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Horrorcore rapper faces murder charges.

Postby barracuda » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:02 am

He rapped about the thrill of killing, now he's been charged with murder

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A California man who rapped about the thrill of killing remains behind bars in Virginia, charged with killing a pastor and likely to face charges in the deaths of three others.

US police charged Richard Alden Samuel McCroskey III with first-degree murder, robbery and stealing the automobile of Mark Niederbrock, a pastor at Walker's Presbyterian Church in Appomattox County, on Saturday.

Farmville police Captain Wade Stimpson said McCroskey likely would be charged with killing three others found in the home of a Longwood University professor on Friday once the medical examiner identifies the victims. That is not expected before Monday.

Police arrested McCroskey, 20, of Castro Valley, California, at the Richmond airport on Saturday. The aspiring rapper in the horrorcore genre, which sets violent lyrics to hip-hop beats, was found sleeping in the baggage area as he waited for a flight back to California. He is being held in the Piedmont Regional Jail and has an initial court appearance on Monday. It was unclear if he has a lawyer.

On Friday, authorities discovered the bodies in the home of Debra Kelley, an associate professor of sociology and criminal justice studies at the university in the town of Farmville, about 80km west of Richmond. Stimpson said Niederbrock and Kelley were separated.

Stimpson said police were called to the home on Thursday by the parent of a girl who was visiting the couple's daughter because she hadn't heard from her child. A man at the house told police the girls were at the movies. When the mother in West Virginia still didn't hear from her daughter on Friday, she asked police to go back. That's when they found the bodies.

Police have declined to say how the four were killed and why they have not been able to identify all of them immediately.

McCroskey recorded songs that spoke of death, murder and mutilation under the name Syko Sam. His MySpace web page said he has been rapping for only a few months but has been a fan for years of the horrorcore genre.

In a song called My Dark Side, McCroskey sings: "You're not the first, just to let you know. I've killed many people and I kill them real slow. It's the best feeling, watching their last breath. Stabbing and stabbing till there's nothing left."

A friend who owns a small, independent record label that specialises in horrorcore confirmed the site and the songs were McCroskey's. Andres Shrim, who owns Serial Killin Records in New Mexico, said others shouldn't judge McCroskey by what they see on his website or hear in his music.

Describing McCroskey as a "great kid," Shrim said he has known him for at least two years, and he last saw him on September 12 at an all-day music festival in South Gate, Michigan.

"You would never, ever imagine that kid even being a suspect," Shrim said. "If he is found to be guilty, I would be 100 per cent shocked."

Shrim said even though horrorcore focuses on murder and other morbid subjects, performers and fans shouldn't be labelled violent.

On his web page, McCroskey posted videos and pictures of a grave where a cross and miniature American flags had been turned upside down.

"We defiled the grave, and then lightning struck seconds ago. I think we were being warned," he says in the video, laughing. In the photos, the gravestone identifies the person buried there as a Marine.

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Re: Horrorcore rapper faces murder charges.

Postby Nordic » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:33 am

barracuda wrote:"You're not the first, just to let you know. I've killed many people and I kill them real slow. It's the best feeling, watching their last breath. Stabbing and stabbing till there's nothing left."

A friend who owns a small, independent record label that specialises in horrorcore confirmed the site and the songs were McCroskey's. Andres Shrim, who owns Serial Killin Records in New Mexico, said others shouldn't judge McCroskey by what they see on his website or hear in his music.


Okay, I'm all for free speech and everything, but I just don't get how anybody, anywhere, would think it was in any way a GOOD thing to release something like that into the marketplace, given that as soon as something is released commercially, they are afforded a status that impressionable minds might find worthy of emulating.

I mean, I really don't get how anybody can think it's cool, or fun, or interesting, or rebellious, or anything positive, to release something, for profit, that, yes, glorifies acts of horrific violence against other people.

And to name your record lable "Serial Killin Records"?

I don't know what anyone can do about this, given free speech laws, but c'mon. There are many unstable people out there for whom a commercial release of something like this will be nothing but a trigger for them to act out their fantasies.

This has always really bothered me.

There shouldn't be laws against free speech, but there damn well SHOULD be laws against dangerous irresponsibility.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:00 am

LMFAO at the article calling that thing a "man." It's definitely male, but I don't think anyone would confuse this specimen for a man.

Shades of BIG LURCH! I'm sure RI remembers that, right? Horrorcore rapper eats PCP, wakes up in the street covered with the blood of a woman he killed and ate? (There's a persistent myth that his album went platinum because of that, but if Billboard/Nielsen won't confirm it, that's all I need to know. If true, it would be the greatest marketing anecdote of all time...so thank Christ it's not true.)
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Postby smiths » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:29 am

McCroskey recorded songs that spoke of death, murder and mutilation

Andres Shrim, who owns Serial Killin Records in New Mexico, said others shouldn't judge McCroskey by what they see on his website or hear in his music.

"If he is found to be guilty, I would be 100 per cent shocked."


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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:42 am

And TV shows like Dexter? "Sociopath serial killer killing serial killers".
Uhh.
Its also very popular I hear. I couldnt bear more than one episode.
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Postby Occult Means Hidden » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:21 am

Yall are a bunch of conservatives.

It's escapism. Horror movies, books, songs, tv shows. No big deal. Do you all really look so lowly on humanity that monkey see is monkey do? Are we not given a sense of free will? Impressionable minds means programmable automaton.

I don't know, I can watch that tv show Dexter, and be thoroughly entertained. I guess we're hardwired differently.
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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:45 am

Hey, I used to like black metal long before it was in any way popular.

But desensitization to brutal sociopathic violence is not simply entertainment or escapism.
It serves a purpose.

That you feel fine watching such stuff is another matter entirely, and not necessarily a matter of hard wiring, rather socialization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialization

Bread and circus games. Definitely nothing new either.
Can you give me some views on why Dexter is a positive or neutral influence on the viewers, or in this case, why those raps would be? Or, simple fun?

And are you saying that enjoying and being able to take as entertainment, such brutal violence, would be a good thing, instead of something to be concerned about?
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:01 am

Human minds work on entrainment and repetition. I dig Dexter but I don't think it's "harmless" for a fucking second, it definitely had me contemplating how easy it is to kill people after 2 seasons.

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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:59 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:LMFAO at the article calling that thing a "man." It's definitely male, but I don't think anyone would confuse this specimen for a man.


Christ, if you look at him, he's a child, fergawdsakes.

... okay I just Googled up that he's 20. But he looks like a child, his demeanor. At my age, 20 is still a kid. Sorry. >.<

And as much as I love horror, and will defend it, it still does affect people. Anything you put into your life affects you... from breakfast til sleep, and possibly even during sleep. It's just how human beings are. Hell, it's even how my dog is. What I'd like to know is what set this boy off. We all have it within ourselves, but only a few actually do it, and then something has to set them off - be it drugs, stress, whatever. Abnormal psych interests me. I feel horrible for the families, and the friends, on both sides - what a tragedy. :(
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:00 pm

Ahhh. No wonder. A nasty white boy caught.

This weekend CIA-NPR did an article about black rappers and the occult.

Oh, those eeee-vil negroes and their jungle voodoo. :roll:
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Postby barracuda » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:44 pm

SickTanicK music on YouTube, the stage name of Andres Shrim, of Serial Killin Records.

Two of the apparent victims, though unidentified by police, are apparently considered by Mr. Shrim and the people writing on his MySpace page to be these women, known as Ragdoll and Melanie.

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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:07 pm

Maddy wrote: We all have it within ourselves, but only a few actually do it, and then something has to set them off - be it drugs, stress, whatever.


Yeah. But set off, or get off?

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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:33 pm

I'll be honest, I haven't seen this Dexter and have no idea what it is. But yeah, even the "getting off" on it thing - in order to do it something has to be warped in a person's mind, somewhere.

Fantasies are one thing - anyone can have a lesbian fantasy and not be a lesbian, for example - or an S/M fantasy and have no interest in fulfilling it in real life. In order for a person to actually do something like serial killing or rape or so forth, something has to be off in their mind, somewhere. Something that lets down the barriers of "right/wrong" (or even, barring that, the barrier of "if I get caught I'll have to deal with the repercussions") - be it stress, mental illness, drugs, or whatever it happens to be. I'm not against anyone's fantasies - more power to them - its the (cause of the) actions that should be investigated in order to stop perpetuating them.

I suppose I spend a lot of my life wondering, "why?"
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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:41 pm

Maddy wrote:I'll be honest, I haven't seen this Dexter and have no idea what it is.
........

I'm not against anyone's fantasies - more power to them - its the (cause of the) actions that should be investigated in order to stop perpetuating them.

I suppose I spend a lot of my life wondering, "why?"


(Dexter is only incidentally relevant to this so don't mind if you don't know it..)


Yes...

Im only saying that fantasies get more power when you see examples of fictional narratives of those fantasies being acted out. Validation and acceptance. Dunno, just my opinion. And of course depends a lot on the nature of the fantasy, and the person etc.

Like when we had two bloody school shootings here - number of threats to schools jumped after the first one, and then jumped even higher after the second. And the second school massacrer held the first ones perpetrator to a high esteem (they also had contact by internet). Its like the urges were potentially there for many, but it took an example to bring them out in others too.
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