stickdog99 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:26 am wrote:Nationalize the oil companies and use all that sweet oil money to shift to as much renewable as possible and invest in storage solutions.
Storage solutions? Like what?
Pumped hydro, batteries, flywheels, stacking bricks, molten salt, hot water, whatever lets you store energy for later use. You could have just looked this up for yourself you know, they're not some elusive mythical creature.
Subsidize solar and EVs,
Are these options actually any better for the environment in an overall sense when you include the mining, transportation, and battery energy expenditures?
This is the same nonsense BelSav keeps harping on about: Oh, it's not perfect right now, so it's in fact terrible! Woe be me!
You can electrify all the steps required. They may not be right now, but there's no major obstacles to doing it. Burning oil and coal will always be dirty (not to mention, they require mining and transportation too. You talk as if the oil just magically teleports from beneath the Gulf or the oil sands in Alberta, detours through a magical refinery that is totally clean and very nice, and into your gas tank. And coal too. Poof! There it is, just sitting there for the taking. They definitely don't cut off the tops of entire mountains or anything to get at it). Throw in better recycling and reuse and you're getting there. Old car batteries may not be good enough to run a car, but they can still store energy in your garage for instance.
If you're going to mine, at least mine for the stuff that helps you stop using the worst shit.
carbon tax with progressive rebates
How is this going to work in practice?
Same way they do it in Alaska (those filthy socialists), only with a progressive lowering of the payout the more you earn. For instance. I don't have a white paper if that's what you're asking, I'm just spitballing.
crush capitalism
With whose fist?
Dunno. Can I borrow yours?
By the way, I just wanted to congratulate all of us well-meaning collectivists on our finally managing to convince our entire technocratic establishment of the imminent direness of the climate emergency facing humankind, despite the inexorable efforts of fossil fuel propagandists who continue to spread the exact disinformation and misinformation about this issue that the WEF currently ranks as the single greatest risk facing humanity in the near term. Luckily, now that all elites finally stand 100% with us on this issue (against all odds and certainly in capitalism crushing solidarity), we can doubtlessly trust them to effectively, efficiently, and equitably address this crisis with only our public interest in mind (just as they addressed COVID).
Sounds like you could do with a good round of crushing capitalism too. Remove these fuckers from the equation.
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