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'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:36 am

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'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory
By Malcolm Moore, in Shanghai
12:04PM GMT 11 Jan 2012

Around 150 Chinese workers at Foxconn, the world's largest electronics manufacturer, threatened to commit suicide by leaping from their factory roof in protest at their working conditions.

The workers were eventually coaxed down after two days on top of their three-floor plant in Wuhan by Foxconn managers and local Chinese Communist party officials.

Foxconn, which manufactures gadgets for the likes of Apple, Sony, Nintendo and HP, among many others, has had a grim history of suicides at its factories. A suicide cluster in 2010 saw 18 workers throw themselves from the tops of the company's buildings, with 14 deaths.

In the aftermath of the suicides, Foxconn installed safety nets in some of its factories and hired counsellors to help its workers.

The latest protest began on January 2 after managers decided to move around 600 workers to a new production line, making computer cases for Acer, a Taiwanese computer company.

"We were put to work without any training, and paid piecemeal," said one of the protesting workers, who asked not to be named. "The assembly line ran very fast and after just one morning we all had blisters and the skin on our hand was black. The factory was also really choked with dust and no one could bear it," he said.

Several reports from inside Foxconn factories have suggested that while the company is more advanced than many of its competitors, it is run in a "military" fashion that many workers cannot cope with. At Foxconn's flagship plant in Longhua, five per cent of its workers, or 24,000 people, quit every month.

"Because we could not cope, we went on strike," said the worker. "It was not about the money but because we felt we had no options. At first, the managers said anyone who wanted to quit could have one month's pay as compensation, but then they withdrew that offer. So we went to the roof and threatened a mass suicide".

The worker said that Foxconn initially refused to negotiate, but that the workers were treated reasonably by the local police and fire service.

A spokesman for Foxconn confirmed the protest, and said that the incident was "successfully and peacefully resolved after discussions between the workers, local Foxconn officials and representatives from the local government".

He added that 45 Foxconn employees had chosen to resign and the remainder had returned to work. "The welfare of our employees is our top priority and we are committed to ensuring that all employees are treated fairly," he said.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Stephen Morgan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:28 pm

Didn't they sign those anti-suidicide contracts? Breach of contract is a serious matter.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:36 pm

Beautifully distilled caricature of my entire generation's fate. I feel like I need to write a song about this despite knowing almost nobody would get it.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:39 pm

Why don't they just give them all free iPhones? Wouldn't that make them happy?
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby crikkett » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:22 am

If you do that, then they'd want personal time to use them and more money to buy apps.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Nordic » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:09 pm

OK this is weird:

http://consumerist.com/2012/03/this-ame ... china.html

"This American Life" Retracts Story On Foxconn Factory That Makes Apple Products
By Mary Beth Quirk on March 16, 2012 2:35 PM

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Many listeners of American Public Media's This American Life radio program were shocked during the broadcast of an excerpt from comedian Mike Daisey's one-man-show, "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs," where he visits a Foxconn factory in China that makes Apple products, and encounters tales of terrible conditions and sad life stories of its workers. Turns out that much of that controversial story was just made up, and the show's host, Ira Glass, is issuing a retraction for the segment, "Mr. Daisey and the Apple Factory."

The reaction to the show was immediate, says the statement, as the podcast became the most popular in This American Life history, with 888,000 downloads. Listeners reacted with shock, with one even delivering a petition for better working conditions in the factories that reached over a quarter-million signatures.

The show's host, Ira Glass, writes on its blog:


I have difficult news. We've learned that Mike Daisey's story about Apple in China - which we broadcast in January - contained significant fabrications. We're retracting the story because we can't vouch for its truth. This is not a story we commissioned. It was an excerpt of Mike Daisey's acclaimed one-man show "The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs," in which he talks about visiting a factory in China that makes iPhones and other Apple products.
The China correspondent for the public radio show Marketplace tracked down the interpreter that Daisey hired when he visited Shenzhen China. The interpreter disputed much of what Daisey has been saying on stage and on our show. On this week's episode of This American Life, we will devote the entire hour to detailing the errors in "Mr. Daisey Goes to the Apple Factory."

Daisey lied to me and to This American Life producer Brian Reed during the fact checking we did on the story, before it was broadcast. That doesn't excuse the fact that we never should've put this on the air. In the end, this was our mistake.

We're horrified to have let something like this onto public radio. Many dedicated reporters and editors - our friends and colleagues - have worked for years to build the reputation for accuracy and integrity that the journalism on public radio enjoys. It's trusted by so many people for good reason. Our program adheres to the same journalistic standards as the other national shows, and in this case, we did not live up to those standards.

A press release with more details about all this is below. We'll be posting the audio of the program and the transcript on Friday night this week, instead of waiting till Sunday.

For the full news story and transcript on American Public Media's reaction, check out the source link below.



WTF?
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:17 pm

^^Either it's another James Frey asshole with po-mo justifications for their sphincterhood, or it's someone deliberately trying to undermine the ongoing coverage of Foxconn conditions.

"Oh, I heard about that, it all turned out to be fake." Basic psychology of rumor stuff. This could have been paid for by any number of Foxconn clients stateside. There's a lot of private companies that do this kind of elaborate shit.


EDIT: NOPE, JUST AN ASSHOLE. From his wiki page's listing of his previous performance art pieces:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Daisey#Monologues


Truth {the heart is a million little pieces above all things} (2006) is a monologue about James Frey, Oprah, lying, and telling the truth. Ran off-Broadway in New York City at Ars Nova Theatre.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Nordic » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:30 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:^^Either it's another James Frey asshole with po-mo justifications for their sphincterhood, or it's someone deliberately trying to undermine the ongoing coverage of Foxconn conditions.

"Oh, I heard about that, it all turned out to be fake." Basic psychology of rumor stuff. This could have been paid for by any number of Foxconn clients stateside. There's a lot of private companies that do this kind of elaborate shit.



Yeah, that's kinda what I was figuring.

Glad it's not that, thanks for looking into it.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:32 am

WombaticusRex wrote:po-mo justifications for their sphincterhood


The word "art" serves to cover a multitude of sins these days.

(Cue accusations of being uncreative / anti-freedom / humourless / envious / resentful.)
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby crikkett » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:59 am

Of course the Chinese interpreter, who is still stuck in Communist China would say that the story full of embarrassing contentions about a major Chinese factory is inaccurate. CYA.

However, Wikipedia says that Daisey admitted to lying about the story.

The story seemed too incendiary for NPR when I first heard it. I'm sorry that I didn't get a copy of that show, I'd meant to.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby crikkett » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:19 am

http://mikedaisey.blogspot.com/
Friday, March 16, 2012
"This American Life" has raised questions about the adaptation of AGONY/ECSTASY we created for their program. Here is my response:

I stand by my work. My show is a theatrical piece whose goal is to create a human connection between our gorgeous devices and the brutal circumstances from which they emerge. It uses a combination of fact, memoir, and dramatic license to tell its story, and I believe it does so with integrity. Certainly, the comprehensive investigations undertaken by The New York Times and a number of labor rights groups to document conditions in electronics manufacturing would seem to bear this out.

What I do is not journalism. The tools of the theater are not the same as the tools of journalism. For this reason, I regret that I allowed THIS AMERICAN LIFE to air an excerpt from my monologue. THIS AMERICAN LIFE is essentially a journalistic ­- not a theatrical ­- enterprise, and as such it operates under a different set of rules and expectations. But this is my only regret. I am proud that my work seems to have sparked a growing storm of attention and concern over the often appalling conditions under which many of the high-tech products we love so much are assembled in China.
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby happenstance » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:29 pm

Not the first time Daisey has manipulated the truth to get a better story. From 2007 but just published last month. This is the middle section of a long piece about hoaxes & illegal music downloading.

http://thephoenix.com/boston/music/1339 ... TOPCONTENT
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby jcivil » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:01 pm

This Lee translator reversing everything et al really smells of money and danger being bandied about. A lot of Chinese and global players do not like any light at all in their sty.

Look at how the NYT stands 100% behind its coverage. (Not like the NYT is reliable, still)
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:38 pm

I heard this interview twice yesterday.

I believe the translator was being forthright and honest when answering Schmitz's questions.

After all, didn't Daisey's admission confirm her truthfulness?
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Re: 'Mass suicide' protest at China Foxconn factory

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:48 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:After all, didn't Daisey's admission confirm her truthfulness?


Agree 100% -- he never stuck up for his story, just immediately back-pedaled into art major semantics.
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