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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:31 pm

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Excerpt from "Alien Blue Star"
By Miriam Delicado

"It was clear from the beginning of my life that my family and I were somehow different from the average person.

Growing up was difficult with a father that would constantly talk about the world ending. He seemed paranoid and often warned us about the Russians explaining how they tried to recruit him into a psychic program in 1944.

As I grew up my psychic ability began to surface and became very strong and clear. In 1988 at the age of 22 an abduction experience changed every aspect of my life. Tall blond aliens gave me a great deal of information. I was told by the aliens what to do with the information and also told I would remember the encounter.

Within one day every aspect of my life changed and the search for others like myself began. After months of being alone I finally found a man named John who was the first of five men that all look, dress, and act alike. I nicknamed them The Clones.

During the first couple of years after the abduction in 1988 I have a physical encounter with a blond alien at my place of employment, am visited by a MIB and the Russians attempt to recruit me into their psychic program.

After sharing the highway encounter with my father he confirms that he knows all about the aliens and has seen them all his life. He is upset that he could not stop them from getting to me.

This is only the beginning. As years pass I am led to the Four Corners area in the U.S.A where I find confirmation of all the information the aliens entrusted to me. This is where I meet a man that I was told about in detail twelve years earlier by the aliens.

When I travel through Hopi land I see a flash of spirals in the eyes of the Hopi men and in turn I understand what I must do. My path and how I am to fulfill my work becomes clear.

My relationship with the Hopi begins. They are surprised by my knowledge and my presence among them. Both the Hopi and I appear to be intertwined in specific alien knowledge.

The journey leads me back to my hometown where both my sister and I remember an event in 1970 where the aliens gave me a gift to bury. We both remember we were to keep it hidden from our father.

Pieces of this great puzzle are explained from why the book was written to how each family member feels about my contact. I then share the messages the Tall Blond aliens asked me to tell the world. "


About the Book

How does a woman from a small town in British Columbia, Canada become involved in one of the most talked about prophecies on the planet today? The Hopi Blue Star Prophecy.

Learn how her life was completely changed after an encounter on a lonely highway with Tall Blond Aliens in 1988.

Miriam embarks on a journey into a world of secret governments, Clones, Russian Psychic Army recruiters, the Ancient Hopi People and Alien encounters.

Her path leads to the discovery of the family secret; her father is somehow involved with the Blond Aliens and has been since before her birth.

The truth that Aliens exist is only the beginning. Learn how they are connected to our world, to humanity and why they are contacting the people of Earth today.

They share warnings about a possible future in which our existence as a species is at risk. Read Blue Star to learn where the Safe Lands will be in the End Times and why the Aliens' messages are important to all of us now!

Blue Star: Fulfilling Prophecy by Miriam Delicado

About the Author

Miriam Delicado, author of 'Blue Star, is a middle-aged woman that has always had an array of abilities and sensitivities. She is able to heal, predict earthquakes, connect with crossed-over spirits and astral travel. She also has psychic ability and gets premonitions. Her first memory is of being a baby and feeling the frustration of not being able to communicate with others.

Her life story encompasses much that is strange. She was first contacted by Aliens while a baby and was abducted for the first time at age four. These particular events were not in her consciousness until much later in her life.

The trigger that brought these occurrences back into her consciousness was an Alien abduction experience while on a road trip in 1988. Her journey leads her to The Four Corners Area of the southwestern United States. Since that time there have been many other encounters with 'Tall Blond' Aliens. The relationship that developed between Miriam and the Aliens became one of Teacher-Student and finally culminated into that of Emissary.

As a direct request from the 'Tall Blonds', and to fulfill the role of Emissary, she has written 'Blue Star - Fulfilling Prophecy'. In this book Miriam recounts her experiences with the Aliens, her travels to the Alien 'Safe Lands', her meetings with Hopi elders and the connections with indigenous peoples prophecies. She also shares the Alien's history of Man's creation and their involvement with Earth and 'The End Times'.

To find out more about Miriam's work go to www.alienbluestar.com
or email her at Miriam@alienbluestar.com




Prophecy & Hopi Elders

Date:
12-22-09
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George Noory

Guests:
Miriam Delicado

Since 1988, Miriam Delicado has been in contact with 'Tall Blond' extraterrestrial beings. Currently, she's working with Hopi Elders and will discuss their message for the world and how it ties in with Mayan Prophecy and the 'End Times.'


Prophecy & Hopi Elders/BlueStar Fullfilling Prophecy

Miriam Delicado--author and experiencer, joins us to discuss her book "Blue Star: Fullfilling Prophecy." Blue Star began after an abduction experience in 1988. Miriam was asked to write a book for the beings she had encountered explaining who they were at their request. The idea and acceptance of this task was not easy. Fifteen years after they initial requested, Miriam began writing. Not only did complete acceptance take place, but the TIME was right as well.
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Postby teamdaemon » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:04 pm

Hopi Prophecy

The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a "Kachina" removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children [the general public]. For a while there will be no more ceremonies, no more faith. Then Oraibi will be rejuvenated with its faith and ceremonies, marking the start of a new cycle of Hopi life.

World War III will be started by those peoples who first revealed the light (the divine wisdom or intelligence) in the other old countries (India, China, Islamic Nations, Africa.)

The United States will be destroyed, land and people, by atomic bombs and radioactivity. Only the Hopis and their homeland will be preserved as an oasis to which refugees will flee. Bomb shelters are a fallacy. "It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil. Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers."

The war will be "a spiritual conflict with material matters. Material matters will be destroyed by spiritual beings who will remain to create one world and one nation under one power, that of the Creator."

That time is not far off. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask. He represents a blue star, far off and yet invisible, which will make its appearance soon. The time is foretold by a song sung during the Wuwuchim ceremony. It was sung in 1914 just before World War I, and again in 1940 before World War II, describing the disunity, corruption, and hatred contaminating Hopi rituals, which were followed by the same evils spreading over the world. This same song was sung in 1961 during the Wuwuchim ceremony.

The Emergence to the future Fifth World has begun. It is being made by the humble people of little nations, tribes, and racial minorities. "You can read this in the earth itself. Plant forms from previous worlds are beginning to spring up as seeds [as described in SW-II, Effects and Coming Events # 1]. This could start a new study of botany if people were wise enough to read them. The same kinds of seeds are being planted in the sky as stars. The same kinds of seeds are being planted in our hearts. All these are the same, depending how you look at them. That is what makes the Emergence to the next, Fifth World.

"These comprise the nine most important prophecies of the Hopis, connected with the creation of the nine worlds: the three previous worlds on which we lived, the present Fourth World, the three future worlds we have yet to experience, and the world of Taiowa, the Creator, and his nephew, Sotuknang."

The Hopi and others who were saved from the Great Flood made a sacred covenant with the Great Spirit never to turn away from him. He made a set of sacred stone tablets, called Tiponi, into which he breathed his teachings, prophecies, and warnings. Before the Great Spirit hid himself again, he placed before the leaders of the four different racial groups four different colors and sizes of corn; each was to choose which would be their food in this world. The Hopi waited until last and picked the smallest ear of corn. At this, the Great Spirit said:

"It is well done. You have obtained the real corn, for all the others are imitations in which are hidden seeds of different plants. You have shown me your intelligence; for this reason I will place in your hands these sacred stone tablets, Tiponi, symbol of power and authority over all land and life to guard, protect, and hold in trust for me until I shall return to you in a later day, for I am the First and I am the Last."

The Great Chieftain of the Bow Clan led the faithful ones to this new land, but he fell into evil ways. His two sons scolded him for his mistake, and after he died they assumed the responsibilities of leadership. Each brother was given a set of Tiponi, and both were instructed to carry them to a place to which the Great Spirit directed them. The elder brother [of the shining light] was told to go immediately to the east, toward the rising sun, and upon reaching his destination to start back immediately to look for his younger brother, who remained on Turtle Island [the Continental United States of America]. His mission was to help his younger brother to bring about the Purification Day, at which time all evildoers would be punished or destroyed, after which real peace, brotherhood, and everlasting life would be established. The elder brother would restore all land to his younger brother, from whom the Evil one among the white men had taken it. The elder brother [of the shining light] also would come to look for the Tiponi tablets and fulfill the mission given him by the Great Spirit.

The younger brother was instructed to travel throughout the land and mark his footsteps as he went about. Both brothers were told that a great white star would appear in the sky; when that happened, all people would know that the elder brother had reached his destination. Thereupon all people were to settle wherever they happened to be at that time, there to remain until the elder brother returned.

The Hopi settled in the area now known as Four Corners, where the state lines of Arizona, New Mexico, Utah and Colorado meet. They lived in humble simplicity and the land produced abundant crops. This area is the "heart" of Turtle Island [the U.S.] and of Mother Earth, and it is the microcosmic image of the macrocosm of the entire planet. Each Hopi clan perpetuates a unique ceremony, and the ceremonies together maintain the balance of natural forces of sunlight, rain and winds, and reaffirm the Hopi respect for all life and trust in the Great Spirit.

The Hopi were told that after a time White Men would come and take their land and try to lead the Hopi into evil ways. But in spite of all the pressures against them, the Hopi were told they must hold to their ancient religion and their land, though always without violence. If they succeeded, they were promised that their people and their land would be a center from which the True Spirit would be reawakened.

It is said that after many years the elder brother might change the color of his skin, but his hair will remain black. He will have the ability to write, and he will be the only person able to read the Tiponi. When he returns to find his younger brother, the Tiponi will be placed side by side to show all the world that they are true brothers. Then great judgment will take place, for the elder will help the younger brother to obtain real justice for all Indian brothers who have been cruelly mistreated by the white man since he came to Turtle Island.

The transformed elder brother, the True White Brother, will wear a red cloak or a red cap, similar to the pattern on the back of a horned toad. He will bring no religion but his own, and will bring with him the Tiponi tablets. He will be all-powerful; none will be able to stand against him. He will come swiftly, and in one day gain control of this entire continent. It is said, "If he comes from the East, the destruction will not be so bad. But if he comes from the West, do not get up on your housetops to see because he will have no mercy."

The True White Brother will bring with him two great, intelligent and powerful helpers, one of whom will have a sign of a swastika (a masculine symbol of purity), and the sign of the sun. The second great helper will have the sign of a celtic cross with red lines (representing female life blood) between the arms of the cross.

When the Great Purification is near, these helpers will shake the earth first for a short time in preparation. After they shake the earth two times more, they will be joined by the True White Brother, who will become one with them and bring the Purification Day to the world. All three will help the "younger brother" (the Hopi and other pure-hearted people) to make a better world. In the prophecies, the two helpers are designated by the Hopi word for "population," as if they were large groups of people.

The Hopi were warned that if these three great beings failed, terrible evil would befall the world and great numbers of people would be killed. However, it was said that they would succeed if enough Hopi remained true to the ancient spirit of their people. The True White Brother and his helpers will show the people of earth a great new life plan that will lead to everlasting life. The earth will become new and beautiful again, with an abundance of life and food. Those who are saved will share everything equally. All races will intermarry and speak one tongue and be a family.

Hopi prophecy states that World War III will be started by the people who first received the Light -- China, Palestine, India and Africa. When the war comes, the United States will be destroyed by "gourds of ashes" which will fall to the ground, boiling the rivers and burning the earth, where no grass will grow for many years, and causing a disease that no medicine can cure. This can only mean nuclear or atomic bombs; no other weapon causes such effects. Bomb shelters will be useless, for "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of Life. There is no shelter for evil. When the Saquahuh (blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask, the time of the great trial will be here." The Hopi believe that only they will be saved.

The Hopi also have prophesied that "Turtle Island could turn over two or three times and the oceans could join hands and meet the sky." This seems to be a prophecy of a "pole shift" -- a flipping, of the planet on its axis. The Hopi call this imminent condition -- and that of society today -- "Koyaanisqatsi", which means "world out of balance...a state of life that calls for another way. "

The following extraordinary Hopi prophecy was first published in a mimeographed manuscript that circulated among several Methodist and Presbyterian churches in 1959. Some of the prophecies were published in 1963 by Frank Waters in The Book of the Hopi. The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958, a minister named David Young stopped to offer a ride to an Indian elder, who accepted with a nod. After riding in silence for several minutes, the Indian said:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying. Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."

The old Indian fell silent. They had arrived at his destination, and Reverend David Young stopped to let him out of the car. They never met again. Reverend Young died in 1976, so he did not live to see the further fulfillment of this remarkable prophecy.

The signs are interpreted as follows: The First Sign is of guns. The Second Sign is of the pioneers' covered wagons. The Third Sign is of longhorn cattle. The Fourth Sign describes the railroad tracks. The Fifth Sign is a clear image of our electric power and telephone lines. The Sixth Sign describes concrete highways and their mirage-producing effects. The Seventh Sign foretells of oil spills in the ocean. The Eighth Sign clearly indicates the "Hippy Movement" of the 1960s. The Ninth Sign was the U.S. Space Station Skylab, which fell to Earth in 1979. According to Australian eye-witnesses, it appeared to be burning blue.

Another Hopi prophecy warns that nothing should be brought back from the Moon -- obviously anticipating the Apollo 11 mission that returned with samples of lunar basalt. It this was done, the Hopi warned, the balance of natural and universal laws and forces would be disturbed, resulting in earthquakes, severe changes in weather patterns, and social unrest. All these things are happening today, though of course not necessarily because of Moon rocks.

The Hopi also predicted that when the "heart" of the Hopi land trust is dug up, great disturbances will develop in the balance of nature, for the Hopi holy land is the microcosmic image of the entire planet; any violations of nature in the Four Corners region will be reflected and amplified all over the Earth.

In 1959, a six-man delegation of traditional Hopi leaders led by the late spiritual leader, Dan Katchongva, traveled to the United Nations Building in New York to fulfill a sacred mission in accordance with ancient Hopi instructions. Because of their prophetic knowledge, the Hopi leaders felt it was time to go east to the edge of their motherland, where "a house of mica" [The United Nations building] would stand at this time, where Great Leaders from many lands would be gathered to help any people who are in trouble."

They were to go when the motherland of the Hopi and other Indian brothers were about to be taken away from them and their way of life was in danger of being completely destroyed by evil ones among the White Men and by some other Indian brothers who were influenced by the White Race. This is a clear and present danger: the betrayal of Indian-U.S.A. treaties, land sales, and coal and uranium mining are destroying the Hopi land and its people -- and all other peoples and lands, in eventual effect...

According to prophecy, at least one, two or three leaders or nations would hear and understand the Hopi warnings, as "It is told that they too should know these ancient instructions". Upon hearing the message of the Hopi, they would act immediately to correct many wrongs being done to the chosen race -- the Red Man who was granted permission to hold in trust all land and life for the Great Spirit. This prophecy would seem to have failed. Hopi prophecy also declares that the doors of the "Glass House" would be closed to them. This was the case at first, though they have delivered their message to the United Nations Assembly since then:

"When the Great Leaders in the Glass House refuse to open the door to you when you stand before it that day, [Repeated, again in 1993] do not be discouraged or turn about on the path you walk, but take courage, determination, and be of great rejoicing in your hearts, for on that day the White Race who are on your land with you have cut themselves from you and thereon lead themselves to the Greatest Punishment at the Day of Purification. Many shall be destroyed for their sins and evil ways. The Great Spirit has decreed it and no one can stop it, change it, or add anything to it. It shall be fulfilled!"

On August 7, 1970, a spectacular UFO sighting was witnessed by dozens of people and photographed by Chuck Roberts of the Prescott (Arizona)"Courier". This sighting occurred after a "UFO calling" by Paul Solem and several Hopi Indians. This sighting was interpreted by some Hopis as being a partial fulfillment of a certain Hopi prophecy given by the Great Spirit Maasau and inscribed on Second Mesa, warning of the coming of Purification Day, when the true Hopi will be flown to other planets in "ships without wings."

Hopi prophecy also tells us that there will be a mass migration of Indians northward from Mexico and Central and South America. The migration will be led by a 130-year old Indian named Etchata Etchana. The movement will come after the huge fire and explosion that will herald the advent of the True White Brother.

According to Hopi belief, the survivors of the Great Deluge thousands of years ago split up into four groups that moved north, south, east and west. Only one group completed their journey -- to the North Pole and back -- under the guidance of a brilliant "star" in which the Great Spirit Maasau traveled. When he landed, he drew a petroglyph on Second Mesa, showing a maiden (with the traditional "butterfly" hair arrangement) riding in a wingless, dome-shaped craft. The petroglyph signified the coming Day of Purification when the true Hopi will fly to other planets in "ships without wings."

The prophecy also warns that there will be three divisions among the Hopi The first division was in 1906 between the Traditionalists and the Modernists. The Traditionalists were forced to leave Oraibi and move to Hotevilla. The second division took place in the wake of the spectacular appearance of UFOs in August, 1970.
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Near Oraibi, Arizona, there is a petroglyph known as Prophecy Rock which symbolizes many Hopi prophecies. Its interpretation is:

The large human figure on the left is the Great Spirit. The bow in his left hand represents his instructions to the Hopi to lay down their weapons. The vertical line to the right of the Great Spirit is a time scale in thousands of years. The point at which the great Spirit touches the line is the time of his return.

The "life path" established by the Great Spirit divides into the lower, narrow path of continuous Life in harmony with nature and the wide upper road of white man's scientific achievements. The bar between the paths, above the cross, is the coming of white men; the Cross is that of Christianity. The circle below the cross represents the continuous Path of Life.

The four small human figures on the upper road represent, on one level, the past three worlds and the present; on another level, the figures indicate that some of the Hopi will travel the white man's path, having been seduced by its glamour.

The two circles on the lower Path of Life are the "great shaking of the earth" (World Wars One and Two). The swastika in the sun and the Celtic cross represent the two helpers of Pahana, the True White Brother.

The short line that returns to the straight Path of Life is the last chance for people to turn back to nature before the upper road disintegrates and dissipates. The small circle above the Path of Life, after the last chance, is the Great Purification, after which corn will grow in abundance again when the Great Spirit returns. And the Path of Life continues forever...

The Hopi shield in the lower right corner symbolizes the Earth and the Four-Corners area where the Hopi have been reserved. The arms of the cross also represent the four directions in which they migrated according to the instructions of the Great Spirit.

The dots represent the four colors of Hopi corn, and the four racial colors of humanity.
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Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:27 pm

I'm not quite sure what to make of a lot of this but feel there is something there. I have a friend that is close to Miriam in that they chat from time to time and we've, my friend and I, discussed her only briefly. This the first time I've read the info in the OP and it sounds a lot like what I've read before, with the exception of one peculiar item that I will share here. Miriam wrote:

The journey leads me back to my hometown where both my sister and I remember an event in 1970 where the aliens gave me a gift to bury. We both remember we were to keep it hidden from our father.


I've shared the following link here before, so it's nothing new.

http://www.ufobc.ca/Beyond/asimilarencounter.htm

In my note to Kevin, which was really correspondence meant for him alone and never meant for publication - The "I wanted to share with you all" was not written by me - I ended the note with:

I recall that I visited that clearing with my little brothers and sisters in tow and recall that together we created a small circle of stones and boulders in this clearing. It had the distinct shape and feel of a fairy ring. I also recall burying something under one of the stones but don't recall what or if it is related."


I do not recall meeting "Tall Blond Aliens". Rather, in my experience, I stood before a "Master of the Universe".

FWIW,

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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:33 pm

Thanks teamdaemon


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Postby anothershamus » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:35 pm

Project Camelot is another site that mirrors the prophecies of the blue star folks. Explore the site and you can see all the people that have come together to pool their knowledge and share strategies for survival.

http://www.projectcamelot.net/index.html


Mission statement here: http://projectcamelot.org/mission.html

• Our focus includes but is not limited to the following:
• extraterrestrial visitation and contact
• time travel
• mind control
• classified advanced technology
• free energy
• possible coming earth changes
• revealing plans that exist to control the human race.

• To establish ‘safety in numbers’ and unite these disparate factions under an umbrella of protection for activists and ‘whistleblowers’ who may have concerns for the safety of themselves and their loved ones.

• To provide a tribute to all activists in paradigm-challenging fields who have worked for the benefit of humanity... and who have suffered or been silenced for speaking the truth.

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In Tribute:

• Many courageous, free-thinking individuals have suffered for their commitment to help humanity.

• We honor them here, and offer protection and support for those who follow in their path.

• We are dedicated to getting the truth out.

• Click here for our Tribute Page in which we honor a number of exceptional men and women who have paid the highest price for speaking the truth.

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Project Camelot...

• Enables activists in paradigm-challenging fields to make a firm statement about their work, their intentions, and their positive state of mind.

• Provides access to all forms of media. The objective is to get the truth out... and facilitate appropriate, secure publicity for all those with information to share, but who fear reprisals for their stand.
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Postby hanshan » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:16 pm

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Postby tron » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:20 pm

so wheres these safe places?....or is it just like a state of mind?
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Postby teamdaemon » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:13 pm

Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life.


I think they mean to point out that it is silly to build physical shelters against nuclear holocaust, because once that happens you're better off dead anyway.
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Postby SonicG » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:58 pm

Do regular civilians even build bomb shelters anymore? Obviously, I do not consider Dick Cheney a "regular civilian". One of the most depressing facets of Obama's escalation is the affect it will have on Pakistan. There is a direct correlation as more American troops means that Pakistan can redirect forces to the India border and Kashmir. Forget Iran- Pakistan and India have nukes and hate each other.

Better Off Dead, indeed.

A few years ago a friend in Mexico who I believe to be very close to indigenous people who are still very close to the original traditions (that is, they practice them and don't seek fanfare) told me the elders are indeed in a period of waiting...

Project Camelot: hmmm, I'm not a baby boomer but that name immediately makes me think of Kennedy and the site seems to play the "illuminati-dark forces" hoo-haa card...
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:47 pm

Wanna hear something nuts?

My birthday happens to be 12/12. Last weekend some friends called and said they were taking me out to breakfast for my big day of getting settled into middle age.

Well as it turns out, at the time, I am reading all about this Norway Spiral thing. Specifically this by Pinchbeck:

http://www.realitysandwich.com/thoughts_norway_spiral

And this, by Chris Knowles:

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2009/12/s ... art-1.html

Which led me to this precise topic. I began reading about The Blue Star.

Well, as it happens. I text the friends back asking where they would like to go for breakfast.

The reply?

"We're thinking Blue Star". There is a restaurant in town called The Blue Star.

Ah yes. Startling to be sure and I became a little frightened. Maybe I shouldn't go? How will I explain I cannot go to the Blue Star on 12/12. Too many synchs. I went anyways. It was fine.

But literally, AT THE MOMENT I was reading the words "Blue Star" in the Hopi Prophecies and seeing the number 12 everywhere in these articles, I got a text that said "BLUE STAR".

Talk about a PKD moment!
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Postby 82_28 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:06 pm

Here's another one.

Back in 2006 I went to Chicago to visit a friend. When I arrived and got settled in, we decided to go snag some drinks and eats. There was this little pub nearby that seemed closed. We poke our heads in to see if they are still serving food. The proprietor says the kitchen is closed, but he can make us a SHEPHERD'S PIE if we want one. We both laugh, it seemed very random at the time. We move on.

Fast forward about 3 months and I am back home going out for drinks with some buddies. All the while I am having some conversation via text with the same friend back in Chicago. We are talking about the randomness of things, about something. Don't quite remember.

Well me and my buddies sit down at the table and I tell the waitress that I would like to see the menu cos I'm hungry. My friend, who was a cook at a restaurant nearby, says "you should have told me you were hungry, I brought home a ton of SHEPHERD'S PIE from work".

At that moment, I feel my phone vibrate a total of three times. I glance down at it and see three texts from my friend in Chicago. Each reading:

"LIKE SHEPHERD'S PIE?"
"LIKE SHEPHERD'S PIE?"
"LIKE SHEPHERD'S PIE?"

I'm like WTF?!?!?

Did I squish dial him?

So I call him.

Did you hear what we were talking about via my phone or something?

No, he replied. We were just talking about randomness.

Very effin weird!!!!

So, now fast forward another month or two. And I am telling the above story to some other friends after party crashing a Left Behind showing at a local church. We're walking down the street, story being told all the while and my friend says, lets go into the OLD PECULIAR, another friend of ours is working there that night. We go in.

Walk up to her, in the midst of talking about my weird synch, and I ask her, "Watcha makin'?"

Her reply?

Yeah, you guessed it.

We both, literally, we both fell on the floor at the same time.

Synchs happen. That is the day I became a non-atheist.
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Postby Blue » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:30 pm

anothershamus wrote:Project Camelot is another site that mirrors the prophecies of the blue star folks. Explore the site and you can see all the people that have come together to pool their knowledge and share strategies for survival.


Oh No, anothershamus!

I discovered PC/Avalon about a year ago. Astralwalker's threads drew me into that site and I was amazed at how much interesting information was there. However after spending some time reading/listening to the interviews and forum conversations I came to the only conclusion an intelligent person could.

That place is an entertainment website. I hate to use the word "disinformation" (which they use there quite often) but it truly is. Kind of a combination of New Age Gurus on the circuit who want your money, tired old prophets who keep telling us Disclosure is soon (yeah, Steven Greer has been saying this for 15 years), paranoid End Timers, lonely hearts and well, a bunch of crazy fucks or those pretending to be.

No offense to you, anothershamus, but I don't think PC is anything remotely similar to Hopi Blue Star. It's a sad low budget pacifier for web-naives.
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Postby Penguin » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:35 am

82_28 wrote:Synchs happen. That is the day I became a non-atheist.


Yeah.
They seem to be more common among friends - ie. emotionally bonded people (at least in my experience), but sometimes you get them with complete strangers too, or of material events - ones with no human action involved, except the perceiving part. Distance also makes no difference as far as I can tell.

Once when I worked at an elderly care home, as I went there to deliver medicine, I heard a phrase in my mind. There always sat one old guy in front of the home, and he had never spoken to me before - but this time, as I approached the porch, he said aloud the exact phrase I heard 20 seconds earlier.

We had also been talking of these phenomena with my coworker just before.

A little while ago I was listening to music on my coach, quite loud, eyes closed. I went thru imagining my female rabbit jumping on my chest - and wondered whether her paws would get a good grip on my shirt. Perhaps 10 seconds later she suddenly jumps straight on top of my chest - this was also the only time shes ever done that, quite a timid little fellow she usually is.

From the "Vallee on occult films" thread - Kubrick:

Michel Ciment: In several of your previous films you seem to have had a prior interest in the facts and problems which surround the story -- the nuclear threat, space travel, the relationship between violence and the state -- which led you to Dr. Strangelove, 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange. In the case of The Shining, were you attracted first by the subject of ESP, or just by Stephen King's novel?

Stanley Kubrick: I've always been interested in ESP and the paranormal. In addition to the scientific experiments which have been conducted suggesting that we are just short of conclusive proof of its existence, I'm sure we've all had the experience of opening a book at the exact page we're looking for, or thinking of a friend a moment before they ring on the telephone. But The Shining didn't originate from any particular desire to do a film about this. The manuscript of the novel was sent to me by John Calley, of Warner Bros. I thought it was one of the most ingenious and exciting stories of the genre I had read. It seemed to strike an extraordinary balance between the psychological and the supernatural in such a way as to lead you to think that the supernatural would eventually be explained by the psychological: "Jack must be imagining these things because he's crazy". This allowed you to suspend your doubt of the supernatural until you were so thoroughly into the story that you could accept it almost without noticing.


Sorry, that seems to be a little offtopic. I have no views on the Hopi..

Courtesy of Wombaticus on yet another thread -

Wombaticus Rex wrote:"A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive."

(Albert Einstein, 1954)


I could not agree more with that.
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Postby Avalon » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:17 pm

teamdaemon wrote:The following extraordinary Hopi prophecy was first published in a mimeographed manuscript that circulated among several Methodist and Presbyterian churches in 1959. Some of the prophecies were published in 1963 by Frank Waters in The Book of the Hopi. The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958, a minister named David Young stopped to offer a ride to an Indian elder, who accepted with a nod. After riding in silence for several minutes, the Indian said:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying. Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."

The old Indian fell silent. They had arrived at his destination, and Reverend David Young stopped to let him out of the car. They never met again. Reverend Young died in 1976, so he did not live to see the further fulfillment of this remarkable prophecy.


"The white man will battle against other people in other lands"

I'm shocked. Shocked. That's really going out on a limb with that prophecy.

I don't think I'd be able to accurately transcribe a complicated series of statements like this told to me while I was driving a hitchhiker, let alone one told in perfect Wise Elderese like this.

Is there any reason to think this wasn't made up in whole or in part by David Young?
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