Cops telling protesters how they should protest?

[Grizzly]

Thought this would be interesting to run it through the RI filter..

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/commen ... tests_and/

As a cop that worked the May Day protests (and many others) I have the following recommendations: (self.politics)

submitted 7 hours ago by CopThought

I’ve had that opportunity to speak with dozens of protesters this past year from Occupy and similar movements. I’ve also spoken with many more store owners, residents and people working in the area. I keep hearing these two things from the public:

I agree with the protesters but they are acting juvenile.
What specifically do they want?

Now I understand the majority of the time it isn’t the protesters causing the violence and crime; however, the protesters are being used as cover and human shields. We the Police can’t safely move through crowds to arrest these few trouble makers and have to address the entire group.

ADVICE Appearance:

Sunday best. It’s what worked for the union movements, Woman’s Suffrage and the Civil Rights Movement.

Refuse to be cover for those who would sully the message of your cause.

Get a permit! It is easy and get’s the public/Police on your side.

Message: The rest of the public seems to think the Occupy movement lacks specific goals/demands. Here are a few I think would be popular:

Federal bill stating a maximum 4% interest rate on student loans

A bill legalizing Marijuana with a 20% federal tax in addition to state taxes

A bill stating “Corporations are not people. Money is not speech.”

End super pacs

These are just my thoughts and aren’t meant to be insulting or condescending.

inferring that he is merely a good guy, acting autonomously, with good intentions, and a dress code? Aside from my immediate visceral reaction, which is fuck him and his gang, is this cognitive infiltration? Experience has me on maximum guard, as I know Reddit and many, many other sites have been victims of cognitive infiltration...

http://www.disinfo.com/2012/05/cognitiv ... ted-video/

[fruhmenschen]

for the uneducated and the uneducable

high school dropout can't find work so he joins the Marines to Semper Fi
and collect some money.
High school dropout is sent to Paris Island to be all he can be. He is trained to kill women and children and a occasional freedom fighter trying to protect his wife from being raped by Mr Semper Fi.
High school dropout ships out to invade Iraq for USEmpire and US oil companies.
American oil companies are struggling with the problem of Peak Oil.
Peak oil means we no longer have a infinite supply of oil.Maybe you saw the documentary film END OF SUBURBIA see
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/previews.htm

high school drop out didn't because his high school teachers were too busy DUMBING him down
see
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/bookstor ... nblum1.htm

High School dropout manages to kill a couple hundred women and children while throwing in a occasional rape. Mr Sempi Fi has now been transformed into Mr serial killer.
Mr high school dropout/serial killer now begins to experience extreme depression from his actions. Mental Wealth workers call it Post Traumatic
Stress Syndrome. But the only people who experience traumatic stress in Iraq are the Iraqi women being raped by Semper Fi's before they shot and killed them.
Good thing serial killer/high school dropout has never read the research
of Ian Stevenson MD whose groundbreaking study of 3,000 children who remember previous lives provides the science for the existence of reincarnation. see
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... enson.html

What this means for high school dropout is that he will be coming back
again for another life . Of course so will the people he murdered , so for practical purposes he has another couple hundred lives he has to live getting "wacked" by the life forms he semper fi'd.

The difference this time is the raped and murdered have had some time to ponder while they wait for him to pass over, how they will "do" Mr Semper Fi- the high school drop out serial killer.

Mr high school dropout comes back from Iraq out of work unless he re-enlists. There are not to many job openings for serial killers until he lands a job working with his be all you can be buddies at the local police department or the FBI.

[Marie Laveau]

A good time to pop out the vid of how police protest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St1-WTc1kow

[vogonpoet]

I'm with this particular cop based on the actual words as quoted - in other words, without trying to read between the lines. The advice is actually quite good - with "get a permit" being the weakest point IMHO; there's a time and place for civil disobedience.

[wordspeak2]

That's funny; I participated in this thread.

I agree with Vogonpoet, but further, groups apply for permits all the time and are denied. It's easy to say, "Apply for a permit"; it's harder to actually get one, especially if you're protesting around economic issues. People applied for a permit for NATO in Chicago and were denied. It's become the m.o.

[Nordic]

I think he's saying "if you don't want to end up confronting cops, get a permit". Because if you don't have the permit, it's the cops' job to make you go away or disperse or whatever.

He's got a point -- in Los Angeles, when we're filming, if you get the permit and you hire the cops to help you, they'll do pretty much anything you want. If you don't have a permit, and you're trying to film, they will come in and shut you the hell down, and FAST.

They're good little mercenaries that way.

And stupid. I'm amazed how just dumb so many of them are that we work with.

[wordspeak2]

But, Nordic, when it comes to more serious political protests, esp. ones that are directly challenging to actual financial elites, good luck getting a permit; these days the courts just don't give it to you. That's been the case in every single protest against major globalist institutions since the Seattle '99 WTO protests rocked the world. In these cases it's been very clear which side the po-po is on, even if there are some good cops in there who would rather not be cracking skulls.

[Nordic]

But, Nordic, when it comes to more serious political protests, esp. ones that are directly challenging to actual financial elites, good luck getting a permit; these days the courts just don't give it to you. That's been the case in every single protest against major globalist institutions since the Seattle '99 WTO protests rocked the world. In these cases it's been very clear which side the po-po is on, even if there are some good cops in there who would rather not be cracking skulls.

Oh, I realize that of course. I'm just trying to see it from the cop's point of view, and give him the benefit of the doubt for five seconds before I go back to hating him.