Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[stickdog99]

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[stickdog99]

To summarize:

If Paddock actually rented out the adjoining room, something that I have never heard anyone claim except iamwhoiam, then that adjoining room was room 32-134.

However, while it is possible to rent out both the huge 32-135 suite and adjoining room 32-134 because they have adjoining interior doors as do many hotel rooms, nobody has ever claimed that both of these rooms were booked by Paddock, who was after all just a single person who would have no need of an extra bedroom and bathroom whatsoever. And since Sheriff Lombardo claims that Paddock paid for his room starting September 28th, we can throw out the idea that it was comped because he is such a high roller, which also makes no sense because, again, Paddock was just a single occupant. Why comp him anything more than an almost 2000 square foot suite when you can book (or comp) the adjoining room to someone else?

In addition, Brian Hodge claims that he was staying in room 32-134.

So the questions remain unanswered. Why did Paddock utilize room 32-134 at all? How and when did he gain access to this room? Why did he even need access to this room? Why did he break the window in 32-134 when he had plenty of windows in 32-135 that would have given him the same or better line of sight on anything he was shooting at? When did he break these windows? Which windows did he fire out of and when?

Why did he place cameras in front of room 32-134 when this would show nothing but a view across the hall? Why didn't he place the cameras in front of the door of 32-135, from which vantage he would have gotten at least some view of anyone approaching either room from a distance?

Which door did he fire the supposed 200 rounds through? When he received no return fire whatsoever, why didn't he just open his door to get a clear look (and clear shot) at the unarmed intruder who supposedly startled him? Why did he spray his rounds blindly and injure Campos, then ignore Campos and wait six full minutes to fire his next rounds?

[stickdog99]

Oh, I forgot. Because of his father!

[SonicG]

Oh, I forgot. Because of his father!

There is obviously a lot of vagueness surrounding this whole incident, whether you think it is full-on conspiro-mania or just a massive sad tragedy of the largest scale ever, we deserve answers in detail. I also see the point of trying to argue this minutiae, which may or may not remain just that, without knowing answers like those you have posed above. Could that cart have been shoved away from the suite door and thus the wires are just dangling? Did he break into the other suite as some sort of distraction? And indeed, the 100s of rounds through the door business...I really wonder if the mainstream press will actually push to get these details or just let it be swept under the rug by, what now, a black woman who dresses "wacky"....

[Brentos]

To summarize:

If Paddock actually rented out the adjoining room, something that I have never heard anyone claim except iamwhoiam, then that adjoining room was room 32-134.

However, while it is possible to rent out both the huge 32-135 suite and adjoining room 32-134 because they have adjoining interior doors as do many hotel rooms, nobody has ever claimed that both of these rooms were booked by Paddock, who was after all just a single person who would have no need of an extra bedroom and bathroom whatsoever. And since Sheriff Lombardo claims that Paddock paid for his room starting September 28th, we can throw out the idea that it was comped because he is such a high roller, which also makes no sense because, again, Paddock was just a single occupant. Why comp him anything more than an almost 2000 square foot suite when you can book (or comp) the adjoining room to someone else?

In addition, Brian Hodge claims that he was staying in room 32-134.

So the questions remain unanswered. Why did Paddock utilize room 32-134 at all? How and when did he gain access to this room? Why did he even need access to this room? Why did he break the window in 32-134 when he had plenty of windows in 32-135 that would have given him the same or better line of sight on anything he was shooting at? When did he break these windows? Which windows did he fire out of and when?

Why did he place cameras in front of room 32-134 when this would show nothing but a view across the hall? Why didn't he place the cameras in front of the door of 32-135, from which vantage he would have gotten at least some view of anyone approaching either room from a distance?

Which door did he fire the supposed 200 rounds through? When he received no return fire whatsoever, why didn't he just open his door to get a clear look (and clear shot) at the unarmed intruder who supposedly startled him? Why did he spray his rounds blindly and injure Campos, then ignore Campos and wait six full minutes to fire his next rounds?

stickdog, thanks for your efforts on this thread. If Paddock was planning something like this, and say he was intelligent and meticulous, and he was well connected with the casino & had money too, why would he risk utilizing 32-134 without renting it himself beforehand? The TV interview with Hodge I linked to, he mentioned how he had gone downstairs for a meal, before going back up to his room, getting to his floor at exactly the same time as when the shooting started. How long was Hodge away from his room, didnt sound like all day, idk.

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To summarize:

If Paddock actually rented out the adjoining room, something that I have never heard anyone claim except iamwhoiam, then that adjoining room was room 32-134.

However, while it is possible to rent out both the huge 32-135 suite and adjoining room 32-134 because they have adjoining interior doors as do many hotel rooms, nobody has ever claimed that both of these rooms were booked by Paddock, who was after all just a single person who would have no need of an extra bedroom and bathroom whatsoever.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/paddoc ... index.html

He reportedly used Danley's slot machine card to gamble at the Mandalay Bay's casino, according to Clark County Commission Chairman Steve Sisolak. It's not clear when he first showed up at the hotel, but he checked into the suite and an adjoining room on the 32nd floor on Thursday, September 28.
And then, shortly after 10 p.m. on Sunday, Paddock apparently swung a heavy hammer to smash out two windows, one in the room and the other in the suite. He opened fire on an unsuspecting crowd attending a country music festival 32 stories below. Round after round hailed down in rapid bursts for nine, 10, up to 11 minutes. It felt like an eternity.

Fake news! According to other accounts, the suite was comped, but Paddock paid for the adjoining room. Also, his downstairs neighbor had the suite below and adjoining room. Not uncommon.

It's referenced in the thread above, and everywhere on the Internet. I found it--this time--in 10 seconds via Google search. If you look for facts, or purported facts, you will find them. Please make a note of it.

My guess is in two or three days you will forget you have even read this.

And remember: Everything you and Mac have ever feared in your deep dark dank corners is true. And the truth is much, much worse than anything you have ever feared. Not only that, but every interaction you have in the public fora is under surveillance. Every act of intuition, every conclusion you reach... The closer you come to the truth, the more will be done to distance you from it.

True story.

Have a nice day!

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My guess is in two or three days you will forget you have even read this.

Maybe you have already...

[Brentos]

Here is Hodge in a live interview confirming that police told him that his room was the room that the suspect was in, when he gave his room# to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vOBTa ... u.be&t=501

I believe Hodge has claimed elsewhere that he was in room 32-134. Room 32-134 is the room with the other broken window, if you believe the floor plans provided on the internet, and the NYTimes. So something is not adding up here, since there are conflicting reports. If the media presented floor plans are correct, the only adjoining room is 32-134. The CNN article says that Paddock rented an adjoining room, which would had to have been 32-134. This totally does not jive with Hodge's story. Hodge has connections to the casino industry from Australia, before working in Hollywood. Hodge is either telling porkies, or someone else is.

I trust NYTimes and CNN about as much as I trust someone like Laura Loomer. Laura has the bonus that she actually tried to act like an investigative journalist, at least with Campos, rather than simply regurgitate information fed them. About all that can be inferred from the torrents of BS spun by both mainstream and social media, is where inconsistencies lie, since a vast majority is hearsay, projection, or perhaps deliberate disinfo. Partly why I was curious about actual witness accounts, to get a feel for what they thought happened, since they were actually there. I believe that Gio & gf did see someone firing outside NYNY, since they saw it with their own eyes and the lady in PlanetHollywood did hear separate gunfire, almost 2 miles away. Looks like Hooters became a safe zone for many people, that became a staging area. Yet was there a deliberate attempt to create more chaos to subvert EMT & police? Based on the scanner audio talking about "diversions", it might be possible, that the alleged gunfire heard & saw was meant to be just that. The lady in PH also was told by casino staff that they were not meant to talk about what happened in and around PH.

There is also a pattern as well, of attacking concerts, or live events now, this comes hot off the heels of the London concert attack. Not saying that they are related, but interesting that we have 2 in one year.


Also, Here is the NYtimes article stating that Paddock rented 32-134 & 32-135: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/l ... below.html

"He, of course, had no idea what was being planned directly over his head. Hours later, a man on the floor above — in the conjoined rooms of 32-134 (a standard room) and 32-135 (a 1,705-square-foot suite) opened fire on a crowd attending a country music concert across South Las Vegas Boulevard. In each room, the man, Stephen Paddock, broke a floor-to-ceiling window to commit the massacre."

Here is the CourierMail in Australia reporting that Hodge stated that he was staying in room 32-134:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 1e27e93cc8

'“We were hiding in the bushes outside waiting for the police.” Mr Hodge said he was staying in room 32134 while the gunman was in room 32135."'

more here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/ ... sts?page=1

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Here is Hodge in a live interview confirming that police told him that his room was the room that the suspect was in, when he gave his room# to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vOBTa ... u.be&t=501

I believe Hodge has claimed elsewhere that he was in room 32-134. Room 32-134 is the room with the other broken window. So something is not adding up here, since there are conflicting reports. If the media presented floor plans are correct, the only adjoining room is 32-134. The CNN article says that Paddock rented an adjoining room, which would had to have been 32-134. This totally does not jive with Hodge's story. Hodge has connections to the casino industry from Australia, before working in Hollywood. Hodge is either telling porkies, or someone else is.

I trust NYTimes and CNN about as much as I trust someone like Laura Loomer. Laura has the bonus that she actually tried to act like an investigative journalist, at least with Campos, rather than simply regurgitate information fed them. About all that can be inferred from the torrents of BS spun by both mainstream and social media, is where inconsistencies lie, since a vast majority is hearsay, or perhaps deliberate disinfo.

I infer that you're responding to my post.

They're out to get you too, Brentos. They're listening to you now, through your cell phone. You can't even turn it off. And at your door. Drones fly overhead and capture your wifi. They have backdoor decryption. Even the insects are reconnoitering. And passing their information from one to another to their final destination. You're not even safe in your bathroom. There is nowhere to hide. The myth of the Faraday cage is a canard to disarm you.

And while CNN and the NYTimes are part of the solar-system-wide conspiracy to enslave you, Mr. Hodge is as well. And he doesn't even know that he's doing it.

My point for stickdog, one of a number, is that our fair member yhwh was not the only source of information (as stickdog claimed) true or otherwise, re: suite and adjoining rooms. Whether any of the facts presented to us are truetrue is tangential to my post. Not even interesting.

[MacCruiskeen]

It's no wonder stickdog so rarely posts here, and it's no wonder so many other good people have completely given up on this board.

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"I infer that you're responding to my post."

Brentos:
"No, Im responding to the CNN article you posted. Thank you for posting that."

Yes, of course. Just so.

[MacCruiskeen]

Oh, I forgot. Because of his father!

But of course! Explains everything! "Made it, pa!"



The way the hacks rush in with this instant tinpot psychologizing is one of the most nauseating things about these "incidents", every single time. Just four (4) days after the attack, the Tagesspiegel in Berlin carried a full-page article on page 3, advertised pretentiously at the top of page 1 as "A Psychogramme of the Las Vegas Killer". The title of this solemn-silly screed? You guessed it: "His Father's Son". ("Seines Vaters Sohn".)

[MacCruiskeen]

That said, how tedious! This thread has gotten bogged down in minutiae.

1. If it's entertainment you're after, and it is, then visit Vegas. Or watch Ellen™. Or ask Robbie:



2. As William Blake pointed out, more than 200 years ago: "No truth but in minute particulars." (Yes, this too is a generalisation.)

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Truth in minute particulars. Truth in generalities. The arrow may hit the bulls eye, and yet miss the mark.

Or, if you like, right eye to the ground, left eye to the sky. -Iain McGilchrist

[MacCruiskeen]