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Postby anothershamus » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:55 pm

!his is fucking awesome! It spells it out. this is part 3 and shows the direction of wealth, towards the ownership top of the pyramid! Guess who shows up in lesson 5, my buddy Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski

lesson 1 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l37RhdFGVsM

lesson 2 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGTBkNJ8ZWI



lesson 4 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irmcAecUJLM

lesson 5 here on new world order:

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCxjqPgHgpA
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkSLlICfdZg

lesson 6 here to show what we can do to help get us out of this mess:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw3i5Rzpx5A
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6HuzhMUHGM
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv3M2gCynLw

(on edit I added the links to lessons 1,2,4,5,6 and I looked for text transcripts but couldn't find any)
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Postby anothershamus » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:12 am

Holy corporate fascism, Batman!

I just finished watching the whole hour and a half of this information. This guy explains everything very clearly and concisely. I don't know if his little bit at the end will be able to save us (and he doesn't know if it will either), but the way he describes the Harvard, Yale, Ivy Leaguers programmed to look at the people on the bottom as numbers not people and they describe Hitler and Stalin as managers using a different more efficient system management style, rather than murderous villainy. I always thought the elite were aloof, but to be that down right fascist and not feeling any humanity is criminal.

So RIers let me know what you think of the info. I would recommend, as he does, to turn off your TVs (I know most of you guys are beyond that) and watch this hour and a half and get armed with information to counter all those Glen Beck morons!
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Postby bardobailey » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:54 am

maybe put a link to this on the Political Ponerology thread?
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Postby lucky » Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:35 am

http://vimeo.com/15394203

Link to whole film - tpp much hassle in 10 m segments!
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Postby anothershamus » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:34 am

lucky wrote:http://vimeo.com/15394203

Link to whole film - tpp much hassle in 10 m segments!


thanks I didn't know there was a full link!
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Postby lucky » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:08 pm

No worries - just have to find 3h to watch the bugger.
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Postby lucky » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:22 pm

Whoops wrong linky....give me a mo
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:45 pm

Man, I wish this was better made. Basically some low-rent power point and a computer mic narration. Really needs an upgrade and better narration.

Definitely way better than average, and I hope it does get re-done. He also needs a lot more, like, evidence and proof. (For example, in part 5 after a too-long redundant intro on how this is "not conspiracy theory" the narrator insists "it's just math")- yet there's really no math being presented anywhere in what I've seen so far.;0

Overall, not really worth the time. His bit in part 3 about elite control was the worst part so far -- shallow to the point of caricature. Evidence would go a long, long way. It's way more complex than Harvard + Yale + CFR, and even if it wasn't, show people how it's true. Bring it home, prove the thesis. This is just assertion after assertion.

Yes, I will take this as an impetus to make my own.
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Postby Brigit » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:25 pm

"Holy corporate fascism, Batman!

I just finished watching the whole hour and a half of this information. This guy explains everything very clearly and concisely. I don't know if his little bit at the end will be able to save us (and he doesn't know if it will either), but the way he describes the Harvard, Yale, Ivy Leaguers programmed to look at the people on the bottom as numbers not people and they describe Hitler and Stalin as managers using a different more efficient system management style, rather than murderous villainy. I always thought the elite were aloof, but to be that down right fascist and not feeling any humanity is criminal.

So RIers let me know what you think of the info. I would recommend, as he does, to turn off your TVs (I know most of you guys are beyond that) and watch this hour and a half and get armed with information to counter all those Glen Beck morons!"
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Thank you for providing all of these links! We have an extra hour today, and I devoted it and 2 more to watching/stopping/rewinding/rewatching the lessons ... because I was riveted. The narrator talks faster than my auditory processing capacity at times, but it is an excellent encapsulation of the hidden power structure that is picking up global momentum at a lethal speed, and kudos to anyone who devotes time to imparting truth, as he/she perceives it to be, on behalf of the welfare of all, inherent in all authentically good intentions. All the more power to you, Wombaticus Rex, if your stating "Yes, I will take this as an impetus to make my own." means making a film?

"a science (or group of related sciences) dealing with the logic of quantity and shape and arrangement ..... precise rules, logic, symbols" These are formal definitions of "math", one from an online thesaurus, one from "The American College Dictionary" copyright 1947!!! Point being, there was plenty of math in this presentation, and pictures of actual human players of the world theater to go with those explicit little triangles. I loved the concept of the vortex with centrifugal and centripetal force etc. as a symbol of what happens by nature when there is an imbalance.

Despite the presenter assigning unsavory traits to specific groups of human beings, as opposed to acknowledging that the full spectrum of personality characteristics apply to all people across geography, culture, gender, race, age, class, vertical, horizontal, centrifugally and centripetally etc. I really liked this.

I envision a renaissance or something so grim I can't see it because we won't be here to see it. All so subjective, but what I deeply feel, a 50/50 prospect, as mathematically crisp as the phases of the moon. Philanthropy and accountability are huge. Face to face human contact brings them to bear. The "ivy league criminals" are not alone in their habit of digitalizing lives, nor do the proletarians corner the market of saintliness. (Yuck, 2 more extreme examples of something far too complex to categorize). I do what I can to push my edge of comfort for others, sometimes to a fault, but I believe it is the good heart of community however big or small.

I believe that those who have endured extraordinary hardship, who remain optimistic are seminal to our survival as a planet of sentient beings. I think when it comes right down to it, the moon is always full.

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Postby Brigit » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:43 pm

These studies are books, but I am so technologically challenged I can't figure out the bells and whistles, like how to underline text! Here are some more words from some deep thinkers of yore. I think it is pertinent to this thread.
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Morality of Propaganda: a review

"Propaganda: The Formation of Men’s Attitudes", by Jacques Ellul; translated from the French Propagandes by Konrad Kellen and Jean Lerner, New York: Aifred A. Knopf, 1965. 320 pp

"Propaganda Comes of Age" by Michael Choukas, Washington, D.C.: Public Affairs Press, 1965. 299 pp.

Each of these timely studies, wholly different in approach and organization, gains strength from an examination of the other. That by Professor Ellul, of the University of Bordeaux, is the more scholarly; that by Professor Choukas, of Dartmouth College, the livelier reading. Together the two sociologists present an admirable synthesis of viewpoint from the two countries that consider themselves the basic pivots of contemporary democratic thought.

Neither book, however, is nationalistic in its approach. On the contrary, Professor Ellul is disposed to consider official American propaganda more skillful than that conducted by successive French governments. Professor Choukas, in turn, seems to regard Americans as easy prey for propagandists because of our rootlessness and habitual desire to conform. It could be easier for Washington to brainwash free Americans than for Peiping to regiment the enslaved Chinese. And incidentally the Ellul book, which is beautifully printed and produced, has a very interesting appendix on the propaganda of Mao Tse-tung.
In their separate yet harmonious definitions of propaganda the two authors in effect tell us how their handling of the subject will differ. For Choukas, propaganda is: “The controlled dissemination of deliberately distorted notions in an effort to induce action favorable to predetermined ends of special interest groups.” Ellul, who is acutely discriminating between various types of influence, comes more slowly to the conclusion that: “Propaganda is a set of methods employed by an organized group that wants to bring about the active or passive participation in its actions of a mass of individuals, psychologically unified through psychological manipulations and incorporated in an organization.”
While there is no contradiction between these definitions, there is quite a contrast of emphasis between “deliberate distortions” and “psychological manipulations.” So it is not surprising that Choukas throughout gives more attention to the former and Ellul to the latter. The difference is sharpened because the American author reproduces many illustrations of propaganda - military, political, social, and commercial-where the falsification, in retrospect, is obvious. The Frenchman prefers to make his points by detailed examination, without pictures, emphasizing the subtleties of the really accomplished propagandist.
The twilight zone where distortion and manipulation merge is well surveyed by Professor Choukas in his account of the recording of Hitler’s famous “victory jig” when the French signed his terms for their surrender in 1940. As Choukas says, all who saw that widely distributed news reel must have been convinced that Germany was under the direction of “a ludicrous personality unable to control his own responses under stress.”
But the problem was how to hammer that home in the still neutral United States. And, 18 years later, the responsible British agent revealed how it was done. The German film showed Hitler stumbling momentarily over a rough spot in the ground, then jumping slightly as he recovered balance. All that was done for American viewers, in the later words of the British operative, “was to freeze that jump at its silliest point and add a few frames of that moment to the film.” Then, “there he was, doing a jig.”
When truth is thus tripped, rather than rudely crushed to earth, it may be doubted that it will always rise again, And both the present authors agree that sly displacement of the truth, rather than out- right prevarication, is the essence of really competent propaganda. “The manufacture of illusion” is what Professor Choukas calls the process. That the promotion of such illusion, even in wartime, is of any value as a defense of freedom is flatly denied by Professor Ellul. “Propaganda, regardless of origin,” he maintains, “destroys man’s personality and freedom.”
Both authors agree, however, that propaganda has become a necessity of modern life. It is now an essential tool of government “for the simple reason that the masses have come to participate in political affairs.” But with one man, one vote, this propaganda must be in the simplest terms, keyed to the lowest common denominator and appealing to those who have no economic or financial understanding. The more democratic the system the more its leadership will be inclined to oversimplify and promise the unattainable. Deceitful government comes the more easily because a big point with Ellul- “propaganda fills a need of modern man.” In a technological world, replete with intricate problems beyond his comprehension, the poor creature thirsts for some oracle to justify him as Homo Sapiens. In wartime the government has long filled this need and as war becomes a permanent condition, so do these services. Moreover, “propaganda gives man assurances equivalent to those formerly given him by religion. It offers him a simple and clear explanation of the world in which he lives to be sure, a false explanation far removed from reality, but one that is obvious and satisfying.” Against the insidious demoralization of
this misleading faith the appeal to reason becomes increasingly vain. The critical faculty goes unexercised and what Professor Choukas calls man’s “fundamental thrust towards sanity” is blunted. “The propagandist does not want him to think” but blindly to associate himself with a heroic image calibrated from Batman to Big Brother. This technique of course owes much to TV commercials, where dentures go with smiling youth and automobiles are never caught in traffic jams. With this dream world, the authors think, comes that “unhinging of the mind” which is so helpful to the propagandist. Both are concerned with the social and political consequences of propaganda and both warn that its cumulative effect is likely to turn democracy into dictatorship. “There is a fundamental difference,” says Ellul, “between regimes based on opinion and regimes based on belief.” When a political system changes from one to the other a revolution has occurred, whether we recognize it or not. “Propaganda and democracy,” concludes Choukas, “do not mix; they are incompatible, in fact inimical to each other.” So these two studies cannot be called agreeable reading, even though the war in Vietnam has made them poignantly apposite. Its stated purpose is to prevent the spread of communism, yet to accomplish this totalitarian techniques must be employed. “The sacred cow of consensus,” as has been said, “displaces the sacred cause of individual conscience.” And when that happens democracy is losing to dictatorship no matter how the tide of battle runs. Neither of these two sociologists is sure of human ability to solve what Professor Choukas calls “the contradiction inherent in the situation we face.” But of the two, he is the less pessimistic, as those who have read Professor Ellul’s devastating book on The Technological Society one might guess.
“Effective governmental propaganda”, says this French scholar, ”must in due course be followed by elimination of any effective opposition to governmental policy, as indeed Rousseau foreshadowed in his Contrat Social of two centuries ago. But when this has occurred: “What is this democracy that no longer includes minorities and opposition? ... The citizen can repeat indefinitely the sacred formulas of
democracy while acting like a storm trooper.”

One lays these thoughtful studies aside with increased respect for the intuition of those classical liberals who long since told us that the powerful State is the real enemy of mankind, the only agency which for all its pious pretension will, in the name of self-preservation, play Moloch to its children.

Reviewed by FELIX MORLEY
“The Intercollegiate Review” A JOURNAL OF SCHOLARSHIP AND OPINION
Summer 1966
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Postby jbinks » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:17 am

Wow! I just watched the whole series, way late into the night. This all made so much sense, especially after reading The Shock Doctrine. Very scary and made me worry about my young friends with their brand new engineering degrees, and my husband with his faith in the security of his pension. I'd like to pass this on to them, but they always scoff at what I come up with. Sigh.

Anyway, thanks, anothershamus for the links.
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Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:23 pm

Sigh...well, this should be shown in every highschool in US but won't be. Whoever dared to do so would soon be out of a job for being unpatriotic and RADICAL.

Thanks anothershamus for the vids. I had never heard of this man before. I agree with his solution to somehow, someway, strengthen the communities but how?

There is no money to do anything.
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Postby vanlose kid » Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:45 am

thanks for posting this.

here's a minor update:

The scary actual U.S. government debt

NEIL REYNOLDS | Columnist profile | E-mail
OTTAWA— From Wednesday's Globe and Mail


Boston University economist Laurence Kotlikoff says U.S. government debt is not $13.5-trillion (U.S.), which is 60 per cent of current gross domestic product, as global investors and American taxpayers think, but rather 14-fold higher: $200-trillion – 840 per cent of current GDP. “Let’s get real,” Prof. Kotlikoff says. “The U.S. is bankrupt.”

Writing in the September issue of Finance and Development, a journal of the International Monetary Fund, Prof. Kotlikoff says the IMF itself has quietly confirmed that the U.S. is in terrible fiscal trouble – far worse than the Washington-based lender of last resort has previously acknowledged. “The U.S. fiscal gap is huge,” the IMF asserted in a June report. “Closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 per cent of U.S. GDP.”

This sum is equal to all current U.S. federal taxes combined. The consequences of the IMF’s fiscal fix, a doubling of federal taxes in perpetuity, would be appalling – and possibly worse than appalling.

Prof. Kotlikoff says: “The IMF is saying that, to close this fiscal gap [by taxation], would require an immediate and permanent doubling of our personal income taxes, our corporate taxes and all other federal taxes.

“America’s fiscal gap is enormous – so massive that closing it appears impossible without immediate and radical reforms to its health care, tax and Social Security systems – as well as military and other discretionary spending cuts.”

He cites earlier calculations by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) that concluded that the United States would need to increase tax revenue by 12 percentage points of GDP to bring revenue into line with spending commitments. But the CBO calculations assumed that the growth of government programs (including Medicare) would be cut by one-third in the short term and by two-thirds in the long term. This assumption, Prof. Kotlikoff notes, is politically implausible – if not politically impossible.

One way or another, the fiscal gap must be closed. If not, the country’s spending will forever exceed its revenue growth, and no one’s real debt can increase faster than his real income forever.

Prof. Kotlikoff uses “fiscal gap,” not the accumulation of deficits, to define public debt. The fiscal gap is the difference between a government’s projected revenue (expressed in today’s dollar value) and its projected spending (also expressed in today’s dollar value). By this measure, the United States is in worse shape than Greece.

Prof. Kotlikoff is a noted economist. He is a research associate at the U.S. National Bureau of Economic Research. He is a former senior economist with then-president Ronald Reagan’s Council of Economic Advisers. He has served as a consultant with governments around the world. He is the author (or co-author) of 14 books: Jimmy Stewart Is Dead (2010), his most recent book, explains his recommendations for reform.

He says the U.S. cannot end its fiscal crisis by increasing taxes. He opposes further stimulus spending because it will simply increase the debt. But he does suggest reforms that would help – most of which would require a significant withering away of the state. He proposes that the government give every person an annual voucher for health care, provided that the total cost not exceed 10 per cent of GDP. (U.S. health care now consumes 16 per cent of GDP.) He suggests the replacement of all current federal taxes with a single consumption tax of 18 per cent. He calls for government-sponsored personal retirement accounts, with the government making contributions only for the poor, the unemployed and people with disabilities.

Without drastic reform, Prof. Kotlikoff says, the only alternative would be a massive printing of money by the U.S. Treasury – and hyperinflation.

As former president Bill Clinton once prematurely said, the era of big government is over. In the coming years, the U.S. will almost certainly be compelled to deconstruct its welfare state.

Prof. Kotlikoff doesn’t trust government accounting, or government regulation. The official vocabulary (deficit, debt, transfer payment, tax, borrowing), he says, is vulnerable to official manipulation and off-the-books deceit. He calls it “Enron accounting.” He also calls it a lie. Here is an economist who speaks plainly, as the legendary straight-shooting film star Jimmy Stewart did for an earlier generation.

But Prof. Kotlikoff’s economic genre isn’t the Western. It’s the horror story – “and scarier,” one reviewer of his book suggests, than Stephen King.

[ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-o ... le1773879/ ]

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caveat: re kotlikoff's "solutions", remember who the man works for and where he's placed in the pyramid (cf. lesson two, above).

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Postby vanlose kid » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:44 am

even more important update.

5 video lesson by the same guy: Debunking Money".

really spells it out. must watch.




the rest here: http://www.youtube.com/user/councilonsp ... uWCOvnOtTI

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Postby vanlose kid » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:41 am

dupe. delete.

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