On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:30 pm

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We are in a dark place in our timeline, folks.

It will get worse before it may begin to get better.

The recent shooting in Nashville has expedited negative sentiment/activities from each entrenched position.

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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Grizzly » Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:16 pm

"I wonder how much testosterone this chick was jacked up with at the time of the planning and shooting."
Plus SSRI uptake I hibitors?
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Grizzly » Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:43 pm

Grizzly » Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:16 pm wrote:"I wonder how much testosterone this chick was jacked up with at the time of the planning and shooting."
Plus SSRI uptake I hibitors?



https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/the-haunting-link-between-ssris-and-mass-shooters
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Harvey » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:02 pm

Weird, but there it is...

Grizzly » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:16 pm wrote:"I wonder how much testosterone this chick was jacked up with at the time of the planning and shooting."


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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby drstrangelove » Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:30 pm

transgenderism/transvestism has often been associated with psychopathic behavior in popular fiction(films Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, Dressed to Kill). i know from first hand research this association is observable in real world cases as i have stumbled upon such a pattern inadvertently. whether this is causative is another story, as you'll also find a lot of other patterns, like having served in the US military. George(cavdef.org or marionumberone) could say much more about all this.

BTK was a transvestite.
Henry Lee Lucas was raised as a girl.
Carroll Edward Cole was raised as a girl.
Hadden Clark was raised as a girl.
Transvestites have been identified as persons of interest in the case files of both the Dean Corll murders & Atlanta child murders.(victims in both cases were linked to child pornography rings)
Phillip Paske(enforcer of John Norman pedophile network) was a transvestite.

there's probably a book out there that specifically explores this.
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Harvey » Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:59 pm

Interesting observations.
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:39 pm

Belligerent Savant » Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:36 pm wrote:.
Since I'm a male, perhaps the expressions by a fellow female RI member will hold more weight here, eh?

Project Willow is no longer active here -- unfortunate for all of us -- but she occasionally expresses herself, or "re-tweets" comments by others on Twitter. Let's examine a sampling of a few relatively recent posts by Project Willow's Twitter handle, in relation to some of the recent comments here (and also in other RI threads):

Lynn Schirmer Retweeted
KC
@dyke_in_denial
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May 18

You think these clinics care about "trans kids?"

I went to one. A damn good one too.

They knew I was a sexually abused child. I literally told my therapist I wanted to get rid of my genitals because I didn't want to be hurt again.

But somehow, this didn't give anyone pause.

https://twitter.com/dyke_in_denial/stat ... 66658?s=20

Lynn Schirmer
@Nemal

So, I got into a thing tonight with an old friend, about how his nephew is a niece. I tried to explain to him a woman's point of view, he threw Tucker Carlson and Piers Morgan at me, to lib shame me. My fkg god, we women are erased even in the midst of fighting our own erasure.

https://twitter.com/Nemal/status/165115 ... 66144?s=20

Lynn Schirmer Retweeted
Meghan Murphy
@MeghanEMurphy

It's true. This all began with men and their fetishes. Which makes the notion of a 'trans kid' all the more gross. Kids don't exist to legitimize and normalize the sexual fixations of adult men.
Malcolm Clark
@TwisterFilm

1./ What's the darkest secret of the trans lobby? It's one it's tried to hide for decades. There's a clue in this documentary on the BBC, called 'Casa Susanna'.
It's a sexual fetish of men who get off by imagining themselves as women.
1/ of 10


https://twitter.com/MeghanEMurphy/statu ... 21158?s=20

Lynn Schirmer Retweeted
Jeff Wells
@JeffWellsRigInt
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Apr 5

Don't experiment upon me. Don't restrict my movement. Don't deprive women of women-only spaces. Don't sexualize children. Don't initiate World War Three. Don't punish me for my perspective.

Anyway that's about the sum of my dangerous, extremist, unacceptable opinions.

https://twitter.com/JeffWellsRigInt/sta ... 59621?s=20

Lynn Schirmer
@Nemal

“I don’t qualify my existence in relation to another’s.” At the tail end of the Second Wave, we were trying to define ourselves, lobbying to change the language, to extract male out of female, man out of woman, and now we fight to keep these words.


1/2

...

Only a sociopathic, male hegemonic culture could come up with such a cruel, twisted, destructive movement.

2/2

https://twitter.com/Nemal/status/164310 ... 15328?s=20

etc.


Seems we were a bit ahead of the curve when we started this thread, sensing the mindfuckery developing (i.e., the next topic to be twisted to ostensibly appear to be supporting a movement, but ultimately to benefit the ends of the very few -- while harming many, irrevocably in a number of instances, in the process)...
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Harvey » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:06 pm

Another mark against your critics is their failure to recognise that you have very good instincts. Well done.
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:38 pm

(appreciate that note, Harvey, in ways that can't be adequately expressed, and only cheapened, in whatever I type in response here)
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:45 pm

Belligerent Savant » Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:41 pm wrote:
I believe this was shared here before, right? I've seen this video a couple times in the last ~couple years.

Jeff Wells
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The more that Queer Theory manifests its goal to be the sexualization of children, the more LGB who break the alphabet chain, the more the term "Gay-Straight Alliance" will come to mean something that would have been entirely unexpected five years ago.

Queer Theory Jeopardy!!! with Professor Derrick Jensen


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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:45 am

Related to the above video clip/comment:


Geoff Shullenberger
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“Once the language of queer theory became the official ideology of this consultant and activist classes, not only did the fight for gay rights become incoherent—so did feminism.”

Georgetown law prof Lama Abu Odeh on the mainstreaming of queer theory:


https://compactmag.com/article/how-quee ... gay-rights

How Queer Theory Swallowed Gay Rights

Lama Abu Odeh

June 8, 2023

As another Pride Month kicks off, most of us have grown accustomed to phrases like “the LGBTQIA+ community” that suggest a harmonious, if motley, coalition. But queer theory, the academic realm in which this expanding alphabet soup of identities originated, first emerged in the 1990s as a critique of the gay movement as it then existed. The problem with the gay movement, queer theory hypothesized, was that it locked people into binary sexuality-based identities: straight and gay. In other words, queer theory accused the gay movement of “essentializing” sexual orientation. As David M. Halperin, a pioneer in the field, put it in 2003, “queer theory appeared on the shelves of bookstores and in advertisements for academic jobs, where it provided a merciful exemption from the irreducibly sexual descriptors ‘lesbian’ and ‘gay.’”

The problem, according to queer theory, was that the gay/straight binary, and the male/female distinction on which it relied, boxed people’s sexuality into narrow domains. The truth was that people’s sex and sexuality were more accurately described as sitting on a spectrum of sex and sexual pleasure. What was needed, queer theorists argued, was the liberation of sex and sexuality from preexisting constraining frameworks—namely, straight/gay and male/female. How was this possible? By critiquing identity and identification as such, and by opening discourse up to allow people to choose whatever combination of sex (now recast as “gender”) and sexuality (now recast as pretty much anything) suited them at any given moment.

In short, queer theory put the gay movement on the chopping block. Rather than seeing it as a movement promoting the interests of a sexual minority facing discrimination and prejudice, it saw gayness as complicit with the oppressor—heterosexuality—because of its role in constraining the avenues and domains of sexual pleasure that would otherwise be open for exploration if it weren’t for the deadweight of “gay politics.” Queer theory sought to liberate people from social constraints on sexual expression, treating the gay movement’s political agenda—which in the 1990s and aughts coalesced around same-sex marriage—as suspect, because it sought to discipline gay men into straight mores and make them palatable to the heterosexual mainstream. Queer theorists saw themselves as “radical" compared to the “liberal-centrist” gay movement. Whereas the gay-rights movement merely wanted to secure a sexual minority its rights, queer theorists wanted to liberate human sexuality itself.

...


The remainder is behind a paywall unfortunately.
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby drstrangelove » Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:28 am

well both gays and straights maintain their gender identity post-puberty because it is useful to them in fulfilling human needs. both gay and straight men need to attract partners who find the male identity attractive. so even though the male gender identity is assigned at birth based on the biological need to procreate with females, gay men do not reject it. they may change what it means to be a man but not what objectively defines a man itself - biology.

transpeople on the other hand are same-sex attracted like gay people, but instead of maintaining their gender identity during post-puberty to attract partners, they reject it. and this is probably the best reason why we see psychological issues in transpeople, they reject the gender identity which is most useful to them in fulfilling their human needs.

only a small minority of both gay and straight people are interested in relationships with trans people and trans people mostly aren't interested in relationships with each other. i would argue the majority of trans people are probably only interested in relationships with straight people.

where gender identity for both gays and straights is useful to fulfilling human needs, for transpeople it severely limits the amount of prospective partners they can establish relationships with. this effectively makes many of them not to different from incels. these are people who become misanthropes due to their inability to fulfill their human needs as a result of not conforming to useful conventions. is it any wonder they have high rates of suicide? transpeople are gay people who reject being gay.
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:09 am

Thank you for that very cogent explanation. That definitely makes sense.
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Re: On "Trans Kids" and related topics..

Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:04 pm

Here is some pathos and local color from the Eureka, California, the County Seat of Humboldt County and my place of birth. Think Humboldt and think redwoods and cannabis. Some of you may find your hero too.



CLIP OF RECENT EUREKA CITY COUNCIL MEETING GOES VIRAL–GETS OVER A MILLION VIEWS

Monday, 12 June 2023, 1:38 am Kym Kemp, RHBB

A clip of the June 6 Eureka City Council meeting featuring a comment by a local resident with an introduction by a TikTokker known as Jake went viral this weekend–it received over a million views in two days.

The Tikkokker proclaims that he “never expected to find my hero at a City Council meeting in Eureka, California but here you go.”

Much more (videos, photos, text, local comments) at: https://kymkemp.com/2023/06/12/clip-of- ... n-views-2/
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