Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

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Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby justdrew » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:01 pm

How Brilliant Computer Scientists Solved the Bermuda Triangle Mystery
Terrence Aym Salem-News.com

Oceanographic surveyors of the sea floor in the area of the Bermuda Triangle and the North Sea region between continental Europe and Great Britain have discovered significant quantities of methane hydrates and older eruption sites.

(CHICAGO) - According to two research scientists the mystery of vanished ships and airplanes in the region dubbed "The Bermuda Triangle" has been solved.

Step aside outer space aliens, time anomalies, submerged giant Atlantean pyramids and bizarre meteorological phenomena ... the "Triangle" simply suffers from an acute case of gas.

Natural gas—the kind that heats ovens and boils water—specifically methane, is the culprit behind the mysterious disappearances and loss of water and air craft.

The evidence for this astounding new insight into a mystery that's bedeviled the world is laid out in a research paper published in the American Journal of Physics.

Professor Joseph Monaghan researched the hypothesis with honor student David May at the Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.

The two hypothesized that large methane bubbles rising from the ocean floor might account for many, if not all, of the mysterious disappearances of ships and aircraft at specific locales around the world.

Researcher Ivan T. Sanderson identified these mystery areas during the 1960s. Sanderson described the actual shape of these regions as more like a lozenge rather than a triangle. Some of the more famous spots include an area in the Sea of Japan, the North Sea, and of course the infamous "Bermuda (or Devil's) Triangle."

Oceanographic surveyors of the sea floor in the area of the Bermuda Triangle and the North Sea region between continental Europe and Great Britain have discovered significant quantities of methane hydrates and older eruption sites.


Because of the correlations and existing data, the two envisioned what would happen when gigantic methane bubbles explode from natural fissures on the seafloor.

The methane—normally frozen at great pressure as gas hydrates embedded within subterranean rock—can become dislodged and transform into gaseous bubbles expanding geometrically as they explode upwards. When these bubbles reach the surface of the water they soar into the air, still expanding upwards and outwards.

Any ships caught within the methane mega-bubble immediately lose all buoyancy and sink to the bottom of the ocean. If the bubbles are big enough and possess a high enough density they can also knock aircraft out of the sky with little or no warning. Aircraft falling victim to these methane bubbles will lose their engines-perhaps igniting the methane surrounding them-and immediately lose their lift as well, ending their flights by diving into the ocean and swiftly plummeting.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:39 am

Well, I saw that hypothesis on a program about the Bermuda Triangle years ago and found it compelling. Is this news because they have now proved it? Has it been proved?
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby justdrew » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:14 am

Pele'sDaughter wrote:Well, I saw that hypothesis on a program about the Bermuda Triangle years ago and found it compelling. Is this news because they have now proved it? Has it been proved?


I guess they've found evidence of the old methane blows.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:04 pm

That's fascinating. But it doesn't explain the compass or electrical anomalies, does it? I had a Bermuda Triangle experience back in the mid-70s and watching the yacht's compass spinning wildly was absolutely terrifying. Especially since both of the big engines had suddenly broken down and we were dead in the water. (my memory's telling me they were Rolls Royce engines--is that possible?) And neither radio was working--a lot of the electronics were simply dead. Eventually one engine came back to life and we limped back to Miami late that night. Terrifying day :(

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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby Sepka » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:13 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:That's fascinating. But it doesn't explain the compass or electrical anomalies, does it? I had a Bermuda Triangle experience back in the mid-70s and watching the yacht's compass spinning wildly was absolutely terrifying. Especially since both of the big engines had suddenly broken down and we were dead in the water. (my memory's telling me they were Rolls Royce engines--is that possible?) And neither radio was working--a lot of the electronics were simply dead. Eventually one engine came back to life and we limped back to Miami late that night. Terrifying day :(

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Could you tell more? What was the weather like, what sort of boat, what sort of electronics affected, etc? Were your engines diesel, gasoline or turbine, or do you recall? Rolls Royce is entirely possible as the engine-maker. Their chief line of business is in aviation and marine engines anymore - the cars are just a high profile sideline.

I'm sorry to be so forward (and I hope you'll not mind), but I've never had a chance to talk to someone who's been through that before.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby justdrew » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:22 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:That's fascinating. But it doesn't explain the compass or electrical anomalies, does it? I had a Bermuda Triangle experience back in the mid-70s and watching the yacht's compass spinning wildly was absolutely terrifying. Especially since both of the big engines had suddenly broken down and we were dead in the water. (my memory's telling me they were Rolls Royce engines--is that possible?) And neither radio was working--a lot of the electronics were simply dead. Eventually one engine came back to life and we limped back to Miami late that night. Terrifying day :(

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yeah, it's one of those "solved" in as much as it doesn't really answer everything but makes for a good headline. I can't help but wonder if the timing of this nearly-non-story has something to do with a certain other source of methane.

I was a kid at the time but always found the Bermuda triangle especially fascinating for some reason. Never have managed to get any where near it. Sounds like you had a real close call.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:34 pm

My memories of that day are regrettably spotty, unfortunately. Due to my tendency to handle stress/fear by dissociating, I have "snapshot" memories of it--a snippet of experience here and there in a sea of blankness. Sort of like time-lapse photography with most of the frames missing.

I have no clue what the engines ran on or the brand of boat, I'm afraid, except that it was a fairly typical (but well-appointed) smallish yacht of the era--if it had been in any way exceptional, believe me, the braggart young stockbroker owner would have bent our ears about it :roll: And this guy was all about status, so there was nothing cheap about it (hence the Rolls Royce engines, I guess). The weather was gorgeous--hot, sunny and breezy. And the jerk boat owner was a S Florida native and had a fair amount of experience with boats--knew how to go about fixing most common engine problems and carried all the tools and supplies to do repairs with at all times. Also spare radios, gear, etc.

That spinning compass is an image I will unfortunately probably carry to my grave. It was a large, fancy compass--black with white markings inside of a liquid-filled clear case--attached to the wood-paneled area where all the gauges and the wheel were located. And it was spinning wildly--never stopping, just occasionally reversing direction. The terror of being WAY out to sea, totally out of sight of land and with no means but the sun of figuring direction is difficult for me to describe. I was in a state of panic. I nearly drowned as a toddler and have a deep fear of large bodies of water, too.

It didn't help that our host's gorgeous girlfriend (a young airline stewardess) and I had a long chat huddled together up on deck (while the guys muttered over the engines down below) and she told me about an anomaly she'd seen once in the same area that had scared her silly (not that she had all that far to go--not the brightest crayon in the box :wink:): the pilots of a routine flight from the Bahamas (I think) to Miami had called her up into the cockpit one day and told her to look down at the surface of the sea off to one side. To her amazement, she saw a *hole* in the water--! A huge one. No air disturbance at all--just a humongous empty hole that she was unable to clearly see the bottom of, since they passed over it pretty quickly.

I asked her how large it was and she struggled to come up with measurements, so I asked how large a boat or ship would have fit into it. She brightened up immediately and said, "Oh, an aircraft carrier. Not the biggest ones, but an 'ordinary-sized' one." (They docked at S Florida ports quite often and most coastal residents had seen them and even toured one). That's BIG. The thought of our comparatively tiny boat dropping into such a gap in the water terrified me to the point of dissociation and I don't remember any more of that conversation, unfortunately. Damn shame, since the vibe I got from her was of complete truthfulness--not exaggeration or conflation at all.

Wish I could remember more details, but that's the gist. It was a totally inexplicable experience, but since then I've tended to believe the bizarre tales told about that area. There's something there that's just not like normal reality. And it's not friendly to mechanical things in general or to radios in particular.

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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby Laodicean » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:25 pm

So...Earth "farts" is the theory? Mmm. Never thought the BT would be the asshole of the world. Heh.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:58 am

justdrew wrote:yeah, it's one of those "solved" in as much as it doesn't really answer everything but makes for a good headline. I can't help but wonder if the timing of this nearly-non-story has something to do with a certain other source of methane.


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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby pepsified thinker » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:14 am

Not only does this story serve to normalize the BP spill, it also plays on the general theme of 'natural' releases of carbon/greenhouse gasses--so that Global Warming/Climate Change as a human-caused phenom is muddied.

Lillypat, that story of the hole in the water fits with the Charybdis side of the Scylla/Charybdis 'myth'. Interesting--and would've been terrifying to see that hole or to have been on the boat in the situation you describe.
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Re: Bermuda Triangle - solved (?)

Postby LilyPatToo » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:42 pm

That's really interesting, pepsified thinker--thank you. Until now, I've never had any point of reference for puzzling out that awful day on the Atlantic or, especially, for the flight attendant's bizarre experience. My skeptical friends just write off the mechanical breakdowns as a series of coincidences, but they openly scoff at the girl's story. I don't. She may not have been blessed with a tremendous intellect, but she'd shown herself to be very down to earth (pun unavoidable with a flight attendant--sorry :wink: ), honest and had never breathed a single word about any other woo-woo experiences, so my inclination has always been to accept her at her word. I'd love to talk to pilots who routinely fly that route and see if any will admit to having seen anything weird there...

Strange things DO happen in certain places and knee-jerk skepticism in no way serves to answer the questions those events provoke. So it gets on my nerves. I understand how deeply frightening some anomalies can be to people and how tempting it must be to write them off with an impatient sneer. But I survived that day and I have a lot of questions about WTF happened to us. I'm intrigued by the "methane burp" theory, but it doesn't explain my experience, so I'm still open to suggestions.

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Re: Bermuda Triangle was a DECOY

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:22 am

Nope, not gas. Another refined economic product: HEROIN.

The 'Bermuda Triangle' W.O.O. was whipped up about planes and boats back when
the Golden Triangle was the CIA's new source of funds from drugs during the Vietnam War.

There were also many missing planes in Cambodia and Laos that were disavowed by the CIA and Pentagon with crews that became the left-behind POW-MIAs, a major cover-up.
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