Internet is "the new Afghanistan": NY police commi

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By Michelle Nichols and Edith Honan

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Internet is the new battleground against Islamist extremism because it provides ideology that could radicalize Westerners who might then initiate home-grown attacks, New York police commissioner Raymond Kelly said on Wednesday.

"The Internet is the new Afghanistan," Kelly said, as he released a New York Police Department (NYPD) report on the home-grown threat of attacks by Islamist extremists. "It is the de facto training ground. It's an area of concern."

The report found that the challenge for Western authorities was to identify, pre-empt and prevent home-grown threats, which was difficult because many of those who might undertake an attack often commit no crimes along the path to extremism.

The report identified the four stages to radicalization as pre-radicalization, self-identification, indoctrination, and jihadization, and said the Internet drove and enabled the process.

Radicalization could be triggered by such things as the loss of a job, the death of a close family member, alienation, discrimination, and international conflicts involving Muslims, said the report by senior NYPD intelligence analysts.

"Much different from the Israeli-Palestinian equation, the transformation of a Western-based individual to a terrorist is not triggered by oppression, suffering, revenge or desperation," it said.

"Rather, it is a phenomenon that occurs because the individual is looking for an identity and a cause and unfortunately, often finds them in extremist Islam," said the report "Radicalization in the West: The Home-grown Threat."

While the September 11 strike on the United States by Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was planned overseas, the report said the attacks had helped proliferate and accelerate radicalization, especially in the West.

"More importantly, 9/11 established the current trend of committing an act in the name of global jihad as a natural culmination of full radicalization and the ultimate responsibility for the fully radicalized jihadist," it said.

But starting the radicalization process does not mean everyone will progress to "become a terrorist."

"Individuals who have been radicalized but are not jihadists may serve as mentors and agents of influence to those who might become terrorists of tomorrow," said the report, which analyzed five home-grown U.S. attack plots.

It says Europe's failure to integrate second and third generation immigrants into society, both economically and socially, had left young Muslims more vulnerable to extremism.

While economic opportunities in the United States are better and the country's Muslims are more resistant to Islamist extremism, they are "not immune to the radical message."

"The powerful gravitational pull of individuals' religious roots and identity sometimes supersedes the assimilating nature of American society," the report said.

[theeKultleeder]

Sometimes I am just plain glad I'm white. I'm sure we'll see some novel approaches to pre-empting radicalization on the internet. Or maybe not so novel.

[stickdog99]

Where in the hell is the supposed evidence for this supposed phenomenon?

This is nothing but a supremely obvious "priming of the pump" for the bs narrative of the supposed motivations of the next "suicidal terrorist" patsies.

[water]

...a series of tubes connected to jihadize unsuspecting malcontents...right..um..anything else?

[orz]

I almost with They'd stop going on about the evils of the internet and just ban the thing already. Put up or shut up as they say.

The fact that they haven't yet is kind of reassuring in a way, but I'm sure they're working on it very hard, and the whole Net Neutrality battle etc is far from won.

[nomo]

If they ban the Internets they can't monitor us as efficiently.

[Seventhsonjr]

that and the story that we will need passports to use federal parks etc.

The new passports have gps don't they.

We are so totally fucked and the dickwads who are behind this, backing it, watching us and justifying it, have no CLUE what treason it is or how it DETROYS our constitution.

How do they live with themselves?

I imagine that they have been brainwashed into the Bush jihad against "our freedoms".

Hidden in this story is that they now openly express that it is those folks who will not become "terrorists" themselves who are the targets, but those who support an anti-fascist mindset which will turn others against the BFEE.

I cannot quite think of anything much scarier than all of this.

It was Chalmers Johnson's story/interview about : "it is too late: get out of the US while you can" that really started to make me jittery.

Lion Feuchtwanger and Thomas Mann said the same thing in Nazi Germany in 1932. They survived. But tens of millions did not.

Read that article in its enitrety closely. They are coming after me and you. We are the new "jihadists" in their sick worldview. We who love America, love our Constitution and bill of rights, who are truer patriots than they can ever imagine. WE are the new enemy. Because we speak these words.

If the repubs win the next election for the white house (or cancel/postpone elections) then we really are out of time to save America from all out fascism.

TO Agent mike: how in the fuck can you sleep at night selling out your family, your country, your constitution and the founding principals of this democracy? Not to mention our whole planet?

Do you not see that this is the Bush jihad against our freedoms?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

TO Agent mike: how in the fuck can you sleep at night selling out your family, your country, your constitution and the founding principals of this democracy? Not to mention our whole planet?

Do you not see that this is the Bush jihad against our freedoms?

I know you know, Seventhsonjr, but vast swaths of otherwise ok people are still blinded by the hoax called 9/11, which, to them, justifies the whole Minority Report USA program.

Until we get 9/11 Truth into our government and military-intelligence culture, they will continue to look out for repeats of that worst-case scenario, no surprise.

Hey, 'Agent Mike.' Have you figure out yet that the WTC was blown up with a sophisticated controlled demolition run by a rogue cell of your own people? Look up Operations Eligible Receiver and Northwoods.

Look up how a junior high school-level law of physics called the Conservation of Momentum prove the WTC was an inside job. Those buildings couldn't come down that fast without being blown up and your government is hiding this to take advantage for a big oil field occupation.

Seventhsonjr, you realize that the watchers have learned some things from watching, right? Just spell it out for them nice and easy....

[Seventhsonjr]

"The Internet is the new Afghanistan," Kelly said, as he released a New York Police Department (NYPD) report on the home-grown threat of attacks by Islamist extremists. "It is the de facto training ground. It's an area of concern."

The report found that the challenge for Western authorities was to identify, pre-empt and prevent home-grown threats, which was difficult because many of those who might undertake an attack often commit no crimes along the path to extremism.

The report identified the four stages to radicalization as pre-radicalization, self-identification, indoctrination, and jihadization, and said the Internet drove and enabled the process.

Radicalization could be triggered by such things as the loss of a job, the death of a close family member, alienation, discrimination, and international conflicts involving Muslims, said the report by senior NYPD intelligence analysts.

"Much different from the Israeli-Palestinian equation, the transformation of a Western-based individual to a terrorist is not triggered by oppression, suffering, revenge or desperation," it said.

"Rather, it is a phenomenon that occurs because the individual is looking for an identity and a cause and unfortunately, often finds them in extremist Islam," said the report "Radicalization in the West: The Home-grown Threat."

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But starting the radicalization process does not mean everyone will progress to "become a terrorist."

"Individuals who have been radicalized but are not jihadists may serve as mentors and agents of influence to those who might become terrorists of tomorrow," said the report, which analyzed five home-grown U.S. attack plots.



Frankly, educating the agents to fascism has been one of my primary goals on the internet. In many cases they do not yet even KNOW that they are supporting fascism. Like Hitler's "night of the long knives" when Hitler's killer thugs slit the throats of their own agents - agents for the right are expendable to the fascist reich of the BFEE. Making them aware of how they are being used helps when they finally realize, like sibel edmunds or valerie plame, that they are to be sacrificed for evil purposes which due detriment to our country and our freedoms and constitution, They can be "turned" to against those who endanger democracy - who are corrupt and commit massive crimes against humanity and against the laws they pretend to uphold. Against the principles of our nation.

But what this article says is that WE are the enemy. We who are educating folks to recognize fascism and learning the ways and means to oppose it - we are the new "jihadists" as simplistic and stupid as that is in reality.

We who are true patriots to principles of freddom and justice are the enemies of the BFEE who are the real criminals.

And the new war is against us. Places like RI and PI and even DU are the new battlegrounds. And they will use any means necessary to silence and/or disrupt us and badjacket us and even kill some of us.

All in violation of everything our constition stands for. And because we defend our constitution.

I HOPE they are listening. I HOPE they are paying attention. I HOPE they are learning. And I pray they put their knowledge to good use to protect us all, their own families, their children, and betray the traitors who have betrayed our country for corrupt purposes, greed and necrophilic perpetual global warfare for what they now know is the Fourth Reich of the twisted elites.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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But starting the radicalization process does not mean everyone will progress to "become a terrorist."

"Individuals who have been radicalized but are not jihadists may serve as mentors and agents of influence to those who might become terrorists of tomorrow," said the report, which analyzed five home-grown U.S. attack plots. [/i]
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Frankly, educating the agents to fascism has been one of my primary goals on the internet.

But what this article says is that WE are the enemy.

Of course we ain't dangerous bad guys. This article says that we could set off someone who is. And while that's a damn convenient chilling line, it has some tiny bit of truth to it.

I can understand this stated concern that a more violence-prone spectator might get riled up and do something dangerous stupid. There are so many walking wounded who have been steeped in the violent image-conditioning media that the spooks use to get recruits with. Many of us realize that Disney and other 'entertainment' for kids is violent and obsessed with competition and power to embed the values of militarism and capitalism.

So spook media is the REALLY BIG cause of concern, not us.



Not that the middle class readers on the internet are prone to that kind of thing as a demographic. They tend to be the anti-authoritarian pacifists that the Pentagon hates.

But all those Homeland inSecurity types are getting motivated and paid to stop the next Ted Kaczynski or Weathermen cell not realizing that the police-state is actually geared to look out for their own media system's domestic blowback.

But they can't say that. They have to say that those of us telling the ugly truth about fascist media might be triggering the unstable types.

So I'd make it a point, even when one is exasperated and outraged at fascism, to remind one's self and mention out loud, as one might do responsibly in a crowd of restive strangers, that violence itself is the enemy of justice, not a tool for promoting it despite the bullshit sentiments too many people let pass in that agit-prop movie, 'V for Vendetta.'

Violence spreads like a forest fire. We must each be the non-violent firebreaks in the woods that do not pass on the heat and pain. This is exactly how you stop the spread of psy-ops. You don't pass it on. Not only that, you help put out the fires burning up your neighbor. "Roll, baby, roll!"

That's what Jesus was trying to say but in a different language. "Be cool, y'all."

All that violent imagery coming out of CIA-Hollywood keeps our 'peace officers' busy on a Saturday night and now every night in post-CIA drug smuggling America.
Vietnam gave us CIA heroin wars, Reagan gave us CIA cocaine wars.
And Cheney made the heroin pie higher still.
Hey, NYC Police Commish! THAT'S your "new Afghanistan."

Hmm...British ex-ambassador Craig Murray just wrote about how the Brits were guarding the largest Afghan heroin yield yet. Maybe that's why this article badjacketing the people who know the real story of Afghanistan came out.
Keywords - they're dealt like cards in a poker game of psy-ops.

I hope DEA and DIA are keeping an eye on the CIA and FBI. And vice-versa.
Somebody puh-leeeze WATCH THE WATCHERS.

To be a revolutionary today is to be a therapist, healer, and educator on the paths of Jesus, Ghandi, and Martin Luther King.

(Remember that, 'Agent Mike.)'

[water]

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edit: Hm.. Is it even possible to create a win/win situation in politics?

[Seventhsonjr]

Of course we ain't dangerous bad guys. This article says that we could set off someone who is. And while that's a damn convenient chilling line, it has some tiny bit of truth to it.

I have to take a different approach here in this analysis.

What is setting off dangerous bad guys is the INJUSTICE and Misery which is brought about by rampant fascism globally.

Waking someone up to what they can do about it (nonviolently) makes us TARGETS of psyops and investigations.

The NYC commissioner is blatantly saying that people like us ARE the enemy when nothing could be further from the truth.

What sets people off is NOT those of us who are powerless who use freedom of speech to oppose fascism, but those agents who promote fascism, desperation and, despite what the coimmish claims, ARE oppressed by conditions which exist here in the US.

[Seventhsonjr]

[quote="water"]. Something that has not caused an erosion or further destruction of those values and freedoms... In all honesty, with no spin, Can someone please tell me a good thing, a succesful thing that has benifited everyone, that this administration has done.. please? One thing it has handled successfully and to the benifit of the people?

Do I sound like a terrorist already to them? Its an honest, simple, straightforward question - just one thing. Anything. I need to hear it. Please?
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Under the circumstances there is a VERY positive thing which this administration has done: it has exposed itself as the Naziist Fourth Reich of Aryan psychopaths that it really is and has alienated practically the whole planet against such assholes. THIS shall be the tipping point for the current generation of fascists: that they were so necrophilically greedy and pompous and stupid and droolingly pathological that they made everyone NEVER want anyone LIKE such assholes in power again anywhere.

Was it Jim Morrison who said: they may have the guns but we have the numbers. And now our numbers are WAY up! Their guns may be wau up too as well as their technology and effectiveness. But we STILL have the numbers to reduce fascism to a stain on history. It can never be completley blotted out forever (as Camus' "The Plague" says, fascism is a virus which sleeps and can be resurrected when the conditions are right even when subdued or beaten down), but with history, the internet and sheer numbers on our side (the side adverse to fascism) there is, at least, hope.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Violence spreads like a forest fire. We must each be the non-violent firebreaks in the woods that do not pass on the heat and pain. This is exactly how you stop the spread of psy-ops. You don't pass it on. Not only that, you help put out the fires burning up your neighbor. "Roll, baby, roll!"

That's what Jesus was trying to say but in a different language. "Be cool, y'all."


To be a revolutionary today is to be a therapist, healer, and educator on the paths of Jesus, Ghandi, and Martin Luther King.

(Remember that, 'Agent Mike.)'

Best thing you have written Hugh. So spot on.

[Crow]

The "four steps" are hilarious. Clearly someone needed to write a report.