Anderson Cooper "Exposing" Newtown Conspiracy Theory 1/11/13

[conniption]

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In case you missed this...


January 11th, 2013
11:27 PM ET
KTH: Exposing Newtown conspiracy theory

Some people are actually claiming the Newtown school shooting was staged by the government and media who are in support of stricter gun control laws. One of those individuals is James Tracy, a tenured associate professor at a Florida university. Anderson Cooper is Keeping Them Honest.


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The signal-to-noise ratio on the web surrounding Sandy Hook is going to make it even more difficult to hold your head up if you happen to be a Conspiracy Theorist - never mind uncovering the actual facts of this horrific incident.

For all the things we don't know about this case, Mr. Cooper, there's one thing we do know for sure...you lie. You and all of the other scumbag MSM whores, and that's too bad.

Sorry.
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[bks]

I know this man. Very nice person and fairly sharp. Also, by RI standards, pretty careful about appearing "nutty" IIRC. Met him last summer at a media conference and liked him right away. Remember exchanging emails with him afterwards.

Will investigate further, time permitting.

Is Anderson Cooper the CIA agent, WRex?

Cooper never learns, because he's paid to have no memory. Remember this mea culpa, you silved-haired scold? Of course you don't. (Still haven't learned to embed videos! Gah. And after so many nice people showing me how. I promise this will be the time!)




For the record: not saying there's any merit to anything he's saying.

Vid embedded by Dazzling.

[beeblebrox]

James Tracy: "Perhaps we, as a society, have been conditioned to be duped."

No way, not my society.

It always irritates me to witness the phony incredulity displayed by one of these MSM assholes when someone suggests the government is capable of killing its own citizens to achieve some political or military objective. Fucking tools.

[JackRiddler]

I hope you don't take offense conniption, but if you're identifying yourself as a capital-C, capital-T Conspiracy Theorist, then They (more accurately: It) have got you more firmly in their grip than they do the average denialist liberal. You are accepting the reductive category that people hostile to non-official truths have fashioned for you.

And if Tracy with his poison-pill material is getting on Cooper right after Alex Jones got a huge launch platform to become the Face of American Gun Ownership thanks to Piers Morgan, then you know it's the week wherein CNN trots out the most clownish set-up "CTs" as targets. It's a long-standing, win-win, symbiotic relationship. The clowns get publicity and are reinforced as "leaders." The corporate media gets ideal targets for the two minutes' hate. In everyday interaction, conventional thinkers can hang the clowns as albatrosses on anyone who questions any official story, even if there is no association.

[barracuda]

In a way, this is yet another signpost that The Strange Case of The Hand-Me-Down Dress is a massively stupid red herring. If it wasn't, Anderson Cooper wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the thing.

"This game is simple, and is played with marbles. One player holds in his hand a number of these toys, and demands of another whether that number is even or odd. If the guess is right, the guesser wins one; if wrong, he loses one. The boy to whom I allude won all the marbles of the school. Of course he had some principle of guessing; and this lay in mere observation and admeasurement of the astuteness of his opponents. For example, an arrant simpleton is his opponent, and, holding up his closed hand, asks, 'are they even or odd?' Our schoolboy replies, 'odd,' and loses; but upon the second trial he wins, for he then says to himself, the simpleton had them even upon the first trial, and his amount of cunning is just sufficient to make him have them odd upon the second; I will therefore guess odd'; --he guesses odd, and wins. Now, with a simpleton a degree above the first, he would have reasoned thus: 'This fellow finds that in the first instance I guessed odd, and, in the second, he will propose to himself upon the first impulse, a simple variation from even to odd, as did the first simpleton; but then a second thought will suggest that this is too simple a variation, and finally he will decide upon putting it even as before. I will therefore guess even' guesses even, and wins. Now this mode of reasoning in the schoolboy, whom his fellows termed "lucky," --what, in its last analysis, is it?"

"It is merely," I said, "an identification of the reasoner's intellect with that of his opponent."

[compared2what?]

The guy routinely makes blatantly false statements that he couldn't possibly not know are problematic unless he literally doesn't know what the hell he's saying, to the point that he rarely gets through a paragraph without doing so. For example:

Inconsistencies and anomalies abound when one turns an analytical eye to news of the Newtown school massacre. The public’s general acceptance of the event’s validity and faith in its resolution suggests a deepened credulousness borne from a world where almost all news and information is electronically mediated and controlled. The condition is reinforced through the corporate media’s unwillingness to push hard questions vis-à-vis Connecticut and federal authorities who together bottlenecked information while invoking prior restraint through threats of prosecutorial action against journalists and the broader citizenry seeking to interpret the event on social media.

There's no prior restraint. And that Tracy's unrestrained invocation of it is the only one out there attests to it. There also haven't been any threats of prosecution by state or federal authorities against anyone for having sought to interpret the event anywhere. None. Zero. Not any.

Those aren't niggling little details. Most people regard senseless, untrue and self-contradicting statements as discreditable to the argument in the service of which they're being made. And that's not because of the tyranny of consensus. It's because they really are discreditable.

I mean, come on. There's no right to speech that's exempt from fair criticism. Disagreement on grounds you can't honestly contest is not censorship. And there's a difference between failing to make a good case for what you're saying and the suppression of it.

I'm not even sorry to be the bad cop on this, if that's what I am. Overlooking it helps no one.

[DrVolin]

The hand me down dress story is on precisely the same model as the no plane at the pentagon story, and serves the same purpose.

[beeblebrox]

In a way, this is yet another signpost that The Strange Case of The Hand-Me-Down Dress is a massively stupid red herring. If it wasn't, Anderson Cooper wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the thing.

"This game is simple, and is played with marbles. One player holds in his hand a number of these toys, and demands of another whether that number is even or odd. If the guess is right, the guesser wins one; if wrong, he loses one. The boy to whom I allude won all the marbles of the school. Of course he had some principle of guessing; and this lay in mere observation and admeasurement of the astuteness of his opponents. For example, an arrant simpleton is his opponent, and, holding up his closed hand, asks, 'are they even or odd?' Our schoolboy replies, 'odd,' and loses; but upon the second trial he wins, for he then says to himself, the simpleton had them even upon the first trial, and his amount of cunning is just sufficient to make him have them odd upon the second; I will therefore guess odd'; --he guesses odd, and wins. Now, with a simpleton a degree above the first, he would have reasoned thus: 'This fellow finds that in the first instance I guessed odd, and, in the second, he will propose to himself upon the first impulse, a simple variation from even to odd, as did the first simpleton; but then a second thought will suggest that this is too simple a variation, and finally he will decide upon putting it even as before. I will therefore guess even' guesses even, and wins. Now this mode of reasoning in the schoolboy, whom his fellows termed "lucky," --what, in its last analysis, is it?"

"It is merely," I said, "an identification of the reasoner's intellect with that of his opponent."

[compared2what?]

In a way, this is yet another signpost that The Strange Case of The Hand-Me-Down Dress is a massively stupid red herring. If it wasn't, Anderson Cooper wouldn't be allowed anywhere near the thing.

He might not be the sharpest tack. But I've always thought of his Katrina reportage as an indication that he actually probably couldn't participate in a cruel and ugly charade if he saw that's what it was.

I mean, a lot of people were doing that. And everybody might never have done anything else if he hadn't.

I know that's not everything. Far from it, But it's not nothing either.

[bks]

But I've always thought of his Katrina reportage as an indication that he actually probably couldn't participate in a cruel and ugly charade if he saw that's what it was.

I mean, a lot of people were doing that. And everybody might never have done anything else if he hadn't.

I know that's not everything. Far from it, But it's not nothing either.

OK, but then he limits his understanding of cruel and ugly participation to individual events, rather than participation within a system. Because he's fine with that, despite being as ignorant and gullible as most of his fellow travelers. To his credit, he will say when he's been duped under certain circumstances (the Tillman case comes to mind).

And yeah, Jim's suspicions on Sandy Hook look pretty weak.

[8bitagent]

Just like the crazy Loose Change/no plane shit, it's the WTF crap that makes it on cable news regarding questioning events(notice they NEVER had Nafeez Ahmed, Kevin Fenton, Paul Thompson, etc on cable news networks...they never made a 2 hour cable documentary debunking Press for Truth)

Ben Swann's Reality Check has been covering Aurora and Sandy Hook, but it's regarding eye witness reports of mysterious phone calls and other anomalies, as well as ties to major financial fraud reports.
This "Sandy Hook was a hoax, noone died" BULLSHIT, which could not get any more offensive and sickening, has spread like wild fire. I dont mind the "are these shootings black ops" questioning, but this stuff is on a whole other level of stupid...like Loose Change stupid.

[wetland]

Many very young sisters have matching dresses in their wardrobes, often purchased for the annual family photo or other special occasion.

[beeblebrox]

Just like the crazy Loose Change/no plane shit, it's the WTF crap that makes it on cable news regarding questioning events(notice they NEVER had Nafeez Ahmed, Kevin Fenton, Paul Thompson, etc on cable news networks...they never made a 2 hour cable documentary debunking Press for Truth)

Ben Swann's Reality Check has been covering Aurora and Sandy Hook, but it's regarding eye witness reports of mysterious phone calls and other anomalies, as well as ties to major financial fraud reports.
This "Sandy Hook was a hoax, noone died" BULLSHIT, which could not get any more offensive and sickening, has spread like wild fire. I dont mind the "are these shootings black ops" questioning, but this stuff is on a whole other level of stupid...like Loose Change stupid.

If this is in any way directed at me, my comments were meant as a criticism of Cooper, not a defense of Tracy.

Maybe James Tracy's theory is ridiculous, at the very least it was foolish to state it publicly, but I understand why wild speculation like this happens. A lot of people don't trust a word the government, or the media, says. So I don't find it all that shocking or scandalous when people try to fit the pieces of the puzzle together on their own.

[divideandconquer]

He might not be the sharpest tack. But I've always thought of his Katrina reportage as an indication that he actually probably couldn't participate in a cruel and ugly charade if he saw that's what it was..

I don't know...Cooper, after all, is a Vanderbilt with a CIA background. I think his coverage of Katrina served to gain the trust of the people. Before I lost all trust in the mainstream, I remember reading that Anderson Cooper took all of his vacations in third world countries...that he was always working. I have to admit, at the time, that impressed me. I also remember when the president at CNN made Cooper his personal pet project, just short of a decade ago.

There is no doubt that Cooper was groomed to rise in the ranks of mainstream "journalists".

[8bitagent]

Just like the crazy Loose Change/no plane shit, it's the WTF crap that makes it on cable news regarding questioning events(notice they NEVER had Nafeez Ahmed, Kevin Fenton, Paul Thompson, etc on cable news networks...they never made a 2 hour cable documentary debunking Press for Truth)

Ben Swann's Reality Check has been covering Aurora and Sandy Hook, but it's regarding eye witness reports of mysterious phone calls and other anomalies, as well as ties to major financial fraud reports.
This "Sandy Hook was a hoax, noone died" BULLSHIT, which could not get any more offensive and sickening, has spread like wild fire. I dont mind the "are these shootings black ops" questioning, but this stuff is on a whole other level of stupid...like Loose Change stupid.

If this is in any way directed at me, my comments were meant as a criticism of Cooper, not a defense of Tracy.

Maybe James Tracy's theory is ridiculous, at the very least it was foolish to state it publicly, but I understand why wild speculation like this happens. A lot of people don't trust a word the government, or the media, says. So I don't find it all that shocking or scandalous when people try to fit the pieces of the puzzle together on their own.

Oh goodness no, I didnt read anyones replies. Just reacting to the Cooper segment. As well to the mass popularity of the "Sandy Hook hoax" meme on youtube. Im just saying, I'd be willing to bet a billion dollars those 20 kids really did die. Was it a "black op"? Certainly could be. But I was reacting to how people are questioning not who was responsible, but if it actually occurred. It may not have happened according to reports, as we know those are always full of errors(how many "facts" turned out to be wrong or outright false with Sandy Hook?) but I just take issue with people claiming kids and teachers didnt die is all.