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Postby slow_dazzle » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:50 pm

Maybe this should go in the UFO forum - mods, or whoever has the required access priviliges, can move it if they think it should go there.

I was trawling through Graham Hancock's website and found a gallery of shamanic paintings Absolutely beautiful.

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The artist's web site is hyperlinked and I note the artist is asking for donations of art materials. I'll be sending some - please do the same if you think the man deserves support (he does!)

I've always been interested in Hancock's research on lost civilisations and early human history. His book "Supernatural" has been well received by the msm heavies and seems to have avoided claims of it being junk science so I'll be getting a copy.

There is something about Hancock's descriptions of the "otherworld" seen by drug users that chimes with some of the stuff that gets posted on RI.

And two comments in relation to his book really made me sit up and think...

Why did Nobel Prize-winner Francis Crick keep concealed until his death the astonishing circumstances under which he first “saw” the double-helix structure of DNA? And why did he become convinced that the DNA molecule did not evolve naturally upon this planet but was sent here in bacteria by an alien civilisation?


Why have eminent scientists at the cutting edge of consciousness research, especially those who study the ways that hallucinogens work in the brain, recently begun to question long-established theories about the nature of reality? Why are some now even ready to consider the possibility, long ago embraced by shamans, that, far from being “false perceptions”, what we see in the strange imagery and experiences of hallucinations may be real perceptions of other “dimensions” and the beings inhabiting them?


I reserve judgement on the alien bit although there is a lot more to reality than our dulled, modern brains can comprehend. In fact, this would be a good debate to have...
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Postby theeKultleeder » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:32 pm

Nah. You can't slice up a transdimensional being and put it under a microscope. And since something happens on an EEG or an MRI when someone is seeing such things, the next logical conclusion is that it's just chemicals!
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Re: Shamanic art, alien ancestors and more...

Postby slimmouse » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:01 pm

slow_dazzle wrote:Maybe this should go in the UFO forum - mods, or whoever has the required access priviliges, can move it if they think it should go there.

I was trawling through Graham Hancock's website and found a gallery of shamanic paintings Absolutely beautiful.

Image

The artist's web site is hyperlinked and I note the artist is asking for donations of art materials. I'll be sending some - please do the same if you think the man deserves support (he does!)

I've always been interested in Hancock's research on lost civilisations and early human history. His book "Supernatural" has been well received by the msm heavies and seems to have avoided claims of it being junk science so I'll be getting a copy.

There is something about Hancock's descriptions of the "otherworld" seen by drug users that chimes with some of the stuff that gets posted on RI.

And two comments in relation to his book really made me sit up and think...

Why did Nobel Prize-winner Francis Crick keep concealed until his death the astonishing circumstances under which he first “saw” the double-helix structure of DNA? And why did he become convinced that the DNA molecule did not evolve naturally upon this planet but was sent here in bacteria by an alien civilisation?


Why have eminent scientists at the cutting edge of consciousness research, especially those who study the ways that hallucinogens work in the brain, recently begun to question long-established theories about the nature of reality? Why are some now even ready to consider the possibility, long ago embraced by shamans, that, far from being “false perceptions”, what we see in the strange imagery and experiences of hallucinations may be real perceptions of other “dimensions” and the beings inhabiting them?


I reserve judgement on the alien bit although there is a lot more to reality than our dulled, modern brains can comprehend. In fact, this would be a good debate to have...


Doesnt anyone on this forum find it strange to put it mildly, that virtually every creation story of ancient indigenous populations speaks of "those who came from the Heavens" and helped advance our civilisations ?

The immaculate conception being but one example; " The archangel Gabriel mating with Mother mary"

The Nephilim and Elohim ( Angels and Gods in the plural) of the OT ?

Fast foreward to the Watchers folks ;)

Those left on Mount Hebron.
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Postby Doodad » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:01 pm

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/bonnet.html

People afflicted with Charles Bonnet Syndrome see beings from another world. Many scientists would call these beings hallucinations. Others call this syndrome a portal to a parallel reality.

People with Charles Bonnet Syndrome (or "Bonnet-people") are otherwise mentally sound. The beings appear when the Bonnet-people's vision deteriorates as a result of eye diseases such as age-related macular degeneration -- or when patients have had both eyes removed. Charles Bonnet Syndrome is more common in older people with a high level of education.

Bonnet-people report that they see apparitions resembling distorted faces, costumed figures, ghosts, and little people.

Most Bonnet-people see beings wearing hats. For example, one very sane woman was sitting quietly at home when she suddenly saw several two-inch-high, stovepipe-hat-wearing chimney sweeps parading in front of her. (ref 2.) She tried to catch one, but could not. Her only medical problem was that she had poor sight due to macular degeneration.

Magnification of head region of previous image.

One patient described how a friend working in front of a tall privet hedge suddenly disappeared, as if he had suddenly put on a cloak of invisibility. "There was an orange peaked cap bobbing around in front of the hedge and floating in space by its own devices." (ref. 1)

Fifty percent of Bonnet-people see a disembodied or distorted face of a stranger with staring eyes and prominent teeth. Sometimes the strangers are seen only in an outline or cartoon-type form, which reminds me of the images seen by people taking the psychedelic drug DMT. The faces "are often described as being grotesque, or like gargoyles". (ref. 1)

Some of the beings have blank eye sockets. (This image is also reported by people using the hallucinogen Special K. One person e-mailed me and told me that while under the influence, everything was normal except that people in the room had no eye sockets, just a black void, and he saw light being sucked into the void from around the periphery of the eyeballs.)

(Click to magnify the vortex.)

Bonnet-people also see serene landscapes and vortices. Many Bonnet-people will see entire new worlds, such as landscapes or groups of people, which are either life size or tiny (ref 3.)



Perhaps when vision deteriorates, the brain's visual cortex is starved for information, and the brain is free to access parallel realities.

Sometimes the imagery can be complex, almost comical, like two miniature policemen guiding a midget villain to a tiny prison van, ghostly (translucent figures floating in the hallway), people wearing one big flower on their heads), as well as beautiful (a shining angel, wonderful group of flowers). (ref 4.)

Further magnification of head region of previous image.

A Swiss philosopher named Charles Bonnet first described this condition in the 1760 when he noticed his grandfather, who was blinded by cataracts, describing birds and buildings that Bonnet could not see. (ref. 3)



This link will likely be of more interest.

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmt.html
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Postby H_C_E » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:54 pm

And there's our input from the materialist set.

subvert the dominant paradigm....


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Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:40 am

I believe this book is pertinent to the subject of lost knowledge/history. Where once humans received knowledge through heart-based perception we now only receive knowledge indirectly from others. We have come to believe what we are told, not what we feel. This has become a huge problem which even threatens the future of our species, because most of us are unaware that we're acting on the lies which infect such knowledge.

http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/bo ... TeaPla.cfm

Ancient and indigenous peoples considered their knowledge of plant medicines to have come from the plants themselves. This heart-centered mode of perception can be exceptionally accurate and detailed in its information gathering if the heart's perceptive abilities are opened. The author explores this mode of perception through the work of numerous healers and researchers such as Luther Burbank, Henry David Thoreau, Masanobu Fukuoka, and Goethe, portraying the commonalities among these individuals in their approach to learning from the plant world. As Buhner outlines the specific steps involved in this method of learning, readers will gain the tools necessary to gather information directly from the heart of nature, to directly learn the medicinal uses of plants, to engage in diagnosis of disease, and to understand the implications of this deep connection.
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
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