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by lupercal » Tue May 17, 2011 12:04 am
Dominique Strauss-Kahn conspiracy theories mount
Dominique Strauss-Kahn gave an unpublished interview only two weeks before his arrest in which he suggested he could imagine a scenario in which he might be set up for rape, it emerged on Monday.
http://www.nycppl.com/dominique-strauss ... -news.html
by Jeff » Tue May 17, 2011 12:25 am
Dominique Strauss-Kahn: What's in a reputation?
John Lichfield, Tuesday, 17 May 2011
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It is hazardous to comment on any "he said, she-said" sexual allegation. It is a fact, however, that the Parisian media-political village has known, and sniggered, for years at DSK's reputation. He was, it was said, not just a man who had frequent sexual affairs. That was common enough in French politics and resolutely not something that the French media bothered with. The unpublished reports about DSK went further. He was, it was said, a man who could not safely be left alone with a young woman.
Is that not a relevant piece of information about a politician – however brilliant, however charismatic – who has topped the presidential opinion polls for months? And yet, with one or two brief, noble exceptions, the French media threw a veil over the darker side of DSK's relations with women until Saturday evening, when he was arrested in New York and charged with the attempted rape of a chambermaid in a Manhattan hotel.
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In 2002, at the age of 22, Ms Banon said she had gone along to interview DSK in an empty flat for her first book. "He [name withheld] wanted to hold my hand, then my arm," she told the TV show. "We ended up scuffling on the ground. I kicked him. He unfastened my bra and tried to take down my jeans.
"I used the word 'rape' to try to scare him. It didn't scare him. He was like a champanzee in rut."
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On the "women" question, in his interview with Libération, DSK was smug. He almost seemed to invite exposure. "Yes, I like women. So what?" he said. "For years there has been talk of photos [of me] taking part in giant orgies but I've never seen anything published... Let them show us what they've got."
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by praeclarus » Tue May 17, 2011 1:03 am
by vanlose kid » Tue May 17, 2011 1:10 am
Monday, 16 May 2011
The jailbird who likes women
Contributor: "YYC"
Dominique Strauss-Kahn to face fresh sex assault complaint
French writer Tristane Banon claims the IMF chief acted like a 'rutting chimpanzee' in an attack on her nine years ago
This article is so chock full of grossly unethical sentiments and behaviours that it's almost hard to believe there could be such low standards among the politically well-connected. But what can you expect when smirking(video) and/or rutting chimps are considered presidential material?
[Banon] says she consulted a lawyer at the time, but was persuaded not to take action by her mother, a regional councillor in the Socialist party and friend of the Strauss-Kahn family.
This I find unconscionable. What kind of mother puts her own social/political standing ahead of her daughter's welfare? A political one, I guess, devoid of natural human empathy.
"Yes, I like women ... so what?" He said he could see himself becoming the victim of a honey trap: "a woman raped in a car park and who's been promised 500,000 or a million euros to invent such a story ..."
Scratch a man who says he "likes" women, and you'll find a misogynist. If he truly liked them they'd know it because they'd feel respected. At least two seem to feel very disrespected.
What he's really saying is: "It's important you think I'm a stud."
The fact that he anticipated his "liking" women would be used against him points to a very guilty conscience; he was already preparing his defence (even ready to play the antisemite card).
Jean-Marie Le Guen, a Socialist party MP who has known Strauss-Kahn for 25 years, said the story was "not credible" and inconsistent with what he knew of the politician's character. "Seduction, yes, but no way would he use constraint or violence. A certain number of facts, and certain aspects of the story we are hearing from the press, make this not credible."
So, did Le Guen accompany Strauss-Kahn on all his assignations? Otherwise, how could he be so certain of his proclivities?
Inconsistent with his character? He's on shaky ground with his third wife. That alone suggests he doesn't exactly have a way with women.
"What they are asking us to believe … it's just hallucinations. I'm a doctor and I know this can happen."
He's a doctor so he knows the accusers are hallucinating. Wow, then they must be, eh? Makes one wonder what else he knows that he would use his medical credentials to explain away.
"Politicians … enjoy a particular tolerance on this subject," [Libération editor Nicolas Demorand] wrote. "Part of the shock comes also from the unusual scene, until now unthinkable here: police arresting a top-level politician on a matter of morals."
With this statement Demorand indicts all politicians, and then he calls it merely "a matter of morals", as if he knew the meaning of the word. It's a matter of morals when you cheat on your first, second and then third wife. But it's a criminal matter when you force yourself sexually on another person.
Good for the judge who refused "DSK" bail (it would have been so easy for him to just skip), but would she have done the same had the accused been an American would-be president?
Okay, having said all that, we can't forget that the guy was IMF chief, and they don't come any more cold blooded than that. Consequently, he does probably have some well-earned enemies who might try to frame him.
Yeah, but then I keep remembering his own admission that he "likes" women.
http://yayacanada.blogspot.com/2011/05/ ... women.html
by Jeff » Tue May 17, 2011 1:19 am
praeclarus wrote:What happened to this place? Since when does it have to be
black or white?
DrVolin wrote:I wouldn't be surprised at all if the allegations were true and this was a political hit.
by Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue May 17, 2011 2:21 am
SUNDAY, MARCH 27, 2011
IMRAN KAHN Demands Apology From Pakistan To Bangladesh
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has demanded an official apology from the Government of Pakistan to the people of Bangladesh for the atrocities allegedly committed by the Pakistan Army in 1971.
Imran Khan stunned everyone during a live television show hosted by Hamid Mir on Geo News and Geo Super TV channels on Wednesday afternoon just a few moments before the start of a cricket match between Pakistan and West Indies in Mirpur, Bangladesh.
Hamid Mir invited Imran Khan in his live TV show on March 23, which was Pakistan Day. He asked a question to Imran Khan about the expected behaviour of Bangladeshi crowd in Mirpur. Imran Khan said that Bangladeshis will support the Pakistani cricket team.
Hamid Mir informed Imran Khan that today (March 23) is Pakistan Day and Bangladeshis will support Pakistani cricket team “Don’t you think that the time has come that the Pakistani government must apologise to the people of Bangladesh for Army operation in 1971”? Imran Khan immediately agreed with Hamid Mir and said that previously he was also of the opinion that Army operation was a good thing because there was no independent media in Pakistan in 1971. Imran Khan said that when he went to England in 1971, his Bengali friends told him the reality of the Army operation. Imran Khan said that he experienced the love and affection of Bangladeshis during an exhibition match in Mirpur in 1989.
He said that the Army operations always created hatred in Pakistan and we must apologise to Bangladeshis. Responding another question, Imran Khan said “we must learn lessons from our past mistakes and we should not repeat these mistakes in Balochistan and tribal areas where we have started Army operations on the US pressure”. Cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan is the first ever Pakistani dignitary who has demanded an apology from Pakistan to Bangladesh on a live TV show in Pakistan
by Joe Hillshoist » Tue May 17, 2011 2:28 am
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:http://qutaibaprotocol.blogspot.com/201 ... -from.htmlSUNDAY, MARCH 27, 2011
IMRAN KAHN Demands Apology From Pakistan To Bangladesh
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has demanded an official apology from the Government of Pakistan to the people of Bangladesh for the atrocities allegedly committed by the Pakistan Army in 1971.
Imran Khan stunned everyone during a live television show hosted by Hamid Mir on Geo News and Geo Super TV channels on Wednesday afternoon just a few moments before the start of a cricket match between Pakistan and West Indies in Mirpur, Bangladesh.
Hamid Mir invited Imran Khan in his live TV show on March 23, which was Pakistan Day. He asked a question to Imran Khan about the expected behaviour of Bangladeshi crowd in Mirpur. Imran Khan said that Bangladeshis will support the Pakistani cricket team.
Hamid Mir informed Imran Khan that today (March 23) is Pakistan Day and Bangladeshis will support Pakistani cricket team “Don’t you think that the time has come that the Pakistani government must apologise to the people of Bangladesh for Army operation in 1971”? Imran Khan immediately agreed with Hamid Mir and said that previously he was also of the opinion that Army operation was a good thing because there was no independent media in Pakistan in 1971. Imran Khan said that when he went to England in 1971, his Bengali friends told him the reality of the Army operation. Imran Khan said that he experienced the love and affection of Bangladeshis during an exhibition match in Mirpur in 1989.
He said that the Army operations always created hatred in Pakistan and we must apologise to Bangladeshis. Responding another question, Imran Khan said “we must learn lessons from our past mistakes and we should not repeat these mistakes in Balochistan and tribal areas where we have started Army operations on the US pressure”. Cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan is the first ever Pakistani dignitary who has demanded an apology from Pakistan to Bangladesh on a live TV show in Pakistan
by Nordic » Tue May 17, 2011 2:30 am
by vanlose kid » Tue May 17, 2011 2:44 am
France questions itself over Dominique Strauss-Kahn's 'open secret'
Media taboo shielding political elite had kept IMF chief's record in realms of gossip until the alleged sex assault in New York
Angelique Chrisafis in Paris
guardian.co.uk, Monday 16 May 2011 20.47 BST
Less than three weeks ago, Dominique Strauss-Kahn sat down in a Paris restaurant for an off-the-record lunch with two journalists from the daily Libération. The IMF chief outlined the three biggest personal hurdles in his relentless campaign to become president of France: "Money, women and being a Jew."
He started with women. "Yes I like women, so what?" he asked. "For years, there's been talk of photos of a giant orgy, but I've never seen them come out," he added, challenging his opponents to produce long-rumoured pictures of a night at a posh swingers' club dating back decades. He said he had warned President Nicolas Sarkozy (while they stood side by side at the urinals of the gents during a recent international summit) to stop smearing him over his private life. Strauss-Kahn then volunteered to the journalists a hypothetical example of something that could bring him down: "A woman raped in a parking lot who is promised half a million euros to make up her story."
Before Strauss-Kahn's opponents began throwing what one socialist described as "stink bombs" at him, he was keen to present himself as the victim of a potentially ruthless campaign.
Everyone in French political and media circles knew Strauss-Kahn's achilles heel was his attitude to women. Even his closest political allies admitted he was an inveterate seducer, an unashamed libertine. But what makes the scandal new and unprecedented in a presidential race is the crossing of the line to sexual violence, attempted rape and brutal assault.
Strauss-Kahn denies the charges, and his allies call him a seducer without the "profile of a rapist". But if, as the extreme-right Marine Le Pen affirms, all of Paris had long been abuzz with talk of his "rather pathological relationship" with women, why wasn't Strauss-Kahn pulled up on it before in France? He had already been chastised by the IMF over one affair with a junior in 2008.
It raises the uncomfortable question in the French media and politics of two parallel worlds: what is printed, and what is behind it, gossip, and what must officially remain "unsaid".
Consensual extramarital sex is a non-story in France, part of the right to a private life protected by fearsome libel and privacy laws. Having a mistress, philandering, even routinely propositioning journalists have been brushed aside for countless political figures. "How many senior male French politicians aren't either a groper, a cheater, a charmer or a serial seducer? And it goes right to the top of the political class," sighed one news editor. "France is still a kind of monarchy that kept the aristocratic morals of the 18th century. The lord of the manor has a right to the women; the king has his mistresses." If more allegations against Strauss-Kahn come to light and lead to criminal charges, it will call into question a taboo in France about speaking out.
Tristane Banon, the novelist and journalist is, according to her lawyer, preparing to go to police alleging Strauss-Kahn sexually assaulted her in 2002. Her mother, Anne Mansouret, a senior Socialist figure, said that she advised her daughter not to file a lawsuit at the time because Strauss-Kahn was a politician with a bright future, as well as a friend of the family. But she said that even the fact that her daughter later spoke out publicly about the attack on TV had left her "traumatised" by the subsequent "harassment" in her professional life over having dared to speak out.
Her mother suggested there was a kind of "invisible barrier" put up on her work projects, as if media bosses and publishers feared the consequences of "what she could reveal". Strauss-Kahn's spokesman has previously denied the claim, and said Banon had invented the allegation to generate publicity for herself.
The journalists, Christophe Deloire and Christophe Dubois, broke a taboo in their 2006 book, Sexus Politicus, about politicians' sexual behaviour. They wrote of Strauss-Kahn's tendency to "seduction to the point of obsession", mentioning, but not naming, female journalists who had been irritated by his gestures towards them. They also referred to one senior civil servant who didn't take up his offer to "come up to his office to relax".
It seemed striking that when Strauss-Kahn left for the IMF in Washington in 2007, with many politicians privately wondering how he would cope in a puritan US which frowns upon sexual advances, only one journalist raised the issue. Brussels correspondent for Libération, Jean Quatremer, wrote on his blog: "Strauss-Kahn's only real problem is his relationship to women. Too heavy … it borderlines harassment." Strauss-Kahn's communications team asked him to take the blog down. Quatremer explained to Le Parisien that he had refused, saying if they thought it was libellous, they could sue. They did not.
In 2008, the French press began to more openly touch on the issue of Strauss-Kahn and women after the IMF investigated his affair with a junior colleague, the Hungarian economist Piroska Nagy. He was cleared of abusing his position but was forced to apologise. Nagy said she thought he had a "problem" which affected his ability to work with women. Others in France spoke out. The Socialist party MP Aurelie Filipetti recalled a "very heavy, very pressing" come-on to her by Strauss-Kahn. She said that afterwards: "I made sure I never ended up alone with him in a closed space."
The humorist Stephane Guillon went furthest in 2009, satirising Strauss-Kahn's "obsession with females" on the equivalent of Radio 4's Today programme. Strauss-Kahn accused him on air of "nastiness" and Guillon – already under fire for lampooning several political figures – was sacked shortly afterwards.
In 2006, when Strauss-Kahn failed in his bid to become the Socialist presidential candidate, part of his problem was his publicly haughty and condescending attitude to the eventual winner, Ségolène Royal.
But five years later, as Strauss-Kahn's opinion poll ratings soared and he was tipped to become president, it was clear that a saga like the Nagy affair had no effect on the electorate's view. Sexual violence is another matter entirely. In a country where the leader's sexual habits are officially ignored, allegations of attempted rape have been a severe shock.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... est-france
by Stephen Morgan » Tue May 17, 2011 3:14 am
barracuda wrote:Are we holding up Eliot Spitzer as some kind of a model for the valiant, embattled and unfairly treated fighter for truth and justice? I hope not. I hate to tell Mike Whitney, but Ms. Dupre wasn't the only assignation of Spitzer's career. "Investigators believe Spitzer paid up to $80,000 for prostitutes over a period of several years — first while he was attorney general, and later as governor."
If you gonna fight the power, better get your peccadillos on the leash. Spitzer is a scumbag. But no, I don't have a citation for that particular sentiment at hand.
by Peachtree Pam » Tue May 17, 2011 3:19 am
by 8bitagent » Tue May 17, 2011 3:38 am
Stephen Morgan wrote:barracuda wrote:Are we holding up Eliot Spitzer as some kind of a model for the valiant, embattled and unfairly treated fighter for truth and justice? I hope not. I hate to tell Mike Whitney, but Ms. Dupre wasn't the only assignation of Spitzer's career. "Investigators believe Spitzer paid up to $80,000 for prostitutes over a period of several years — first while he was attorney general, and later as governor."
If you gonna fight the power, better get your peccadillos on the leash. Spitzer is a scumbag. But no, I don't have a citation for that particular sentiment at hand.
You're surprisingly prudish. I'm not going to applaud his adultery, or his profligacy, but he was one of the good guys. Also, there was a documentary about him posted in one of the video threads casting serious doubt on whether he ever fucked that particular woman, Dupre, or whether she was an opportunist and he was actually seeing one of the other girls on the books. Anyway, his fighting of the power shouldn't be outweighed by a mere adultery. It's a strategic error, of course.
by 82_28 » Tue May 17, 2011 5:18 am
barracuda wrote:Mike Whitney wrote:As it turns out, the ex-Governor of New York made it easy for his enemies by engaging a high-priced hooker named Ashley Dupre for sex at the Mayflower Hotel. When the news broke, the media descended on Spitzer like a swarm of locusts poring over every salacious detail with the ebullient fervor of a randy 6th-grader. Meanwhile, the crooks on Wall Street were able to breathe a sigh of relief and get back to doing what they do best; fleecing investors and cheating people out of the life savings.
Are we holding up Eliot Spitzer as some kind of a model for the valiant, embattled and unfairly treated fighter for truth and justice? I hope not. I hate to tell Mike Whitney, but Ms. Dupre wasn't the only assignation of Spitzer's career. "Investigators believe Spitzer paid up to $80,000 for prostitutes over a period of several years — first while he was attorney general, and later as governor."
If you gonna fight the power, better get your peccadillos on the leash. Spitzer is a scumbag. But no, I don't have a citation for that particular sentiment at hand.
by 82_28 » Tue May 17, 2011 5:22 am
Nordic wrote::threadhijacked:
by Joe Hillshoist » Tue May 17, 2011 5:40 am
82_28 wrote:barracuda wrote:Mike Whitney wrote:As it turns out, the ex-Governor of New York made it easy for his enemies by engaging a high-priced hooker named Ashley Dupre for sex at the Mayflower Hotel. When the news broke, the media descended on Spitzer like a swarm of locusts poring over every salacious detail with the ebullient fervor of a randy 6th-grader. Meanwhile, the crooks on Wall Street were able to breathe a sigh of relief and get back to doing what they do best; fleecing investors and cheating people out of the life savings.
Are we holding up Eliot Spitzer as some kind of a model for the valiant, embattled and unfairly treated fighter for truth and justice? I hope not. I hate to tell Mike Whitney, but Ms. Dupre wasn't the only assignation of Spitzer's career. "Investigators believe Spitzer paid up to $80,000 for prostitutes over a period of several years — first while he was attorney general, and later as governor."
If you gonna fight the power, better get your peccadillos on the leash. Spitzer is a scumbag. But no, I don't have a citation for that particular sentiment at hand.
Mike Whitney has always to me, been suspect of "something". He writes the right shit. But Whitney came to the fore with very little effort and through all of the "liberals seeking truth" channels of yore (infoclearinghouse and whatnot). Always made me suspect. And, though I may have a typo or two here and there, some of his misspellings or syntax errors have always made me suspect he is not who he is and how he got to be so goddamned published and yet this unknown motherfucker always gave me some consternation as to his purpose and what it fills. I simply have never trusted Whitney, but have read him. I have frequently read something he says, but wonder why he doesn't have an online presence. Wiki tells me he's a cricketer from down under:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Whitney
Who is this motherfucker and why does he pre-load everything with standard issue conspiracy guidance? Like Mike Malloy.
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