Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:37 pm


panel of experts discussing, among other things, how the vaccinated have destroyed their natural immune systems.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:53 pm

MacCruiskeen » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:08 am wrote: This is itself confusionism. It's a trivial truth that governments spread and encourage nonsense and disinfo in order to distract people's attention from verifiable evidence and discredit it by association. The BBC deploys that tactic every day. ("Look! This fat ugly guy with a swastika tattoo thinks our governments are lying to us about 9/11! This daft old lady with 38 cats thinks the COVID-19 threat is exaggerated! Do you want to be like THEM?")

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The problem is not epistemological but political.


When you're right...

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Yes, the most defenceless, the most marginalised and the least powerful are just like Hitler.
And while we spoke of many things, fools and kings
This he said to me
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:48 pm

Yep, Jaco-Bin, Vera Sharaf is just like Hitler, as is the man who founded this board:

@JeffWellsRigInt
They weaponized a cold virus, optimized a health crisis, captured regulatory agencies, subcontracted the world's most corrupt companies, rewrote dictionaries, killed hundreds of thousands and sent tens of millions into internal exile, thus far.

They must have a good reason.
4:22 pm. · 28. Nov. 2021·


As are the people of Guadeloupe:

"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:01 pm

Harvey » 28 Nov 2021 21:53 wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:08 am wrote: This is itself confusionism. It's a trivial truth that governments spread and encourage nonsense and disinfo in order to distract people's attention from verifiable evidence and discredit it by association. The BBC deploys that tactic every day. ("Look! This fat ugly guy with a swastika tattoo thinks our governments are lying to us about 9/11! This daft old lady with 38 cats thinks the COVID-19 threat is exaggerated! Do you want to be like THEM?")

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The problem is not epistemological but political.


When you're right...

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Yes, the most defenceless, the most marginalised and the least powerful are just like Hitler.


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:10 pm

Romania:

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Latvia:

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Switzerland:

@AnonCitizenUK

John Bosnić explains in a private video how a low metal barricade on a street in Switzerland protects the jabbed from the unjabbed. The circus continues… [FILM, 39s]

https://twitter.com/AnonCitizenUK/statu ... 9392969729


Follow the circus, follow TheScience™. Orders are orders.

USA:

Lord Fauci responds to his critics with a warning:

"They're really criticizing science because I represent science. That's dangerous."

Germany:

The incoming Green-Social Democrat-Liberal coalition government is set to appoint Major-General Carsten Breuer to lead the nation's new Emergency Task Force.

"Der 56-Jährige ist Kommandeur des Kommandos Territoriale Aufgaben der Bundeswehr, das für Einsätze der Streitkräfte im Inland zuständig ist." ("The 56.year-old is the Army's Commander of Territorial Assignments, which is responsible for missions on domestic soil.")

Gladio's coming home.

"Do you want Total War on the KIller Dots?" "Führer Science™ command, we'll follow!"

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What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:54 am

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Welcome to New Normal Germany! The shop window in the photo on the [top] reads "Unvaccinated unwelcome." The signs in the photo on the [bottom] are from Germany in the 1930s. You can probably figure those out yourself.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:56 am

"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:53 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:54 pm wrote:.


@consent_factory
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Welcome to New Normal Germany! The shop window in the photo on the [top] reads "Unvaccinated unwelcome." The signs in the photo on the [bottom] are from Germany in the 1930s. You can probably figure those out yourself.

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It is painfully disgusting to compare current public health measures with the Holocaust.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:59 pm

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The holocaust? No, that's not at all what those images depict. They are depicting similar sentiment from 2 different time periods. It's an indication of a rekindling of certain mindsets. Absolutely pertinent and relevant.

"public health measures", ffs. It's clear by now that current measures are not driven by "health" concerns.

Please, convince us otherwise.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:24 pm

PufPuf wrote:It is painfully disgusting to compare current public health measures with the Holocaust.


1. An antiques shop is not a public health authority.

2. It is painfully disgusting to know anything at all about Germany in 1933-45, or about Nazi "health measures", and still carry on so studiously and prudently ignoring what's happening in the land of Goethe and Brecht today.

3. What you defend so blithely as "current public health measures" mean that I am now no longer permitted to work, use public transport, enter a shop unpricked, or even leave the country. (I am healthy, not least because I defend my body and mind by resisting such "public health measures".) A large minority of human beings in this country have been placed in the same position as me, thanks to the "public health measures" you so righteously uphold from afar. They -- we -- are vilified and threatened daily by politicians, cowardly and careerist medics, and the mass media.

God forbid anyone should ever learn anything from history, or even use their own eyes, ears and mind. Someone might be offended.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby streeb » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:42 pm

Can we at least compare forced industrialized human experimentation to Nazi Science? Still too much??
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:22 pm

Today I counted 70 people queuing in the late-November drizzle and darkness to get into IKEA. Then I gave up counting. These patient souls were standing in line, getting wet and freezing their arses off, not because the shop was full, but due to Public Health Measures: one masked orderly at the door was checking their papers smartphones to ensure that none of the filthy Unpricked would be able to slip in unnoticed.

Frohe Weihnachten. Stay safe.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:37 pm

Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:36 pm wrote:.

...while it's generally acknowledged that, for the majority, near-term adverse events to mRNA shots are generally benign, it remains the case adverse events are statistically significant, and so far -- less than a year into the "vaccine campaigns" -- orders of magnitude more voluminous than any historical vaccines (regardless of total vaccines administered, the adverse events per 100K are unprecedented). Extensive data exists to minimally halt current distributions, at least until further testing/trials are completed.


We all know that won't happen anytime soon, which should raise all manner of alarm bells.

Instead, many continue to rely on faith. Faith in institutions that should be scrutinized by default given their checkered history.

Eventually, we'll get there. But at what cost until then?


https://osf.io/bcsa6/

Differences in Vaccine and SARS-CoV-2 Replication Derived mRNA: Implications for Cell Biology and Future Disease

AUTHORS
Kevin McKernan
Anthony M. Kyriakopoulos
Peter A. McCullough

Abstract

Codon optimization describes the process used to increase protein production by use of alternative but synonymous codon changes. InSARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines codon optimizations can result in differential secondary conformations that inevitably affect a protein’s function with significant consequences to the cell. Importantly, when codon optimization increases the GC content of synthetic mRNAs, there can be an inevitable enrichment of G-quartets which potentially form G-quadruplex structures. The emerging G-quadruplexes are favorable binding sites of RNA binding proteins like helicases that inevitably affect epigenetic reprogramming of the cell by altering transcription, translation and replication. In this study, we performed a RNA fold analysis to investigate alterations in secondary structures of mRNAs in SARS-CoV-2 vaccines due to codon optimization. We show a significant increase in the GC content of mRNAs in vaccines as compared to native SARS-CoV-2 RNA sequences encoding the spike protein. As the GC enrichment leads to more G-quadruplex structure formations, these may contribute to potential pathological processes initiated by SARS-CoV-2 molecular vaccination.

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Conclusions

The argument that the spike proteins synthesized by codon optimized mRNAs are identical to spike protein from the virus should be cautiously examined. There are several arguments that challenge this dogma. First, the biodistribution of non-specific LNP transfection of mRNAs does not discriminate towards ACE2 or CD147 expressing cell lines as seen with the virus. Second, the mRNA that encodes spike protein is known to be different in several regards. The mRNAs are known to have a 2 Proline substitution(K986P and V987P)(Department of Health and Human Services Patent US 10,960,070B2) altering the proteins conformation. The mRNAs are known to be codon optimized thus altering their secondary structure and their quadruplex G density in the spike protein mRNA. The mRNAs are known to have N1-methylpseudourine substitutions that alter translation fidelity and Toll Like Receptor recognition. Additionally, the expression levels and duration of these mRNAs maybe longer and of higher copy number in many tissues that never experience natural virus infection. Finally, the pharmacokinetics of injection are different than infection. 60ug-200ug of Spike mRNA equates to26 Trillion to 80 Trillion mRNA molecules injected in a few seconds. The pharmacokinetics of this bolus injection differs from that of viral replication that occurs over the course of a few days. If each of these mRNAs can produce 10-100 spike proteins and you have 30-40 Trillion cells, there may be a far greater systemic quantity and a much longer duration of spike protein exposure through the vaccination route than natural infection. Boosters given more frequently than a year will lead to total body accumulation of spike protein and further heighten the risk of disease in organs such as the brain, heart, bone marrow, and immune cells and tissues. This false equivalency may lead to an under appreciation of the symptomatology of vaccine based adverse events

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More than 20months into this pandemic and we have millions of SARs-CoV-2 genomes sequenced. Lot to lot sequencing of the vaccines is non-existent. To this date, no raw reads for these vaccines exist in NCBI despite over a billion liability-free vaccinations. To fully understand RNA synthesis substitution errors, fragmentation errors or strandedness errors in the mRNA synthesis process, robust lot to lot sequencing should be performed and published. Given these mRNAs are prodrugs which code for a desired protein, where is the evidence that the conversion of this prodrug into a drug is of high fidelity? This seems to have been assumed as opposed to documented.

This work suggests this assumption should be questioned. Public and transparent quality control of these often-mandated injections are required. This should include sequence verification and quality control of the various lots and evidence of the proteins these mRNA express in patients


AND:

https://www.covidkidfacts.ca/

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Do You Have ALL THE INFORMATION
You Need To Give Informed Consent?


Healthy children are at minimal risk of severe outcomes like hospitalizations from COVID-19

The risk of hospitalization from COVID-19 is less than that of influenza during the last 3 years

Your child is 10 times more likely to die of a motor vehicle accident than COVID-19; and 2-3 times more likely to die from drowning than from COVID-19

Once recovered from COVID-19, children have long lasting, robust immunity against future infection

More than 50% of kids have already had COVID-19 and about 40% of those were asymptomatic

Getting the vaccine after COVID-19 infection increases the risk of side effects, including severe and potentially life-threatening side-effects, from the vaccine

Fully vaccinated children can transmit COVID-19 and infect others as well as unvaccinated children

The mRNA technology in COVID-19 vaccines in Canada has never been used clinically in humans before

The Moderna vaccine uses the same mRNA technology as Pfizer - and has been suspended for use in children and young people in the United Kingdom, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Germany and France

COVID-19 vaccine induced myocarditis is only one of many potential adverse effects. It is not a “mild” disease. In many children, it can cause long term disability and some children may die of vaccine-induced myocarditis

Signed by 14 Canadian Physicians - including 2 Pediatricians, other specialists and family doctors; and more than 100 nurses from across Canada, including pediatric nurses.

We will remain anonymous for now, since Medical and Nursing Licensing Bodies and Health Authorities have been persecuting physicians and nurses for speaking the truth. Our practices, livelihoods, and licenses have been threatened simply for giving information to parents and children. This is providing informed consent, and we are bound by oath to do this.
We will most certainly reveal our identities at the appropriate time, most likely before the courts, when public health authorities, regional/provincial health authorities and licensing bodies are brought to justice.

Our statement is also endorsed by several leading Canadian scientists, Immunologists and vaccine specialists including:

Dr. Bonnie Mallard Ph.D. – Professor of Immunology and Immunogenetics,
University of Guelph. Winner of Governor General’s award for Innovations in Immunogenetics in 2017 and the NSERC Synergy Prize in the area of Immunogenetics 2021.

Dr Byram Bridle Ph.D. - Associate Professor of Viral Immunology and Vaccine Specialist, University of Guelph

Dr. Neil Karrow Ph.D. - Professor of Immunogenetics and Immunotoxicity, University of Guelph

Dr. Steve Pelech Ph.D. - Professor, Dept of Medicine, University of British Columbia
President and Chief Scientific Officer Kinexus Bioinformatics Corporation
Vice-President and Chair, Scientific and Advisory Committee of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance

Dr. Paul Alexander Ph.D. - Expert in evidence-based medicine; Health Epidemiologist. Has worked for WHO, Health Canada and the USA COVID-19 Taskforce.Please see Dr. Alexander’s urgent article for parents:
https://brownstone.org/articles/dear-pf ... ren-alone/
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:38 pm

Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:59 am wrote:.

The holocaust? No, that's not at all what those images depict. They are depicting similar sentiment from 2 different time periods. It's an indication of a rekindling of certain mindsets. Absolutely pertinent and relevant.

"public health measures", ffs. It's clear by now that current measures are not driven by "health" concerns.

Please, convince us otherwise.


Clear to you not driven by health concerns which is not saying much.

You are a tool of the fascists sucked into a psyop to destabilize the countries where most of us live and with close to zero idea of a positive outcome. Here in the USA the christian fascists have self-selected but will likely fail to something worse.

IMO from the beginning, thought that cv19 would not be contained and also that things that are worse will follow. Why? Humanity is destroying its own habitat and populations will adjust, the manner(s) and how horrific are open to question. Various groups are rearranging deck chairs with the idea to come out on top. The medical and scientific communities have been hamstrung by the pols in the current and no doubt not the last pandemic to reduce human footprint on the Earth. Common people will get more desperate and the bad people will get more over the top. The social discord makes the situation worse.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:44 pm

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"Christian fascists" -- is that some sort of joke, or satire? You may consider stepping outside of your info intake for a bit and breathe in the air elsewhere. Or is that not an option in your neck of the woods?

I'm far from alone in my sentiment, pufpuf.

You're free to continue with yours. good luck with it.
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