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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:25 am

I don't hold a bias against the bible, in fact I've spent an exhaustive amount of time researching theological interpretation, eschatological studies of Revelations and even looking into gnostic scriptures.

My thing is this; if Christians believe in an evil force, then they have to see that ALL faiths...the Arahamic ones especially, are controlled by evil.

Religon as we know it is used to control, as much as some use it to inspire and help the needy. We see this even before Constantine. Hell they made Christ's best friend and top aspostle a whore. I'm not sure Jesus is happy about that, if he exists

Then again, some believe Christ is buried with his wife and daughter under an Israeli apartment building, so who knows. I just take the message.

However, if one believes in the bible, then they would also see the UFO/abduction/DNA hybrid phenomenon as merely Nephilim 2.0

I think there's a clear reason why of all places, Iraq is this scene of endless chaos, with Russia and Iran buddying up.

Also I dont buy the "666" thing. "Satanists", if you mean of the global esoteric elite, love the number 7. They also like to use the word "the Light".
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Postby theeKultleeder » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:30 pm

When I read my Bible, I generally only take serious the words in red, you know, the Word of Jesus Christ.

Bible thumpers pick and choose way too much. Some rules in Leviticus or absolutely imperative, while others are quietly ignored. Thing is, the ignored ones are no longer useful in modern society, and the ones some Christians desperately cling to will fade away as well.

But that's just me.
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Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:41 am

8bitagent wrote:We see this even before Constantine. Hell they made Christ's best friend and top aspostle a whore. I'm not sure Jesus is happy about that, if he exists


1) Wasn't his best friend.
2) Wasn't his top apostle.
3) As Christianity is about the forgiveness and redeption of sin, being a reformed whore isn't at all a bad thing. Quite the opposite. The worse the things you've done, the better you'll behave and the sorrier you'll be.
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:19 am

Stephen Morgan wrote:
8bitagent wrote:We see this even before Constantine. Hell they made Christ's best friend and top aspostle a whore. I'm not sure Jesus is happy about that, if he exists


1) Wasn't his best friend.
2) Wasn't his top apostle.
3) As Christianity is about the forgiveness and redeption of sin, being a reformed whore isn't at all a bad thing. Quite the opposite. The worse the things you've done, the better you'll behave and the sorrier you'll be.


Hey, I'm not saying Christ is buried with a kid and Mary Magdelan under Israeli apartments as James Cameron believes, Im just saying that it's clear the elites did all they could a few hundred years after early Christianity formed to really poison the well.
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Postby NavnDansk » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:16 am

I think there's a clear reason why of all places, Iraq is this scene of endless chaos, with Russia and Iran buddying up.


Why is Iraq the scene of endless chaos? The Babylonian Talmud, the predictions about Babylon in the Book of Revelations, that Abraham came from the land of Ur?

I am interested in why you say that and why people say that Constantine and the Council of Nicea deliberately left things out of the Bible and the Creed. What is in the Gnostic Gospels that is so important or would be useful? Really interested to learn more. I have tried reading the Gnostic Gospels but couldn't get into them but my favorite book in the Bible is the Gospel of St. John which has been called the Gnostic Gospel.

I did look up some of the occult symbolism of 911 which I had not thought of - the most important to me seems to be the blasphemy of THE BIG WEDDING trying to usurp the most important MARRIAGE FEAST OF THE LAMB before the beginning of heaven.

The Freemason links get boring but I had never heard of The Sphere though wiki said it was highlighted on a number of TV news shows. Looked it up on RI and couldn't find anything but there may be a better way to search for it.


http://rochester92.vox.com/library/post ... -read.html

http://jakekotze.com/uncategorized/2007 ... id-part-2/

To conclude:

We have included the pyramids, the Pillars of Hercules and the Benben stone as symbols involved in the 9/11 ritual. I have tried to use the rather unconventional technique of using pop-culture synchronicities (which I sometimes call synchro-mysticism) to help justify my claims, a method that I am sure helps alienate and delight in equal measures. Hopefully, the results this investigative tool yield will outweigh the natural skepticism (to validity of the application of such a non-rational way of research) some will undoubtedly harbor towards it.

Does this meticulous choice of symbolism and archetypes look like the work of fanatical ultra lucky terrorists? The only explanation that could even half consolidate the extremely subtle freemasonic and ritualistic aspects of 9/11 with the terrorist scenario was put forward by Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval in “Talisman”. At the end of the book they take note of the symbolic nature of 9/11 and unfortunately interpret (with all respect, they are master scholars) this as the Muslim extremist trying to send an anti-Masonic message to America. I for one believe the message to be far more subtle and way beyond anything possibly masterminded by fanatics and extremists. I do believe the 9/11 ritual has done amazing things for consciousness and woken up millions to more subtle levels of reality. Yet I cannot, as a person who tries to follow the ideals of pacifism, love and humility, in any way condone such a mega-ritual involving the murder of thousands. If these are the tactics the enlightened and supposedly Illuminated in the secret societies are following to bring about planetary consciousness change, we should all take issue. Perhaps that is the point…


http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2006/1 ... reams.html

Greg from “Occult of Personality” did a piece on my work and I never thanked him on the blog. A little late, but here’s the link if you’re interested.

http://prophecy333.blogspot.com/2006/12 ... n-for.html
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CONTACTING GOD: THE OCCULT MOTIVATION FOR THE 9/11 MEGA--RITUAL

The World Trade Centre complex is shown atop the primordial mound of Atum penetrating the chaos of Nu. 'The Sphere' sculpture stands in between them representing the Benben and Kaaba and giving us a hint as to the Egyptian origins of the 9/11 symbolism and talisman employed in the mega-ritual. We see the eye in the triangle with the processional movements of the stars indicating the astrological and heavenly bodies’ significance in the timing and invocation of this magickal act committed on 11 September 2001.

This image and post examines the motivation of the ritual-the
opening of the stargate or cosmic consciousness- an attempt at contacting God our alien creator.Since my previous post, focusing on the WTC as veiled pyramids and "Great Spherical Caryatid" (a large sculpture in the middle of the World Trade Centre plaza up until 9/11),

I’ve been thinking more about this strange object. I highlighted how it was designed to represent the Kaaba at Mecca. It was shown how the sculpture is related to atlas, the Black Stone inside the Kaaba and the Benben. All of these attributes connected to this bronze "The Sphere" (its popular nickname) sculpture, implies another occult interpretation of this corporate art piece.

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The massive sculpture, which creates the image of a floating pyramid-structured in black granite stone, stood in front of the World Trade Center buildings, which were destroyed in the Sept. 11 attacks.


http://www.kansaiscene.com/2004_01/html/news.shtml

"Sphere Within a Sphere" sculpted by Arnaldo Pomodoro located outside the Vatican Museum.

Thanks to Vince, who left a comment on my previous post, for pointing this out. Is this sculpture another occult reference to the Benben or Great pyramid (The Great Pyramid containing the Pi ratio)?

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(Click on image to enlarge). The World Trade Centre complex and its layout as compared with the Masonic first degree tracing board and the pyramids of Giza.

The three felled buildings of 9/11 are imposed over the three pillars of Masonry and the pyramids of Giza, reflecting a new discovery about the subtle encoding of symbols invoked by the 9/11 mega-ritual.

Tired of reading, hearing and watching stuff about the World Trade Centre disaster? I know I am. I want to exorcise the event from my mind so that I can just let go and get on with a life more centered on the present. Yet I am drawn again and again into the debate because I feel we as a whole are nowhere near understanding what the hell happened that day. My primary concern with 9/11 is the occult and mystic symbols employed and encoded in its execution and how they relate to the possibility of a ritualistic aspect at play. From a synchronistic standpoint I want to see how portrayals and references to the incident in pop-culture interact with metaphysical interpretations of 9/11's meaning.


http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.c ... art-2.html

WTC as veiled pyramids and "Great Spherical Caryatid" (a large sculpture in the middle of the World Trade Centre plaza up until 9/11),

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Image:Sphere before Sept 11.jpg

The Sphere

The Sphere is a large metallic sculpture by German sculptor Fritz Koenig, currently displayed in Battery Park, that once stood in the middle of Austin Tobin Plaza, the area between the World Trade Center towers in Manhattan. After being recovered from the rubble of the Twin Towers after the September 11, 2001 attacks, its fate was initially uncertain and it was dismantled into its components. Although it remained structurally intact, it had been visibly damaged by debris from the airliners that were crashed into the buildings and the collapsing skyscrapers themselves.

Six months after the attacks, following a documentary film about the sculpture, it was relocated to Battery Park on a temporary basis—without any repairs—and formally rededicated with an eternal flame as a memorial to the victims of 9/11. It has become a major tourist attraction, due partly to the fact that it survived the attacks with only dents and holes. It will be returned to its original home once the Freedom Tower project is completed.

After 9/11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sphere

Upon recovery from the rubble pile, where an airliner seat, a Bible and papers from the various offices in the World Trade Center were discovered within, it was dismantled and sent to storage near John F. Kennedy International Airport. Its uncovering had been widely covered in local news media in the New York metropolitan area, however, and as it was a memorable feature of the Twin Towers site there was much discussion about using it in a memorial, especially since it seemed to have come through the attacks relatively unscathed.


The Marriage Feast of the Lamb
http://www.solomonscourt.com/Deception and Discernment
"The Poison & the Antidote"

http://www.spreadinglight.com/prophecy/antichrist.html

Looking for the Antichrist

By Mike Stine

(lists compiled from a sermon by Robert Conway)

2 Thessalonians 2:3-10

3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. 5 Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

2 Thessalonians speaks of a man of lawlessness who will appear on the earth in the end times.

Who is this man of lawlessness? He is given many names in the Bible, but the one most commonly associated with him is the Antichrist. However, there are numerous references to him from the beginning of the Bible until the end. He is referred to as all of the following:

* The Serpent’s Seed – Genesis3:15
* The Wicked Man – Psalm 10
* The Assyrian – Isaiah 10:5, 12
* The King of Babylon – Isaiah 14:4
* The Oppressor and Aggressor – Isaiah 16:4
* The Little Horn – Daniel 7:8
* The Profane King – Daniel 7:25-27
* The Stern-faced King – Daniel 8:23-25
* The Coming Prince – Daniel 9:26-27
* The Worthless Shepherd – Zechariah 11:11-16
* The One Who Comes in His Own Name – John 5:43
* The Man of Lawlessness – 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, 8
* The Antichrist – 1 John 2:18
* The Beast – Revelation 13:18, 17:12-17, 19:19-21


http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/01/ ... mafia.html

ttp://www.gardinersworld.com/content/view/191/39/

911 and the Occult

http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1533.cfm

THE OCCULT POWER OF NUMBERS

We can see already that this disaster contains a huge occult signature. Once you understand how this tragedy is undergirded by elevens, you will understand that the Illuminati has carefully placed its fingerprints all over this event. Why would they do this? They would want to hide the truth from the masses, while communicating it to the elite occultists all over the world.

To understand this fact, you need to understand that the occultist literally fulfills Paul's explanation of a pagan, of a satanist, in Romans 1:25, "... they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator ..."
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:05 am

I find that 911 megaritual stuff interesting, same with the idea of synchromystecism.

But contacting God?

Get real.

If there is anything to the woo woo 8bit and geogeo are talking about on this thread (and deep down I think there is), then the purpose of the ritual is to secure and expand power, for purposes s_d mentioned on another thread sure, and for other reasons, basically to secure power.

And it has worked. For whatever reason, power is being secured, and the grip on it tightened. There has been sweet FA response to the tightening of the grip on power worldwide, from the populations you would most expect to be up in arms about it. Why, well believing the lie, (but how has that happened?), the PTSD that cultures have experienced in response to the event. And I can also see a link between traumatic mind control and 911, and the possibility that people have been subject to that trauma based mc via 911.

geo wrote

The holy grail of this for me is finding a clear precedent in some sort of suggested or proposed magic ritual, and I have little doubt it is buried somewhere online, or at least there is something more suggestive.


How do you deconstruct or reverse engineer the ritual?

Current 93, liber CLXXV, the pentagram thing..., 11.

Assocxiations with 911 are long standing, most notably the 911 emergency numer in the us. Does the date also use those those previous associations. (911 - who you gonna call - the "authorities", those in power).

This 93 current has inspired whole schools of thought and created radical change in the unconscious layers of society.


http://jonathanbethel.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=21

What diety has been united to?

Collapsing the pillars of thingo and whatsisname does what?

I dunno if you need to look for a precedent online, so much as put together a structure out of the elements that would satisfy the needs of the ritual we are trying to identify, then try testing it against online sources or offline sources to see whether it stacks up as a plausable explanation.

I know that throwaway line about Kotze vids might have been a little smartarsery, but keep this thread going cos I for one think there is something worthwhile in it.
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Postby NavnDansk » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:24 am

I just skimmed the articles that I reference above. It may be an "energy sink" don't know if it is really worth the time investigating but the SPHERE was strange and wiki said it was all over the MSM but I have never seen it referred to - also your comment on 911 as the emergency number is spot on - it was in the back of my mind from the beginning of this mind control operation but I don't remember anyone mentioning it either.

I keep thinking that part of the mind control is and was to get people to feel they are in a WWII movie, fighting evil for a noble cause but without the real suffering since not many people seem to care what is being done to our soldiers and to our military and ability to really defend ourselves.

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Someone wrote a blog about the Seymour Hersh article called THE SAMSON OPTION which is that the Israelis want to pull everything down on the world if they can't be safe - this was a Seymour Hersh article, and he used that phrase.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:11 am

NavnDansk wrote:I keep thinking that part of the mind control is and was to get people to feel they are in a WWII movie, fighting evil for a noble cause but without the real suffering since not many people seem to care what is being done to our soldiers and to our military and ability to really defend ourselves.


Well DID is an aspect of trauma based MC, and I can see some element of disassociation in that ww2 movie analogy.

Its a trance like state that seems to afflict many people when the idea of terrorism and "the war on terror" comes up.

Reinforced by mantra's like "support our troops", (- if Iraq is a warcrime then perhaps supporting the troops to fight the war isn't such a good thing, and bringing them home is a better form of support, cos it protects them from committing a crime -) backing out now is giving in to terror, etc etc. Symbolic reinforcement - yellow ribbons and flags.

Thats one aspect of the ritual power of what happened on sept 11.

BTW I remember reading that Hersh article somewhere. Freaked the fuck out of me. Tho I dunno if its true or not. Its certainly suits Israel to have that idea "out there", well the rabid nasty "zionist" element of Israel.

Suits the anti Israel, anti Jewish mentality too for that matter. Whether its true or not.
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Postby NavnDansk » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:52 am

What is DID? I see a lot of acronyms esp. for SRA and sometimes either come across the whole acronym written out and sometimes can guess but I have seen DID for a while and don't know what it refers to - I should read more about mind control use in propaganda but should research so many things - the Pathocrats have think tankers on retainer, it is hard for one person to keep up with even what the crimes are like hedgefunds much less come up with a counter insurgency - someone on DU used to say that the crimes of the BFEE are so extensive that maybe we should assign different crimes to different people to research and report back so efforts aren't duplicated when there is SO MUCH CRIMES AND SO LITTLE TIME.:shock:

I think one of the most useful things would be to identify how so many Americans have been kept brainwashed after the deliberate trauma of 911 and try to write a simplified version to send to pastors, not all are fundies and even the ones who are are influenced by the crazies but really care about doing the right thing - many Christians cut themselves off from the mass media because the correctly suspected the agenda but can't articulate it and are pointed to scapegoats by very sophisticated techniques.

Samson Option
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The Samson Option is a term used to describe the most controversial of the strategies alleged to underlie Israel's development of a nuclear weapons arsenal. This is a "last resort" deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons should the state of Israel be substantially damaged or destroyed. Such retaliation might involve targeting Arab or other nations considered enemies, and not just whichever countries had attacked Israel. Israel officially maintains a policy of nuclear ambiguity as to whether it has nuclear weapons, but it is estimated it has as many as 400 atomic and hydrogen nuclear weapons.[1]

According to American journalist Seymour Hersh in his best selling book The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, Israeli leaders like David Ben-Gurion, Shimon Peres and Moshe Dayan created the term in the mid-1960s to describe one of their nuclear strategies. They named it after the Biblical figure Samson, who is said to have pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself and thousands of Philistines who had gathered to see him humiliated. They contrasted it with ancient siege of Masada where 936 Jewish Sicarii greatly outnumbered by Roman legions committed mass suicide rather than be defeated and enslaved by the Romans.[2]


http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/is ... reats.html

Return to "Is World Nuclear War Inevitable?" at CarolMoore.Net

ISRAELI NUCLEAR THREATS AND BLACK MAIL

Samson Option - Official Threats - Unofficial Threats - Armageddon Lobby

Nuclear Timeline - USS Liberty Incident Nuclear? - Israeli Nuclear Disarmament

2007 - ISRAEL AND/OR U.S. PREPARING TO ATTACK IRAN??
Get frequent news updates at public archives STOPIRANWAR yahoo group also see STOPTHEWARNOW.NET and a variety of scenarios
WILL WORLD NUCLEAR WAR RESULT??(See Scenarios page.)

"Arabs may have the oil, but we have the matches." Israeli leader Ariel Sharon

"Masada was not an example to follow--it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Sampson in Gaza? With an H-bomb? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens?" David Perlmutter in Los Angeles Times


The United States government and foreign policy under George W. Bush is run by neoconservatives tightly linked to Israel's right wing Likud Party and to Christian Zionists who believe an expansionist Israel will cause an apocalypse which will bring back Jesus (and he'll promptly kill all the Jews who don't convert!). Both groups desire to re-make the Middle East, in large part to make it safer for Israel to keep and even expand the large portion of its land it has illegally confiscated through state terrorism and military conquest over the last 60 years. And the Democrats aren't much better.

Amazon.com: The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy: Books: Seymour M. Hersh
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Postby NavnDansk » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:08 am

How do you deconstruct or reverse engineer the ritual?


I think and hope and pray that the military is trying to reverse engineer with all of the exposes about the collapse of the military, the revolt of the Generals against Rumsfeld and the Gitmo prosecutor blowing the whistle yesterday on ThinkProgress about the show trials bushco is planning and why he resigned.

Thursday, you posted a quote from a Washington Post news article:

"Although some details are not yet publicly known, officials familiar with the investigation say the problem originated at Minot when a pylon carrying six nuclear-armed cruise missiles was mistaken for one carrying unarmed missiles."

I replied:

"I have found no reliable indications that armed and unarmed missiles were kept in the same bunkers. And if they were, all security protections applicable to armed missiles would apply to ALL missiles in the bunker."

"I think the suggestion that none of the safeguards would apply to any of the missiles merely because some of the missiles might not be armed is quite a stretch."

For an update on the increasing depth of the hole the Air Force is intently digging for itself, kindly see an article by Michael Hoffman published in yesterday's Air Force Times:

www.airforcetimes.com...

Maj. Gen. Richard “Dick” Newton, deputy chief of staff for operations, plans and requirements, and a former 5th Bomb Wing commander, confirmed after the briefing that:

"...cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads are not stored with cruise missiles armed with conventional warheads."

For me, this statement destroys the credibility of the Air Force's story.

Bluntly, the Air Force now asks us to believe this flight occurred because the crew:

"went to the wrong bunker".

Excuse me


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread302187/pg27

A few questions that keeps bugging me:

Why would the Air Force inform the public about a mistake like this?

Why would they publicly disclose the location of nukes?

Why not save the Air Force the embarasment and settle the problem out of the public spot light?

It has always been policy not to disclose the location nuclear weapons and I can't believe that the leaker was one of the Barksdale crew members that discovered the nukes. You know, gee lets tell the press what I found and how the Air Force screwed up. The leak had to come from higher up and for a very good reason.

I think the correct answer to these questions is that someone much higher up the chain of command, maybe even General Fallon who has refused to approve an attack on Iran, thought it was the only way to stop Cheney. Make it public, remove Cheney's cover, and make him hesitate.

When has the military ever so freely admitted a mistake? When has it ever broken the rule to never disclose the location of nukes? It had to be a really good reason. Like to save humanity from a madman.

Background info: www.afterdowningstreet.org.../27889


Mann says that she was also told by her own contacts in the Pentagon that the Joint Chiefs had expressed opposition to a strike against Iran.

The Joint Chiefs were soon joined in opposition to a strike on Iran by Admiral William Fallon, who was nominated to become CENTCOM commander in January. Mann says Pentagon contacts have also told her that Fallon made his opposition to war against Iran clear to the White House.

IPS reported last May that Fallon had indicated privately that he was determined to prevent an attack on Iran and even prepared to resign to do so. A source who met with Fallon at the time of his confirmation hearing quoted him as vowing that there would be “no war with Iran” while he was CENTCOM commander and as hinting very strongly that he would quit rather than go along with an attack.

Although he did not specifically refer to the Joint Chiefs, Fallon also suggested that other military leaders were opposing a strike against Iran, saying, “There are several of us who are trying to put the crazies back in the box,” according to the same source. This is good stuff. A highly concentrated story. All the lines lead to a central point — the cabal of crazies stretching back to the Strangelove period (and the Dulles brothers at the Versailles treaty selling out America, for that matter).

But the same criminals pursuing the same crimes, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush pere, Richard Pipes, Paul Nitze, the heirs of Scoop Jackson (seemingly every neocon alive today worked in his office, or their fathers did). You might have mentioned, Larisa, that Ghorbanifar was also central in Iran/Contra. Abrams is the most powerful (read: "dangerous") neocon today. Great to see him getting bad press. We need to revoke his pardon quick, fast, & in a hurry.

Another cross-link worth mentioning: the allegedly "accidental" transport of six tactical nuke cruise missiles, for which news is now out that a colonel and two lt. cols. are to be removed from command (Madsen: Air Force report on "Bent Spear" will scapegoat junior personnel and prolong cover-up, AP: 70 Punished in Accidental B-52 Flight), was actually part of a strike intended to coincide with this Operation Orchard thing in Syria, part of Project Checkmate ("Lost" B-52 nuke cruise missiles were on way to Middle East for attack on Iran), but courageous and patriotic elements in the Air Force outed the story to the Military Times and forced the Cheney faction to back down. Sad when the politicians have to be pulled off the war machine by soldiers, but thank heaven when they are!

" 'In the countless times our dedicated airmen have transferred weapons in our nation's arsenal, nothing like this has ever occurred,' said Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard Newton, briefing reporters on an investigation into the incident." IE., that kind of "accident" isn't an accident, because the procedures prevent it many times over. No accident — that's how close we are to landing a part in "Dr. Strangelove".To the depths of depravity that the United States has fallen to, no less than Americas most 'trusted' news source, The New York Times, this week compared themselves to last centuries Nazi Empire, and as we can read:


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel ... 769&page=2

"Our humanity has been compromised by those who use Gestapo tactics in our war. The longer we stand idly by while they do so, the more we resemble those "good Germans" who professed ignorance of their own Gestapo. It's up to us to wake up our somnambulant Congress to challenge administration policy every day. Let the war's last supporters filibuster all night if they want to. There is nothing left to lose except whatever remains of our country's good name."

In the madness of war and horrific destruction being visited upon the Muslim peoples of the World by the United States, and its dwindling allies, it is interesting, but sad, to note how far these once free people fallen in barely 100 years from their truest ideas as a new war with Iran looms before them , and as we can read:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 89x2100294
This is a MUST READ chilling piece that really connects the dots.

Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 06:50 AM by Tatiana
Colonel Westhusing’s death was ruled a suicide, though some believe he was murdered by contractors fearing a whistle-blower, according to T. Christian Miller, the Los Angeles Times reporter who documents the case in his book “Blood Money.” Either way, the angry four-page letter the officer left behind for General Petraeus and his other commander, Gen. Joseph Fil, is as much an epitaph for America’s engagement in Iraq as a suicide note.

“I cannot support a msn that leads to corruption, human rights abuse and liars,” Colonel Westhusing wrote, abbreviating the word mission. “I am sullied.”


So the question in my mind is did Prince's Blackwater outfit murder Col. Westhusing? Waxman has so many investigations going on that he really needs some additional staffers. How dysfunctional have we become that we are relying on one man (Waxman) through one (Oversight) committee to investigate the multitude of corruption scandals rampant throughout this administration? Where is the Department of Justice? Oh that's right -- another decimated government office.
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