Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

[stickdog99]

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the- ... hypothesis

the vaccinated superspread hypothesis

assessing the riddle of more recovered, more vaccinated, and more dying despite a lower CFR variant

Please go to substack for a plethora of charts. links and graphs.

[Belligerent Savant]

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1439 ... 55879.html

Robert W Malone, MD

Spent the evening with a group of Portuguese health care providers and policy influencers. One of the hot topics was the apparent jump in sudden death (cardiac, cerebral vascular events) leading to car crashes, death on the street etc. - associated with recent receipt of vaccine.

This is a great example of why "all cause" mortality needs to be monitored and analyzed carefully. Because there can be unanticipated deaths associated with a treatment which otherwise are judged to be unrelated. Who would imagine a vaccine being related to car crashes?

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[Harvey]

how did we get to a place where such outrages seem "normal"?
and how a populace can take back its just rights

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/how- ... where-such

Good read.

Sure but did you read this part?

(T)he fascists of the 30’s were left wing, not right. they sought to control society and its morals “for its own betterment.” the term “totalitarianism” was coined and used as a positive. such imposed control was presented as ethical and righteous.
Benito Mussolini quote: All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against...

the state guided the economy AND the morality. it maps so perfectly to “woke” and the socialist ideas of “build back better” and the authoritarian instincts of the opportunists using covid as a pretext to grab and exert power that no serious student of history could miss it.

Is this shit for real?

[drstrangelove]

how did we get to a place where such outrages seem "normal"?
and how a populace can take back its just rights

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/how- ... where-such

Good read.

Sure but did you read this part?

(T)he fascists of the 30’s were left wing, not right. they sought to control society and its morals “for its own betterment.” the term “totalitarianism” was coined and used as a positive. such imposed control was presented as ethical and righteous.
Benito Mussolini quote: All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against...

the state guided the economy AND the morality. it maps so perfectly to “woke” and the socialist ideas of “build back better” and the authoritarian instincts of the opportunists using covid as a pretext to grab and exert power that no serious student of history could miss it.

Is this shit for real?

Any neophyte to political science knows fascism was right wing totalitarianism, communism was left wing totalitarianism.

There are alot of stereotypes of leftwingers that hold up, but generally speaking, one that holds up for right wingers is a lack of basic understanding for history and general confusion over the use of and meaning of the words they use to communicate. Not that they are stupid, but the academic estate, the good ones anyway, are left leaning. History is theoretical knowledge and understanding one can only attain through books. Watching YouTube documentaries won't get one there.

[Laodicean]

You boys need a good recall of memory.



https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/ ... e-unvaxxed

[Joe Hillshoist]

how did we get to a place where such outrages seem "normal"?
and how a populace can take back its just rights

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/how- ... where-such

Good read.

There is alot wrong with that article but the most important thing is that the incident on video happened in a city where they grew up playing Aussie Rules not rugby!!! FFS that is fundamental.

australia bas been, frankly, surreal this year. the speed and surety with which they have gone from a rights based society to overt military occupation, mass house arrest, internment camps, and astounding levels of dictatorship has, i think, surprised everyone.

LOL.

There is no mass house arrest. There is no overt military occupation.

This was the other day when the state government in Victoria (Melbourne, an aussie rules town not rugby!, where that riot happened) said people in building sites couldn't use tea rooms to eat in because of the COVID risk.



This is a safety issue on building sites which are dangerous places. Tea rooms and sheds are safe spaces (lol) in that you're unlikely to get brained when someone twelve stories up drops a hammer.

So the construction workers (tradespeople, usually qualified after a three or four year apoprenticeship) with the support of their union decided to eat lunch in the middle of the streets and block whatever traffic was using those streets. No one got shot, no one got arrested, tho a few people probably got annoyed at having to wait for them to finish their meals or smoko breaks.

Astounding levels of dictatorship.

And there are no internment camps right now. tho we do have them. For refugees and asylum seekers. But they aren't a new thing in response to COVID. We've been treating those people like shit for decades.

[Laodicean]

And there are no internment camps right now. tho we do have them.

[Laodicean]

Dedicated to the Lady in Red from Melbourne, Australia.

[drstrangelove]

So what happened?

And where were youse? I used to live in Richmond. Jeeze I used to get up to alot of no good back then. Soime good too.

Anyway what happened?

On the video I saw there

Yesterday the state government spent half a million dollars in operations costs and pooled police from all over the state to concentrate their force in shutting down the CBD.

On top of this, they shut down the entire public transport network leading into the city - buses, trams, trains. Road block checkpoints were set up at every artery leading in, backing up traffic for Kilometers causing up to two hour wait times as police checker the passengers of every vehicle passing through the city.

In the days leading up to the 18th, our police commissioner was fire and brimstone about, not the intention of containing protest, but completely suppressing it. It was very clear he was out for retribution over what happened last month, when the police lost control of the CBD, a pivotal moment being protestors charging successfully through police lines. It was clear that public safety was not the primary objective, but retribution and the reestablishment of police authority beyond their real power. The latter is a fair enough objective, the former just reckless.

Anyway, they shut the CBD down successfully, since they shut it down completely for everyone, not just the protesters. Which ironically did the protesters job for them.

So instead of going into the city, which the police had conveniently disrupted the public order of themselves, protesters gathered in an inner suburb just outside the police checkpoints.

Cops then scrambled at the last minute to transport themselves from the CBD to Richmond. I was on my way to Richmond when they were doing this. They had private charter buses full of cops because they didn't have enough cars.

Cops clearly had orders to break protesters into small groups, corral those groups, and then arrest them systematically until the protest itself had been completely suppressed. Only problem was that they hadn't planned to do this in Richmond, which has alleys and side streets making such a task a logistical nightmare.

Most of the afternoon I just watched cops jogging back and forth, from point a to point b. When they would get a pincer on a group of protesters, the protesters would just disperse down side streets and then meet up again. Chaos > order disorganisation has its merits.

The point in the video you've seen is where a contingent of protestors were leaving Richmond in a group and for some reason, maybe the police lead them into it, paraded themselves down a gorge with obviously no way out but forwards or the way they came in.

Anyway, instead of letting them leave, the police blocked them in. This would've been fine, given what they were trying to achieve, which was some news footage of them arresting all these people and holding a triumphant news conference the next day about how the movement had been defeated, if they had the force to so do. However, they attempted to do this without the required amount of force, probably because they couldn't get enough cops quick enough to block off the exit.

So some dumb fuck of a commanding officer thought it would be a good idea to block in the protestors, not with police force, but with police authority, which isn't real.

Police authority only works if you give protestors an alternative, like a side street to escape down. But since they were in a gorge, and since police authority does not equal police force, this happened:

https://twitter.com/chelsea_hetho/statu ... 6746973184

And this is nothing other than a demonstration of the REAL power relationship between police force and society. The cops were so upset they even lashed out at a 70 year old women in the aftermath: https://twitter.com/Joel_Agius1/status/ ... 0330159107


Whichever commanding cop gave the order for those officers to hold that frontline should lose their job. Those cops are lucky they got away with broken bones.

This weekend was another moral victory for the protest movement here. Morale is not so much a factor these days, so much as hatred is. An escalation of violence must be met by both sides.

Things will only escalate from here is my sense. Anyone who wears a police uniform needs to recognise that they are no longer protected by their authority, the real power relationship is changing. This is why we see conflict. The police refuse to accept it. And so they go to hospital and reflect on it.

[Joe Hillshoist]

That image above is typical of what happened across building sites in Melbourne. Where is the army?

Its not about vaccine or mask mandates either. They just want their tea rooms back.

LOL.

BTW Those cops who pepper sprayed that woman can get fucked.

There is video of them walking past her as she lay on the ground and they spray her face and keep walking. She wasn't a threat or anything like that. Typical cops tho. That is the attitude black people in the US and here have copped forever for those of you that don't know. When I was a young man I'd pick fruit in the Riverina (an area of the East Coast) and would always stop and ask the local blackfellas where the dodgy cops who hung people were then make sure I wasn't working in those towns.

many have wondered just how you get police to act like this. how do you turn them into agents of tyranny and not just willing but zealous assailants of their own neighbors? how do you turn “protect and serve” into “attack and subjugate”?

D'uh, you send them to the police academy. Who the fuck is writing this?

the state guided the economy AND the morality. it maps so perfectly to “woke” and the socialist ideas of “build back better” and the authoritarian instincts of the opportunists using covid as a pretext to grab and exert power that no serious student of history could miss it.

and it’s not just covid, though covid is the convenient pretext. it’s “domestic terrorism.” it’s “white supremacy.” it’s “climate deniers” and “evil people who believe in biological gender.”

Rightio, some whiney crypto bitch who'll be the first to run in a REAL fight.

[Joe Hillshoist]

And there are no internment camps right now. tho we do have them.

Yeah its a disgrace. There are about 2000 people locked up right now.

But those facilities are for refugees not "people".

The campaigner writing that article obviously couldn't give a fuck about people in our actual internment camps.

What they showed in that video are quarantine centres that haven't been opened yet. People arriving in the country will have to stay in them for up to three weeks and be tested to prove they are free of COVID. Then they can go do what they want. I don't have a problem with this. Its better than what happens now where people arriving in the country stay in hotels in the CBD of major cities. Every major outbreak of COVID we have had, and as a result every lockdown, is because that hotel quarantine system is not up to the job. Its only taken 18 months, thousands of deaths and who knows how much economic damage before the federal government decided to act on its responsibility to properly manage quarantine.

BTW No one here should have a problem with proper quarantine. We're an island thousands of miles from the rest of the world. Quarantine failure fucks our produce, introduces diseases that damage crops, livestock and domestic animals and in the past we quarantined arrivals for medical reasons as well. If we had a proper quarantine set up a year ago then right now we wouldn't have COVID in Australia.

I know plenty of people who have been in quarantine too, its a shitful thing being isolated and a PITA but they all put up with it for a fortnight then went home.

I think most of them would have preferred that facility near Alice cos its not a tiny hotel room in a city with no chance to go outside.

[Joe Hillshoist]

So what happened?

And where were youse? I used to live in Richmond. Jeeze I used to get up to alot of no good back then. Soime good too.

Anyway what happened?

On the video I saw there

Yesterday the state government spent half a million dollars in operations costs and pooled police from all over the state to concentrate their force in shutting down the CBD.

On top of this, they shut down the entire public transport network leading into the city - buses, trams, trains. Road block checkpoints were set up at every artery leading in, backing up traffic for Kilometers causing up to two hour wait times as police checker the passengers of every vehicle passing through the city.

In the days leading up to the 18th, our police commissioner was fire and brimstone about, not the intention of containing protest, but completely suppressing it. It was very clear he was out for retribution over what happened last month, when the police lost control of the CBD, a pivotal moment being protestors charging successfully through police lines. It was clear that public safety was not the primary objective, but retribution and the reestablishment of police authority beyond their real power. The latter is a fair enough objective, the former just reckless.

Anyway, they shut the CBD down successfully, since they shut it down completely for everyone, not just the protesters. Which ironically did the protesters job for them.

So instead of going into the city, which the police had conveniently disrupted the public order of themselves, protesters gathered in an inner suburb just outside the police checkpoints.

Cops then scrambled at the last minute to transport themselves from the CBD to Richmond. I was on my way to Richmond when they were doing this. They had private charter buses full of cops because they didn't have enough cars.

Cops clearly had orders to break protesters into small groups, corral those groups, and then arrest them systematically until the protest itself had been completely suppressed. Only problem was that they hadn't planned to do this in Richmond, which has alleys and side streets making such a task a logistical nightmare.

Most of the afternoon I just watched cops jogging back and forth, from point a to point b. When they would get a pincer on a group of protesters, the protesters would just disperse down side streets and then meet up again. Chaos > order disorganisation has its merits.

The point in the video you've seen is where a contingent of protestors were leaving Richmond in a group and for some reason, maybe the police lead them into it, paraded themselves down a gorge with obviously no way out but forwards or the way they came in.

Anyway, instead of letting them leave, the police blocked them in. This would've been fine, given what they were trying to achieve, which was some news footage of them arresting all these people and holding a triumphant news conference the next day about how the movement had been defeated, if they had the force to so do. However, they attempted to do this without the required amount of force, probably because they couldn't get enough cops quick enough to block off the exit.

So some dumb fuck of a commanding officer thought it would be a good idea to block in the protestors, not with police force, but with police authority, which isn't real.

Police authority only works if you give protestors an alternative, like a side street to escape down. But since they were in a gorge, and since police authority does not equal police force, this happened:

https://twitter.com/chelsea_hetho/statu ... 6746973184

And this is nothing other than a demonstration of the REAL power relationship between police force and society. The cops were so upset they even lashed out at a 70 year old women in the aftermath: https://twitter.com/Joel_Agius1/status/ ... 0330159107


Whichever commanding cop gave the order for those officers to hold that frontline should lose their job. Those cops are lucky they got away with broken bones.

This weekend was another moral victory for the protest movement here. Morale is not so much a factor these days, so much as hatred is. An escalation of violence must be met by both sides.

Things will only escalate from here is my sense. Anyone who wears a police uniform needs to recognise that they are no longer protected by their authority, the real power relationship is changing. This is why we see conflict. The police refuse to accept it. And so they go to hospital and reflect on it.

Victorian cops are cunts. I remember there was a riot near there many decades ago when the Kennett Government closed Richmond secondary College - a public high school that catered for people with various issues and turned it into a Private Girls School. There was an occupation and they kept on holding classes for the students and eventually the cops showed up and attacked everyone, including the little old ladies who were there. They would grab women in their fifties using pressure point holds on their necks and below their ears. Naturally we took offense to that and things escalated.

That was 1993, when the Vic cops would shoot people on a whim.

http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/ ... 996/42.pdf

[drstrangelove]

Well, the people are fighting back Joey! Now, I don't condone this, but I also don't condemn it if ya get my drift:

https://mobile.twitter.com/osler78/stat ... 4553994241

[Joe Hillshoist]

lol its Jed Anderson in disguise.

[Joe Hillshoist]

You boys need a good recall of memory.



https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/ ... e-unvaxxed

There is alot in that article that is worth repeating.

Not all of it but alot.