I'm still no expert, but I have never seen eyes like those "winners". Have the photos been altered, maybe? Do they put some type of drops in the girls' eyes for the photo shoot? These little angels have angels with intelligent evil running the show.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The girls' eyes are Photoshopped. The photos are not realistic representations. <p></p><i></i>

why is that child made to look like that? <p></p><i></i>

Why? Because some people find it attractive or cute. I certainly don't.<br><br>I saw these photos posted somewhere else a while back, but can't find the link now. Essentially, they were examples of glamour shots for child models.<br><br>Creepy, yes. But creepy is a subjective term. <p></p><i></i>

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