Michael James Riconosciuto

[Sounder]

wrote...

So, what I am saying is that if we can really lay the story out here, from multiple perspectives, then each of us should be better able to figure out what is actually going on.

Bullshit, if you wanted to 'figure out what is going on' you would not be bringing all the crap propaganda that you grace us with.
I'm thinkin that you get a doggie bisquit every time you bring into question anybody or thing that comnnects to MR.

I for one do not want to hear any more 'story' that has a VM byline until I hear from VM an apology or explanation in regard to her defamation of desertfae.

[American Dream]

Sounder, of course I do have a opinion about what is going on, and it is developing as time goes on. As more information comes out here, over time, and as I think this all over more, my opinion develops even more.

I still can't claim to understand exactly the roots of this though- when and how Rachel and Virginia decided they didn't have a good feeling about the other, who else exactly was involved, that sort of thing.

If you do think you understand this, feel free to lay it out.

[Dr_Doogie]

Doogie, what are your thoughts about the helicopter story above and about Riconosciuto in general?

I believe that a helicopter did buzz Rachel's house.

I take Rachel's word that this incident occured during a series of phone calls that began with Michael's warning.

I know that Rachel believes that the two events are linked.

Could the two events have been coincidence? Possibly, but the timing does seem suspicious.

I do know that the hypothesis that you have earlier offered - that Michael may have arranged the copter visit to bolster his claims - is absurd. If a federal prisoner can make a phone call to arrange to have a military helicopter harrass someone, he would seem to have had enough juice to have not being thrown into prison on allegedly trumped up charges. Wouldn't the very people required to pull off such a stunt be the same people who he claims framed him?

[chiggerbit]

Nevermind my question to Anita. I found I had the answer all along--he had the surgery in Springfield, MO. Weird facility, if it's the one I think it is. Looks spooky to me.

[Anita]

Nevermind my question to Anita. I found I had the answer all along--he had the surgery in Springfield, MO. Weird facility, if it's the one I think it is. Looks spooky to me.

It's a nightmare to think about it. I had just gone public with some of Michael's prior warning letters, next thing you know, he's shipped off to Springfield and tossed into the hole. He had been diagnosed with prostate cancer and there was reluctance at the prison to acknowledge his rapidly rising psa as a problem. We tried to suggest facilities that could handle the surgery because they were dragging their feet. They waited, then finally sent him to Springfield for his surgery, losing his medical charts in the process. He arrived at the facility where there was an inmate who had previously attacked him, so he was put into solitary confinement for his own protection. The reasons don't change the environment, he got one phone call per month, a one inch pencil, and was not given time out of his cell, even though it is required that they give an hour for exercise. I have drawers full of medical documents, prison paperwork and letters from that time period, trying to get his medical record straightened out and get the surgery done before it was too late. He was in the hole for more than six months, suffering severe complications from the prostate surgery and being left without medical supplies. I recall mentioning it on the radio show and I also did set up a defense fund for Michael. VM makes it sound like I called her begging for money, that is ridiculous. In the end, I spent a lot of money on a lawyer who did nothing, the case was too big for him to take pro bono and I couldn't pay his fees. Right now Michael's dealing with people sending NMN "articles" to assorted prisoners trying to instigate problems. This also happened during the Thompson trial, VM posted the puppetmaster hit piece (memorialized on this thread) on the opening day of the trial, then the article was sent into the prison to several inmates. I guess the NMN girls are angry at their current exposure and working a little retaliation.

[American Dream]

So if Michael Riconosciuto has previously tried to manipulate the system in order to give testimony in California (Hamlin and/or Thompson) and also to get transfered to a facility of his choosing for medical care, how possible is it that he might think of participation in a Jimmy Hughes trial in California as advantageous to himself personally?

[Dr_Doogie]

AD, has anyone said that Michael IS participating in the trial? This trial is a long ways away from developing witness lists - why don't you and the NMN girls wait to see what happens before raising issues that presently DO NOT EXIST???

[American Dream]

AD, has anyone said that Michael IS participating in the trial?

When I raised a question about "the influence of people allied with Gunderson and/or Riconosciuto on all that is happening", it was Anita Langley who responded by saying that I should start a separate thread with regards to "which material witnesses" Rachel should trust.

[Dr_Doogie]

Again, no witness list has been developed. Who Rachel should trust and who will be called as a witness against Hughes are two very separate issues. And, by your own admission above, you were raising this issue prior to Anita's statement. Anita is not calling witnesses. Rachel is not calling witnesses. The California Department of Justice will be deciding who to call to make the case.

[American Dream]

So, Doogie- what do you think of Riconosciuto, and of the possibility of him being designated a witness in the Hughes trial?

[American Dream]

Anita Langley wrote:

The woman is a total idiot. Apparently she can say anything she wants and present it as fact. The few things she says that are true hardly matter next to the lies.

In the puppetmaster article (ahem, trash piece) that is posted earlier on this thread, she threw out the name of an attorney that she said I was raising money to pay. The attorney she named is not the attorney I hired, I never told her the attorney's name, she just guessed because she knew this guy had helped a bit. (Big stunning news, family members hire an attorney). The attorney she did name was forced to leave his practice thanks to her posting his name, he was stalked and terrorized relentlessly. She tossed him out because he had given a bit of assistance during the timeframe of the McGowan homicides. Facts don't matter here, she's getting her satisfaction just harassing anyone connected to material witnesses. I don't know how Jeff can condone this sort of behavior.

If you are going to throw around such serious allegations you owe it to all of us to be much more specific.

To be very clear, the attorney that you are referring to is Terry Spears, the one that Virginia named in the article?

More importantly, in what ways was he " stalked and terrorized relentlessly", by whom, and how do we know that it was for the reasons you insinuate?

[Anita]

I don't give a shit what you believe and I don't owe you anything. I'm laying out a chain of facts that can be researched by legitimate investigators when they decide to focus on the sideshow freaks. Do you think I'm here because I need to convince you of something? lols, I have a life, I don't care what you think. I'd offer you enough verbal rope to hang yourself with but you brought your own. I welcome the current investigations and haven't the remotest bit of worry that someone who actually matters to this investigation might put me under a microscope and examine the veracity of my statements. Obviously, there are people who should be worried about being hit by RICO, such as those who paid, and were paid, for sockpuppet attacks on the wikipedia page of a material witness to several homicides. These attacks included allegations that Michael was involved in the homicides of two of Thompson's victims. Since Virginia McCullough actually had the nerve to tell the mother of Valerie McDonald that her daughter was murdered by Michael, even though there are numerous articles and plenty of evidence of Thompson's involvement, this is certainly a smoking gun. Apparently these people have gotten away with their crimes for so long, they have forgotten that there are very serious repercussions to getting caught assisting killers by obfuscating homicide investigations. Witness tampering and intimidation are also very serious crimes. They may have escaped prosecution in the past due to the "doddering old woman" routine that Virginia pulls out of her ass when it suits her, but that wears thin when an ongoing trend of hanging out witnesses and their friends and family gets noticed as more than just a passing bit of idiot folly.

[American Dream]

Hmmm...I'd like other people reading here to notice that Anita Langley previously made some serious-sounding allegations, but when asked to substantiate her story, even by simply giving the most basic information about whatever-exactly-it-is that she has alleged happened, she instead just changes the subject...

[Anita]

People here can choose whether they think I'm dishonest or decide they don't have enough information and reserve judgement, a fair and reasonable set of choices. Funny how you don't want to call me out about the paid wikipedia sockpuppet evidence, yet you think I owe you details that you don't deserve to have. I would think sane, honest and at least semi-lucid people would be able to deduce from earlier points I've made why I am not giving you details. Go cry in your milk.

[American Dream]

Hmmm.... So you won't retract your allegations but neither will you substantiate them?

This does not suggest reliability, at all.

For that matter, do you really expect us to believe that Michael Riconosciuto is some kind of reliable source?

Certainly he got has been involved with a with lot of black ops and underground criminal activity, but without a doubt he has spewed a lot of garbage, too...