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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:30 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
Nordic wrote:
well yeah, that's why the "tea party" exists at all. it's largely a media creation, and serves that very function. it's the same reason you saw so much of sarah palin over the last three years also. although she is being seamlessly replacesd by michelle bachman.

overton window 101


It certainly suits some people to have everyone who would criticise Obama for being a corporate stooge always defending him from loud crazy people with guns.


Yep, to pretty much you and Nord. There's this just virulent racial tinged hate by a lot of Americans against Obama for completely fictitious and wrong reasons(he's a "socialist secret muslim, not born in America, pushing a commie agenda trying to kill grannies with healthcare plans"), all of which are born from corporate media tv and radio personalities and then piped down through the public. That brilliant comedic moment of that confused woman having to be corrected by Mccain about Obama being a Muslim(as if being a Muslim itself is bad) was just classic. Most these Tea Party/conservative Americans
are suffering like the rest of us; yet are being tricked into steamvalve their legitimate fears into no man's land.

Often comedians, pundits, etc will say "Where was the anti government Tea Party during 8 years of Bush messing up this country, and pushing wild spending and massive bloated government?" We've all heard that refrain....yet I would also add "Is it me, or does it seem the Tea Party dislikes Obama for the wrong reasons? It seems the reasons why some of us on the left dislike Obama are the very reasons the Tea Party people should be loving him". Some smartly acknowledge though, that no matter how right Obama moves, the right still rejects him. Even the post OBL "credit" didn't last long.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:49 am

I don't like to see expletives in forum posts. Maybe very occasionally might be justified.

Perhaps the ugly expletive "F**k" might be replaced by "The case against.."

Or "Down with.."

Or "For he's a jolly bad fellow -.."

Or "Ya boo sucks to.." a la Nigel Molesworth.

Although the last one may carry connotations of obscenity in the contemporary consciousness, so perhap we might not use that one.

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:04 am

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby norton ash » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:22 am

Obama is a phony.

Oops, that might trigger a sleeping operative.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby crikkett » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:41 am

thurnundtaxis wrote:
crikkett wrote:I heard an opinion (not mine) that the Obama admin, by even allowing the suggestion that Medicaid and SS would be 'on the table', actually forced R's to demonstrate their obstructionist attitudes and out themselves as unwilling to cooperate on the debt ceiling issue at all.


Wow. It never ceases to amaze me how Obama's supporters can contort their reasoning to justify any of this actions! Yeah, he was real "forceful" with the republican's on this one, alright!

Its just like how victims in an abusive relationship justify the arrogant and cruel behavior of their oppressors. The presupposition of a disguised benevolence will allow for any and all injustices, because the victim's low self-esteem requires it to seem that it is their own lack of wisdom which is interpreting the events incorrectly at face value.


This is interesting. I post a suggestion that perhaps the game isn't playing out exactly as talking heads and main-stream stenographers claim, and it gets me tackled, most rigorously.

Low self-esteem? Really?

On another note, every time the Fuck Obama thread returns to the front page my immediate reaction is 'dear Lord what has he done now.' At least this time, it's me.

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby freemason9 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:33 pm

Uh, let's see . . . he is a successful black American male. Now, how does that happen exactly in America? Well, you begin with being humble . . . and then, you follow that up with being even more humble, grateful, and accommodating. After all this, it is hardly surprising that he lacks revolutionary zeal.

By the way, this applies to whiteys as well. You don't reach the upper atmospheres by bucking the system. You must stroke the system lovingly.

INSOFAR as BHO is concerned, I believe he is a corporate fellow. He doesn't intend harm, but he lacks balls. He knows and understands that he is President because a lot of well-connected folks allowed it to happen. He owes.

He owes.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Simulist » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:39 am

crikkett wrote:
thurnundtaxis wrote:Good to see you again, Simulist!

Thanks, Crikkett! Good to see you too.

You also, Ninakat! :sun:
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Simulist » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:31 pm

CNN just reported that, in the debt talks, "Obama is sticking by his guns."

Which gives startlingly little comfort: so often his guns have been aimed at us!
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby freemason9 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:01 pm

Simulist wrote:CNN just reported that, in the debt talks, "Obama is sticking by his guns."

Which gives startlingly little comfort: so often his guns have been aimed at us!


I wasn't aware he had any guns.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Simulist » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:06 pm

freemason9 wrote:
Simulist wrote:CNN just reported that, in the debt talks, "Obama is sticking by his guns."

Which gives startlingly little comfort: so often his guns have been aimed at us!


I wasn't aware he had any guns.

Yeah… He needs to work out more.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:21 pm

Bernie Sanders Calls for Dem Primary Opponent to Obama, But Not Himself
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 3:12pm.

On his weekly appearance on the Thom Hartmann program, in a segment called "Brunch with Bernie," Sen. Sanders (I-Vermont) - in response to two callers to the radio show - called for a Democratic presidential primary opponent to Barack Obama.

During the July 22 broadcast, Sanders accused President Obama of reneging on his promise to protect Social Security and Medicare, and said that the president has moved far to the right. However, Sanders warned that "despair is not an option."

Sanders ignited Twitter when he suggested that it would be a good thing if Obama faced a primary challenge to a caller who wanted the senator to run for president. Sanders told a second caller that "one of the reasons that President Obama has moved as far to the right as he has is that he thinks that he can go all the way and no one will stand up to him."

Although some of the twitter reaction indicated that some listeners thought that Sanders had indicated that he was considering running in a primary, on Friday a senior staff member from his office firmly denied it in a call with BuzzFlash. The senior staffer indicated that that Sanders may have "inartfully" phrased a response when he said that "I am now giving thought to it." But listening closely to the interview, it appears Sanders was responding to encouraging a progressive to run, not declaring his personal intention to enter the primaries.

Senator Sanders, a favorite of economic and social progressives who believe that the distribution of wealth in America has become lopsided, is an independent who caucuses with the Democrats.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Nordic » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:37 pm

unthinkable! the man has a (d) bafter his name, anyone who would suggest primarying him is literally undemocratic!
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:24 am

Abbie Hoffman Was Here

By Mr. Fish

Abbie Hoffman, the wild-haired personification of both the noun and adjective form of the word “riot” in the 1960s, nostalgically revered by the current liberal Democratic wing of the Establishment Party as the Tourette’s of the Anti-Establishmentarian Movement and the joy-buzzing co-confounder of the Yippies, his significance neutered by his infamy, his legacy no more useful to contemporary radical politics than the miniskirt or the lava lamp, famously said, “You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.” This was in 1989, when Hoffman was just 52, the same year that he killed himself, making everyone wonder if freedom wasn’t really just another word for nothing left to lose. His body was found in a converted turkey coop near New Hope, Pa., where I found myself a week ago, seated behind a small lopsided table on the sidewalk outside of Farley’s Bookshop, trying to sell my new book of cartoons and essays about how we’re all doomed to tourists and retirees in white linen shorts, crisp running shoes and “God Bless America!” T-shirts.

Roasting beneath the spectacular rage of the mid-July sun while the delicious scent of Abbie Hoffman’s martyred ghost swirled around my starvation for attention like a home-cooked meal, I started to imagine that if only my book loaded with chocolate chips and cut into bite-sized pieces and I were wearing an apron I might gain some acknowledgement from the public.

A week earlier I was at the Greenlight Bookstore in Brooklyn, drinking red wine from a plastic tumbler and standing before a microphone while the immense rain-soaked windows behind me fogged and perspired, the body heat and carbon dioxide from the overflow crowd overpowering the air conditioning like Bolshevism. The event had been organized by my publisher, Akashic Books, and featured short readings and presentations by a handful of the house’s writers and felt not unlike what I imagined poetry readings at the Six Gallery in San Francisco must’ve been like in the 1950s, more like an Irish wake for the written word than a subdued Lutheran funeral. Following closely behind a short presentation by Adam Mansbach, author of “Go the F**k to Sleep,” this year’s “Chicken Soup for the Soul,” I couldn’t resist saying to the audience, in mock disgust, “Before I begin, let me just say that I’ve spent my entire artistic career saying ‘fuck’ to the most despicable politicians and the most ruthless warmongering men and women of industry and high finance, never realizing that if only I’d said it to sleepless children I’d be on the New York Times bestseller list and not counting nickels to buy my toilet paper.” It was a party.

I remember back when I first saw Dick Lester’s deeply significant 1964 film masterpiece, “A Hard Day’s Night,” and how the scene at the discothèque changed my life forever. It was the part of the movie where we find our lovable heroes, the Beatles, tired of being quarantined in their hotel room between public appearances and they decide to sneak out and go to a club to dance and meet girls. Most remarkable to me, and I was probably 12 at the time, was how cool John Lennon looked by not dancing as the other three were, choosing instead to sit and drink and talk—to philosophize, I guessed, judging by the attentiveness of his listeners and the soigné manner in which he held his cigarette!—with those around him. It seemed antithetical to all that I had been led to believe by the dominant culture about what grooviness and hipness were supposed to look like. What was hipness, particularly for a boy, supposed to look like? Well, the way I understood it was that hipness was largely determined by how well a fella could throw and catch a ball, how handy he was with tools and how gracefully he was able to communicate nonverbally with the opposite sex, whether through dancing, kissing or snubbing. Yet here was Lennon, in a black turtleneck and surrounded by beautiful women, appearing absolutely at home in his own skin, no ball or hammer or ChapStick anywhere in sight, just straight confabulation, pure and simple. The idea that one could appear gorgeous merely by having a conversation was somehow wonderful to me, and I decided to make it my life’s ambition to define my own grooviness by engaging in a never-ending dialogue with as many people as I could. What would be the point, I suddenly realized, of wasting my time trying to emulate the wordless and episodic pantomime that I saw everybody else engaging in with one person at a time?

“Did you make this book yourself?” asked a sapid old lady in half glasses and a pair of powder blue Bermuda shorts approximating the size of the landmass they were named after. She was standing at my sidewalk table, having come from nowhere, caressing the cover of my book like she was hoping to provoke a purr, a needle-thin crucifix hanging from her neck on a chain the width of a thread.

“Yes,” I said, smiling up at her in my Buddy Holly glasses, fresh haircut and three-button blazer, the perfect picture of benign Christianity and cherry-cheeked Americanism. Then she opened the book and concentrated on a random page, mumbling silently to herself the gagline to one of my cartoons. In an instant the sweetness drained from her face and she closed the book and slowly returned it back to its stack, her eyes tearing as if she’d just halved a red onion the size of John the Baptist’s felled head. “Well?” I asked her.

“You should be ashamed of yourself,” she spat, turning away and marching off in the direction of a live klezmer band playing the theme to “Rocky.” What struck me as peculiar was how this woman, who no doubt had lived through the Great Depression, who had seen the bombing of Pearl Harbor and the My Lai Massacre and 9/11, who had witnessed the mind-numbing tragedy of the Holocaust and experienced the devastation of environmental decay and worldwide unrest and famine and public assassination, could react to something I’d drawn as if a new benchmark for unspeakable horror had been set.

“What is ‘Go Fish: How to Win Contempt and Influence People’ about?” I’d said at the Greenlight, referring to the book that I held in my hand, just as the light changed at a nearby intersection and a serpentine line of Brooklyn traffic slowly panned its headlights across my back and sent an elegant succession of shadows pirouetting around the bookstore like joyous slaves. “Let me answer that question by telling you about a young man who wanted nothing more in his life than to be a famous artist,” I said. “He hated school, used to get in trouble for daydreaming all the time. He would lose entire afternoons meditating on the beauty of objects, on the aesthetics of light and shadow, his fingers forever smudged with oil paint, his clothes smelling of turpentine, his heart and mind awash in hope and optimism.” I paused, afraid of choking up.

“For him,” I continued, “there was no higher calling than to be a painter who created beautiful images for the public and who lived his life in service of his craft, his canvases designed for the singular purpose of inspiring people’s souls to grow. That young artist’s name …”—I stopped, looked around the room, then back at the book in my hand—“… was Adolf Hitler. The moral of the story being that if only we lived in a world less inclined to discourage lousy artists from continuing to create shitty art and more inclined to discourage lousy politicians from becoming monsters hellbent on conquering the planet we’d be a lot better off.”

“True,” I said, “if Hitler’s artistic career had been allowed to continue and not been cut short there would be many more crappy oils of quaint churches at dusk and abandoned hay wagons at midday and misty covered bridges at dawn to clutter up the world, but at least there’d also be millions more Jewish doctors, dentists and psychiatrists to absorb all that mediocrity into gaudy frames in their waiting rooms.”
* * *

“What’s your book about,” asked a DNC canvasser with a clipboard and a blue T-shirt bearing the Obama logo just as the Pennsylvania sun was dipping behind the trees. He was watching me stack all my unsold books on my tiny table in preparation for returning them to the bookstore manager inside.

“Huh?” I said.

“Your book there,” he said. “What’s it about?”

“It’s a coming-of-rage book,” I said. He didn’t answer me. “It’s about how constructive nihilism can be when kept on the tip of a pencil and off the point of a fucking bayonet.” It had been a long day.

“You registered to vote?” he asked.

“Yeah,” I said.

“You supporting Obama?” he said.

“Why?” I said.

“I just want to know.”

“No,” I said, “I mean why should I support him?”

“Forget it,” he said.

I did.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:08 am

Disillusion Now
Is There Life After Obamamania?

By ANDREW LEVINE

The Obama presidency has been outstanding at one thing: ridding liberals of illusions about itself. It has also been good at undoing illusions about America’s duopoly party system and other undemocratic facets of our electoral politics. But the deepest reasons for the sorry state of the current political scene have yet to reach widespread awareness. In this respect, we are not much better off than we were back in the day when the Great Capitulator was still perceived as an agent of change – not for the worse, as he has surely been, but for the better.

In liberal quarters, where it had once been rampant, Obamamania is now a distant memory, having given way to profound disappointment. Recovering Obamaniacs understand that Obama is a spineless leader who talks out of both sides of his mouth, and that wherever his sympathies lie, in practice he is not on the peoples’ side. The fecklessness of the Democratic Party is also, by now, well understood: how could it be otherwise when Democrats and Republicans feed from the same trough and when, unlike Republicans, Democrats, when pushed, always cave and never fight?

However, Obama induced disillusionment has yet to translate into resistance within Democratic ranks, much less rebellion. Liberals are still on board, though the so-called enthusiasm gap of 2010 is likely to grow. In a healthier political climate, there would be a flourishing Dump Obama movement. As of now, there is not even an inkling of one.

Evidently, liberals are moved by the thought that the alternative is worse – a point pressed relentlessly by scaremongering pundits. Rachel Maddow is among the best of them. She does fault Obama for this and that – how could she not! But the burden of her nightly performance on MSNBC is to put Republican loonyness on public display. Thus she functions as a cheerleader for the Lesser Evil side, even as she points out its shortcomings. Count on Team Obama to take full advantage.

In recent weeks, as Obama has struggled to implement policies even more reactionary than Republicans proposed just a few months ago, one might conclude, facetiously but plausibly, that the man is a Republican mole. He is not, of course; not literally. But it is becoming ever more clear that Obama, like most Democrats, is effectively an old school Republican; that he is what a Republican would now be had the party of corporate America not been taken over first by Goldwaterites, then by Reaganites, and now by the useful idiots later-day Reaganites recruited into its ranks.

Thanks to the terror these Tea Partiers and theocrats strike in the hearts of the plutocrats who empowered them, the actual GOP has become the useful idiots’ party, a party of absurdity and diehard devotion to ideas that only moral and intellectual cretins could embrace. Because Obama is desperate to situate himself in the dead center of whatever spectrum there is, their obstinacy works well for thwarting his efforts to appease them. But, as the theatrics around the debt ceiling (non) crisis attest, it can lead to consequences that even Republican paymasters -- most of whom are just greedy, not stupid -- cannot abide.

One must feel for those plutocrats; their field of presidential candidates is a joke. Michele Bachmann, the Tea Party favorite, is only one of a host of certifiable whack jobs; and the one barely credible candidate they have, Mitt Romney, is widely, deeply and justifiably despised. This is why, no matter how awful Obama has been and no matter how much worse he has lately become, we are unlikely to see the back of him any time soon. Liberals understand this, even as they fret senselessly over the prospect of a President Bachmann or her functional equivalent.

It is even becoming clear that Obama is as much a (ruling) class warrior as any self-declared Republican. The difference is just that his style is kinder and gentler. This is what one would expect from someone focused on winning over respectable apolitical middle of the roaders, not angry know-nothings who identify with the clowns vying to run against him.

Most liberals therefore now realize that, whether or not Obama wins in 2012, the inequalities that afflict us will get worse and that the prospects for everyone not at the top of the income and wealth distribution will become increasingly bleak. They realize too that our Commander-in-Chief, in thrall to the “defense” industry and the Pentagon brass, will not end or even diminish the self-defeating and manifestly indefensible wars he inherited; his Nobel Prize notwithstanding. Quite the contrary, he’ll rebrand those wars or expand them, while getting new ones – some secret, some not -- going. They know too that our government’s post 9/11 assault on civil liberties will get worse, that environmental policies will continue to fall short of what is urgently needed, and that, in nearly all significant respects, a truly awful status quo will continue for an indefinite future.

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How did we get to this point? The easy answer is that it’s the corporations’ fault, especially Wall Street’s – that moneyed interests have seized control of the state. It is widely understood too that rotten jurisprudence, handed down by a retrograde Supreme Court, is at least partly to blame.

All this is true: corporations do call the shots in Washington and in the state capitals, and thanks to a series of anti-democratic Supreme Court rulings, based disingenuously on First Amendment guarantees of free expression, we now live in a world where corporations, not human beings (the very rich excepted), enjoy substantive (not just formal) civil and political rights.

Nevertheless, the underlying condition that makes all this possible remains largely unacknowledged. This is because liberals and “progressives” took Margaret Thatcher’s dictum that “there is no alternative,” TINA, too much to heart. Thatcher herself had in mind alternatives to whatever neo-liberal machination she was promoting at the time. That kind of TINAism has long been a dead letter. But the implicit claim that there is no alternative to capitalism itself survives; indeed, it has come to be the conventional wisdom in what passes for a Left in the Land of the Free.

It was not always so. Well into the final decades of the twentieth century, a debate raged everywhere, even in the USA, between those who sought alternatives to capitalism and those who sought left alternatives within capitalism. Because capitalism remained entrenched, the latter view, not surprisingly, won the day; and not surprisingly too, left departures undertaken under its aegis became increasingly “moderate” as the specter of revolutionary change waned. But as long as there was a rival economic system in place, even an unappealing one, the idea that capitalism could and should be replaced by a qualitatively better economic structure remained alive. That prospect inspired great undertakings, and made life better for (almost) everyone.

By the middle of the twentieth century, the Soviet Union was no longer a pole of attraction for most of the anti-capitalist left; and no other ostensibly socialist country, not even China, quite took its place. Nevertheless, it was not until the collapse of the Soviet Union and China’s embarkation down what used to be called “the capitalist road” that the idea of a genuine alternative to capitalism, a socialist alternative, fell into the almost total eclipse that persists to this day.

As TINA thinking took hold, enterprising capitalists, smelling blood, found it timely to take a more aggressive tack. Accordingly, they breathed new life into the reactionary forces that are always among us. Before long, liberals were drawn in too. Now, in Obama’s America, the process has reached its apotheosis. Even more than in the Clinton era, the Democratic Party, formerly a pale cousin of a once vibrant European social democracy, has become a party of outright reaction.

As recently as two years ago, in the face of a far-reaching financial meltdown and a devastating recession, it seemed that the tide was about to turn. It even seemed that Obama would lead the charge. However, that was an illusion, an expression of a wish, into which reality soon intruded. In a word, it didn’t quite work out the way liberals expected. Indeed, the Obama presidency turned into the opposite of what his supporters had imagined.

That process has lately accelerated. For more than eighty years, regardless of the balance of power between capital and labor, a top priority of governments superintending capitalist economies had been to keep unemployment within acceptable bounds. On this point, there was no “American exceptionalism.” Thus, as recently as 2009, when the Obama administration launched its inadequate, but right-headed, stimulus program, saving jobs was still Priority Number One. But, speechifying aside, job creation is no longer of much concern to the shapers of American economic policy; they are as determined as any right-wing economist to let markets deal with this and all other problems. Ronald Reagan, whose name Obama has taken to invoking, found it useful to pretend that ordinary people would become better off as wealth “trickles down.” Feeling little need to drag out that pretense again, Obama, along with the rest of official Washington, now just takes for granted the pre-Depression era nostrum, ever useful to financiers and other non-productive “malefactors, that deficit reduction, not job creation, is the main thing and lately, it seems, the only thing.

Because they still feel somewhat obliged to placate their pathologically loyal base, they do soften their support for deficit reduction with moralizing prattle about “shared sacrifice.” But all that means, as Obama has made clear, is that they would prefer to pare back the affirmative state a tad less, and to make up for the difference by taxing, rich and poor alike, just a little bit more.

No doubt, Obama’s inclination to capitulate first and prevaricate later is partly to blame. But so is a failure on the part of those who rightly fault his governance to recall what used to be well understood: that, to change the world for the better, it is indispensable, in the end, to transform the economic structure within which political actors, and the legal and political institutions they operate, function.

To be sure, it is not necessary to take on capitalism to turn back the regressive policy departures of the past thirty years. But for reconstructing a political culture in which “change we can believe in” or rather change worth believing in is a feasible, non-illusory prospect, we do need to restore faith in the possibility of transcending the horizons of the economic system that has brought us to our present state.

With so many scales removed from the eyes of those who have, for decades, forsaken the idea of ending capitalism, there is reason to hope that the pendulum will soon swing back. For how long, after all, can it remain unnoticed by people free from the illusions Obama’s presidency has shattered that the lives of the vast majority of people become ever more impoverished as productive capacities expand; in other words that capitalist development thwarts the rational deployment of the forces it brings into being?

Compared to the decades when there was real progress in making peoples’ lives better and their conditions more equal, there is now enough productive capacity around to satisfy needs – for material things, for leisure and for meaningful work – to a vastly greater extent. But just the opposite is happening. Can even a bought and paid for political class and a servile media forever prevent the people they rule over from realizing this and from drawing the obvious conclusion?

If the answer is No, as I believe it is, how much longer can it be before the great eclipse of socialist theory and practice begins to recede?

By making it impossible for all but the most obtuse to maintain the illusions that brought him into the White House, Barack Obama succeeded in turning the hopes of millions into despair. But, in doing so, he also caused illusions to fall at a breathtaking pace. That process is nearly complete thanks in large part to Obama’s efforts, revealed at last, to put even Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in jeopardy. Obama has finally made it all but impossible not to see what his presidency is about.

Obama inspired disillusionment has been an unhappy and painful, but potentially salutary, process. Now, having all but run its course, the need is urgent and the time is ripe for the mother of all illusions, the one that sustained the rest – the idea that there is no alternative to capitalism and that attempts to transcend its horizons are bound to come to grief and ultimately to fail -- to pass away as well. That is the only way that even the modest changes liberals thought Obama would bring can come anywhere close to realization.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:19 pm

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Emails Show White House Promotes Genetically Engineered Crops in Wildlife Refuges

The Obama administration is supporting genetically engineered (GE) agriculture in more than 50 national wildlife refuges across the country and watchdog groups say internal emails among top administration officials reveal that the GE plots are a priority in the White House.

Earlier this year, a settlement in a lawsuit filed by the watchdog group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) and its allies halted the planting of GE crops in US Fish and Wildlife Service wildlife refuges in northeastern states. Now PEER claims the Obama administration is working with the biotech lobby to shield GE plots in refuges from future legal challenges.

A January 10, 2011 email obtained by PEER reveals that biotech lobbyist Adrianne Massey contacted Peter Schmeissner, the senior policy analyst for the White House Office of Science and Technology, about the legal challenge to GE crop plantings in northeastern refuges.

Massey, who has made a career out of promoting biotechnology across the world, promotes the public policy of the Biotechnology Industry Organization (BIO), a lobby funded by Monsanto and other biotech firms.

The Obama administration recently created the White House Agricultural Biotechnology Working Group and GE crop opponents claim the interagency group has teamed up with BIO to boost exports of GE crops to countries that have grown leery of America's increasingly transgenic food supply.

Massey also emailed Schmeissner about legally mandated environmental assessments of GE crops in wildlife refuges. PEER contends the emails are evidence of "collusion" between the Obama administration and the biotech lobby, but it remains unclear how much sway BIO actually holds within the administration. The Office of Science and Technology did not respond to an inquiry from Truthout.

The biotechnology working group features top-level officials from almost every agency under the Obama administration involved in agricultural trade and beyond, including the State Department, the Justice Department, the Office of Budget and Management, the Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Environmental Protection Agency.

Other internal emails reveal that Schmeissner asked top officials in the working group to comment on new environmental assessments of GE crop plantings in refuges across the country. The mandatory assessment can help the government defend the GE crop plantings from legal challenges. So. how did tiny parcels GE crops in wildlife refuges become a priority for top White House officials?

For years, the Fish and Wildlife Service has allowed farming on national wildlife refuges for the purpose of habitat restoration. The agency claims farming helps develop native grasslands and provides food for wildlife.

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Deborah Rocque, a top official for the wildlife refuge system, told Truthout that GE crops restore habitats in ways that conventional crops cannot. Crops that are genetically engineered to tolerate herbicide (such as Monsanto's Roundup Ready corn and soy) provide beneficial ground cover and the herbicides can be sprayed across entire fields, killing only unwanted weeds, but sparring the GE crops.

Conservationists can debate whether blanketing parcels of wildlife refuges with GE crops and plant-killing chemicals is sound land management practice or an ecologically dangerous experiment, but PEER believes that BIO and the Obama administration are not interested in habitat restoration.

"The White House is engaging in a joint effort with Monsanto ... and as we understand it, it's part of a White House pledge to double exports," said PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch.

The US has had trouble in recent years exporting GE crops to Europe, where many consumers are skeptical about GE foods and some countries mandate that foods containing GE ingredient must be labeled. Now that more than 90 percent of corn and soy grown in America is GE, the government has a vested interest in promoting the acceptance of GE crops in other countries.

"These plans are based on the curious notion that wildlife benefit from having the small slivers of habitat set aside for them covered by genetically engineered soybeans," Ruch said of the program in an earlier release. "To boost US exports, the Obama administration is forcing wildlife refuges into political prostitution."

PEER claims that Fish and Wildlife policy did not allow for GE crops in wildlife refuges unless found essential for some purpose, and some European countries pointed to the policy as evidence that GE crops are not environmentally sound. So by using environmental assessments to justify GE crop plantings in picturesque wildlife refuges, the Obama administration and agribusiness firms can clean up the tarnished image of GE crops worldwide.

Rocque, however, said that Fish and Wildlife never had a policy whether or not GE crops should be planted in refuges and it simply makes sense to use herbicide-resistant GE crops as a habitat restoration tool.

Ruch said PEER filed its first legal challenge after being contacted by Fish and Wildlife biologists who opposed using refuge land to grow GE crops. PEER later obtained an internal email among Fish and Wildlife officials that the group believes is evidence that USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack has put pressure on the agency to get in line with the broader administration's stance on GE agriculture.

In the January 14 email, Interior Department Deputy Secretary David Hayes tells Fish and Wildlife Deputy Director Tom Ashe and Interior Department official Tom Strickland that Vilsack is "somewhat exercised that the Administration is not being consistent in supporting genetically engineered crops."

"This is the White House telling Fish and Wildlife to get out of the way," Ruch said.

Rocque, however, said she is unaware of any internal pressure from the White House to promote the planting of GE crops in wildlife refuges.
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