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Re: suss website

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:43 pm

82_28 wrote:I wish my thoughts would start getting read, it would make my life a hell of a lot easier. Nobody ever knows what I'm talking about.


Your first post in this thread was a video from Blazing Saddles.

On the second page, you threw a lot of questions at this Jeremy character and he answered them, in detail.

I've gotta ask -- do you have any experience in this end of the pool or are you just playing pattern recognition games with what you've read online? Because to my eyes, there's an interesting, important conversation going between Project Willow and Jeremy, and your posts have been about as helpful as Hugh's.
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Re: suss website

Postby 82_28 » Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:54 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:
82_28 wrote:I wish my thoughts would start getting read, it would make my life a hell of a lot easier. Nobody ever knows what I'm talking about.


Your first post in this thread was a video from Blazing Saddles.

On the second page, you threw a lot of questions at this Jeremy character and he answered them, in detail.

I've gotta ask -- do you have any experience in this end of the pool or are you just playing pattern recognition games with what you've read online? Because to my eyes, there's an interesting, important conversation going between Project Willow and Jeremy, and your posts have been about as helpful as Hugh's.


Wombat, there are many posts and comments by me over my stint here describing my own personal history with mental illness. I thought we had this wrapped up and I was interjecting just a bit of humor into something I bet makes some people nervous. The song popped up on pandora, as I said. It was a light hearted post. As for Blazing Saddles, I have included that clip a number of times when I post a comment to a thread I do not get and feel it may go somewhere scary. Jeremy's shit, frankly, scared me. Not because it's not true or is true, but because as for myself, I cannot tell the difference between schizophrenia and being the victim of directed and personal psy-ops. I have lived with a fear of turning schizophrenic from a very young age. I am sorry I did not make this clear. I feel I made some cases for myself and for people like me. I also do not feel that I interfered with Willow and Jeremy's discussion. Sorry, I couldn't help with the discussion, however, though I did make some comments in all seriousness, my attempts at lightening the situation were somewhat flatfooted.

In other words, I think that the ratio of importance in having a site filled with certitude and references to the likelihood of one being targeted does not outweigh the dangers it represents to those predisposed to believing it though they are of no interest to these agents of fear. While we know that certainly both exist, both TIs and schizophrenia, the difference between the two is indistinguishable to one ripe for both/neither/either to happen to them. Once it does happen, without a strong place of unconditional love and strength many people can become obsessed with a reality that does not exist. As for myself, I can certainly get far too deep into most any kind of a mind fuck, but I have learned to live with the feeling of weirdness one gets who is very susceptible to fear and panic and can enjoy it -- though it most definitely is not enjoyable. Occam's razor, love from my family and friends has shown me that this is only creativity. Those without the love I required may not wind up so lucky. This is who I am vicariously, theoretically looking out for, as I know how utter debilitating fear and confusion feels to the point of depersonalization for months on end. If you're looking out for people and trying to educate them, you don't methodically describe the same symptoms of schizophrenia while also giving them no recourse as to how to solve their stalking problem by shadowy agents with high tech devices and baffling psychological techniques.

I have played in this side of the pool, or I should say, people close to me have "played" in it. I was raised to know that there will always be someone to run to under any circumstances. As I've grown older, I tend to have taken on those characteristics myself. One thing my dad does when shit gets really bad or freaky is he laughs. A kind of nervous laugh. A laugh that says, Jesus Christ we're fucked, but what are we gonna do? We may as well laugh. At least we have each other for this short time on Earth. Apologies if humor doesn't help in tight situations for others. I can only write and converse as I do.
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Re: suss website

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:30 am

Wombaticus Rex wrote:...Because to my eyes, there's an interesting, important conversation going between Project Willow and Jeremy, and your posts have been about as helpful as Hugh's.


No need to get snooty, Herr Wombat
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Re: suss website

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:58 am

Clearly not, that was an excellent reply. Schizophobia is kind of fascinating in it's own right. Point withdrawn.
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Re: suss website

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:31 am

[I think the areyoubeingtargeted website is one of the most sophisticated psyops websites I've read.
I think that is because boards like this are figuring out what psyops is and how it works.

It elaborately delineates *some* tactics that are very real but juxtaposes them with meant-to-be-noticed W.O.O.
It is a boobytrap of incredulity for future whistleblowers who really are targeted for discrediting and being tricked into lobster traps of intellectual containment.

Classic spook work. As we become more knowledgeable, They raise the psyops bar.

BUT, somehow Jeff always keeps on a mod who just can't find CIA psyops...like professorpan and barracuda.
Know what a tripwire is? Or a honeypot? Find out.
CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
...
Disney is CIA for kidz!
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Re: suss website

Postby barracuda » Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:35 am

It seems more like he tries to keep people around who can spot bullshit when they see it. Why? Find out.
The most dangerous traps are the ones you set for yourself. - Phillip Marlowe
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Re: suss website

Postby Project Willow » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:16 am

82_28 wrote:...
While we know that certainly both exist, both TIs and schizophrenia, the difference between the two is indistinguishable to one ripe for both/neither/either to happen to them. Once it does happen, without a strong place of unconditional love and strength many people can become obsessed with a reality that does not exist. As for myself, I can certainly get far too deep into most any kind of a mind fuck, but I have learned to live with the feeling of weirdness one gets who is very susceptible to fear and panic and can enjoy it -- though it most definitely is not enjoyable.


82, the fact is we should have teams or reams of folks and/or entire fields of study at universities dedicated to mapping out the distinguishing experiential features between schizophrenia, auditory anomalies, electronic manipulation, symptoms of torture-based mind control conditioning (including unique presentations of DID), and other medical conditions. However, as should be readily obvious, civilian science plus the NGO/human rights infrastructure that might provide impetus and funding in opposition, are about 5 decades behind CIA/military/corporate research, operational technology, and financial support for manipulating the human mind. As an answer to your concerns, even though it might not be immediately comforting, I can say fairly confidently, having been thrown into the mind control end of the pool as a tadpole, I do believe that one day it will not only possible to delineate such distinguishing features, but more than likely necessary in order to save portions of the human race from living lives of perpetual unwitting slavery.

IOW, try not to worry, and throw us a bone, some manual labor, or a dollar or two next time your local human experimentation advocacy group requests assistance. Thanks! :wink

Wombat, it appears you have pms disabled. If I disable pms, will I still get grumpy every month? (Yeah, I know, that was bad, I have my father's sense of humor, that asshole.)
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Re: suss website

Postby elfismiles » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:43 am

Still parsing this ...

C2W are you suggesting "jeremypsyops" posts at CCHR.org or that areyoutargeted.com fronts / funnels for CCHR/Co$ the way you showed that Duff / VeteransToday funnels folks to Mil/Security/Mortgage groups ?

compared2what? wrote:
....

What really piques my interest is actually this:

The Hacktivist wrote:A very nice poster 'jeremypsyops' joined the diiscussion, it was his website in question, and he started some very good discussion about a particular thing, TI's as it were, and then boom, out of nowhere...[etcetera]
.

Because the funny thing is: Once you shook all the TI flourishes off the (very dangerous, irresponsible and oddly impersonally unpersuasive) website that was in question, it turned out that it too was fundamentally a gateway site through which some number of unsuspecting people might easily slip unknowingly into more broadly anti-psychiatry (and specifically anti-meds) pastures of activism. Such as the Scientology front group for such things, the CCHR. Because jeremypsyops either is the guy named on the opening page of his site (no names, no linkage, sorry) or he and that guy just happen to have identical backstories.

Oh. And did I forget to say "that guy who also posts to CCHR and belongs to another equally rabidly anti-meds group that bases 98 percent of its argument on CCHR-produced material?" Because that's what I meant.

But I'm sure that it's just a coincidence that this thread then promptly came along presenting yet another very well-veiled -- and much more seemingly legitimate -- opportunity for anti-psych rabble-rousing. Right? And also a coincidence that it hastened, pronto, to go in exactly that direction.

Which is, after all, far from the only way it might have gone. I mean, personally, I'm much more interested in the anarcho stuff. Which has its cons as well as its pros in practice just like everything else does, of course. But it's very interesting in theory and sometimes in practice, too.

Oh, well. I guess that anti-psychiatry is just the new anti-Semitism black for some synchronistic reason.

BTW, I just wanted to mention that one time, since I noticed it. But it ain't no thing to me, really. As long as people treat each other nice and gentle.

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Re: suss website

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:04 pm

http://www.google.com/search?pws=0&q=jeremypsyops

Unless CCHR.org hides their forum index....nope.
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Re: suss website

Postby Project Willow » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:16 pm

Lacter, E. & Lehman, K. (2008). Guidelines to Differential Diagnosis between Schizophrenia and Ritual Abuse/Mind Control Traumatic Stress. In J.R. Noblitt & P. Perskin (Eds.), Ritual Abuse in the Twenty-first Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social and Political Considerations, pp. 85-154. Oregon: Robert D. Reed Publishers.

More info on Ellen's website: (which has been prettied-up of late :tiphat:)

http://endritualabuse.org/
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Re: suss website

Postby IanEye » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:50 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:http://www.google.com/search?pws=0&q=jeremypsyops

Unless CCHR.org hides their forum index....nope.



Perhaps c2w wanted us to research this name:

Image

Perhaps not...
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Re: suss website

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:17 pm

^^Thanks.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28932432@N05/

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... outargeted

Peter Rosenholm talking about Jeremy:
http://groups.google.com/group/ffchs-da ... c434?pli=1

Just so you know in Wisconsin the father of a young man who was
shot by police had already put up a billboard simply showing a gun
pointed at you and saying, "Should police be allowed to judge
themselves", and below, "Brought to you by the family of Michael
Bell", with their website MichaelBell.com. The billboard consisted of
a gray background with black lettering. The issue was I believe that
Wisconsin is the last state where the police judge themselves in
criminal cases not the court system. The father did win a civil law
suit. The unfortunate part was that along with the son dying an
officer who was involved in a possible cover-up committed suicide.
It created a big stir and there were news conferences. This is the
goal of Ken and the other TIs who have worked on this project, to
bring attention to the plight of all of us.
The web site on the sign is, "areyoutargeted.com". Jeremy stated
that he has beefed up his web site and is ready for the possible
increase in traffic.

It may well be one day that we can have a phone manned 24/7 like
other crisis centers. The government is a many headed beast they may
even fund it if enough attention is brought to what is happening to
us.
We still need donations so this can keep going. It isn't who gets
the recognition it is a matter of bringing public awareness to our
situation and ending it.
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Re: suss website

Postby elfismiles » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:19 pm

IanEye wrote:
Wombaticus Rex wrote:http://www.google.com/search?pws=0&q=jeremypsyops

Unless CCHR.org hides their forum index....nope.



Perhaps c2w wanted us to research this name:

Image

Perhaps not...


That's probably what she meant ...

Commented on this post at CCHRint.org
http://www.cchrint.org/2009/11/16/antip ... d-strokes/

Listed as member on this "Children & Adults Against Drugging America" site where another member happens to list CCHR as their website
http://www.chaada.org/MemberList.html

But is that enough for the accusation? :shrug:
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Re: suss website

Postby barracuda » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:17 pm

Hmm. It just occurred to me that jeremypsyops joined the forum as a member on December 19th, and the OP was posted on the 21st, three days later. Pretty good timing. Maybe there is something to this whole mind-reading thing after all...
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Re: suss website

Postby Simulist » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:32 pm

Very interesting, Mr. B.
"The most strongly enforced of all known taboos is the taboo against knowing who or what you really are behind the mask of your apparently separate, independent, and isolated ego."
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