Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

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Re: Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:51 am

tanks have quietly moved out of town ....rumors of suicide swirl



conniption » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:55 pm wrote:I'm sorry, but these lock-downs of neighborhoods and door-to-door searches bother me to no end. I swear, it is not the way they did it in the old days. Something about constitutional rights prohibiting this type of behavior. I would much rather deal with the criminals than the swat teams imposed upon us to protect us.



Fox Lake officer's death is investigated as homicide or suicide, sources say
Fox Lake police officer shot
Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, a 30-year veteran of the Fox Lake Police Department, was shot and killed Sept. 1, 2015.
Lisa BlackContact Reporter
Chicago Tribune
Fox Lake officer's death is investigated as homicide or suicide, sources tell the Chicago Tribune
Even as police probe the shooting death of Fox Lake Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz as a homicide, they are also investigating whether it might have been a suicide, sources close to the investigation told the Tribune on Monday.

Publicly, the spokesman for the investigation, Detective Christopher Covelli of the Lake County sheriff's office, repeated Monday that authorities are looking at "every theory" but that they are "still pursuing this as a homicide."

Speaking on condition of anonymity, though, multiple sources close to the investigation said one of the theories being examined is whether the gunshot wound that killed the officer was self-inflicted.



Oak Lawn Man Accused of Threatening Key Officials in Fox Lake Police Shooting Case: UPDATE
The man is accused of threatening to kill the officials unless they declare Lt. Joe Gliniewicz's death a suicide.
By AMIE SCHAENZER (Patch Staff)
September 14, 2015

Oak Lawn Man Accused of Threatening Key Officials in Fox Lake Police Shooting Case: UPDATE

A retired Chicago police officer faces felony disorderly conduct charges for allegations he threatened to kill those involved in an investigation into the shooting death of Fox Lake Police Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz.

An arrest warrant was issued Saturday for Joseph A. Battaglia, 54, of the 5600 block of West 103rd Street in Oak Lawn, on Saturday. He was arrested at his Oak Lawn home and has been charged with two counts of disorderly conduct, class 4 felony. Battaglia is being held at the Lake County Jail on a $100,000 bail, Lake County Sheriff’s Office Detective Christopher Covelli said in a news release.

The charges stem from a call made to the Lake County Coroner’s Office at about 2 p.m. on Friday. The caller said he planned to harm all of the task force members on the team investigating Gliniewicz’s unless Gliniewicz’s death was ruled a suicide, Covelli said.
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Re: Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:47 am

Report: Illinois Police Investigating if Officer Thought to Be Killed Actually Committed Suicide
BY POLLY MOSENDZ 9/15/15 AT 8:21 PM
Joe Gliniewicz

Updated | Illinois authorities are investigating whether a Fox Lake police lieutenant believed to have been murdered actually committed suicide and made it look like someone killed him, according to a report by Fox News.

Lieutenant Charles Joseph Gliniewicz radioed fellow officers to tell them he was on a foot pursuit, identifying two white males and one black male as suspects on the morning of September 1. Contact was then lost with Gliniewicz, and when backup arrived, the officers found him dead from a gunshot wound.

A manhunt was launched to find Gliniewicz’s killers. It included more than 100 investigators, countless law enforcement agencies, helicopters and dogs. Authorities retrieved surveillance footage surrounding the scene in the days following Gliniewicz’s death.

Two sources with knowledge of the investigation told Fox News it’s possible Gliniewicz shot himself. According to these sources, Gliniewicz was found facedown with his hand “in a gun position” and the gun “dropped at his body.”

Two shell casings were found at the scene: One hit his bulletproof vest, but the second struck under the vest near the heart. It was fired in a downward trajectory, Fox reported. “There was no sign of a struggle or defensive wounds—especially one to save his own life.”

The investigation is still being handled as a homicide, and DNA has reportedly been found at the scene. However, no suspects have been named in the case, nor have any sketches of the wanted men been released.

"Based on all the facts, leads and evidence we have (this includes items we’ve discussed with the media and items we haven’t been able to discuss, to keep the integrity of the investigation), this is being pursued as a homicide investigation. This is a very active, complex investigation. Nothing has been ruled out, as it wouldn’t be prudent if we eliminated any factors prior to conducting a thorough investigation. At this point, we are still actively seeking three suspects, which were originally described as two white males and one black male. We are still waiting on several analysis reports to return from the labs (this includes ballistic, DNA and gunshot residue exams)," Christopher Covelli, the public information officer of the Lake County Sheriff’s Office, tells Newsweek in an emailed comment.


Police, coroner keep clashing in Fox Lake cop case

WRITTEN BY BY RUTH FULLER SPECIAL TO SUN-TIMES POSTED: 09/15/2015, 04:49PM

Lake County Major Crimes Task Force Cmdr. George Filenko at a news conference earlier this month | Getty Images
Investigators looking into the death of a Fox Lake Police officer met with the pathologist who performed his autopsy without the knowledge of the Lake County coroner, underscoring the strained relationship between the police and the coroner in the case, the Sun-Times has learned.

The meeting concerning slain officer Charles Joseph Gliniewicz was held last week, at 10 a.m. Wednesday, at the Round Lake Police Department, where Lake County Major Crimes Task Force Commander George Filenko is police chief.


Pathologist Manny Montez confirmed that he attended the meeting, along with Filenko, other members of the task force and members of the FBI. Representatives of the Lake County state’s attorney’s office also attended.

“They called me and told me to be present, so I showed up,” Montez said. “We went over my findings. They had copies of my sketches because I haven’t finalized my (autopsy) report yet.”

Rudd said he was “totally confused” when he learned about the meeting.

“I was not invited to the meeting and I have just found out that the meeting occurred,” Rudd said. Montez is a contracted employee of the coroner and reports his findings to Rudd, who makes the final determination on the cause of death.

Rudd, however, said that the task force’s actions thus far would not affect their relationship.

“I’ll continue to work and cooperate as a professional,” he said.

Lake County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Detective Christopher Covelli said “no restrictions” were placed on the coroner attending the meeting, which was attended by “his staff.”

“I don’t know why he wasn’t there,” Covelli said, adding he didn’t know if the Lake County coroner had been invited.

To make the point that there is communication between the task force and the coroner’s office, Covelli said that there is a meeting which has been set up between members of the task force and Rudd in the next few days.

But Rudd said he was not aware of any such meeting.

“I have not been invited to any past, current or future meetings. I have received no e-mails, phone messages, texts or any other communication from any members of the task force or state’s attorney’s office,” Rudd said.

Filenko did not return several messages for comment.

Tensions between the cops and the coroner came to a boil the day after the meeting which the coroner did not attend.

That Thursday, Filenko and Lake County Undersheriff Ray Rose blasted Rudd in a news release and at a news conference for releasing information that they said could jeopardize the case. Such a news release during such a high-profile case is rare.

“We have not been contacted by or had communication with Doctor Rudd,” Filenko said in the news release. “Doctor Rudd, releasing information which is sensitive to this investigation, puts the entire case at risk.”

Rudd had said that a “single devastating” gunshot wound killed Gliniewicz and he couldn’t rule whether the death was a homicide, suicide or accident.

“I don’t know the manner of death yet, whether it was a homicide, suicide or an accident,” Rudd said last week. “I can’t give you that because I don’t have the evidence that the police have finalized.”

Rudd has said that his report can’t be completed until he gets the report from the task force and learns whether the bullet that killed the officer came from Gliniewicz’s own gun or someone else’s.

Filenko has said publicly that Rudd has not shared the autopsy findings with him.

The investigation has drawn national attention after Gliniewicz, a 30-year police veteran, was found dead Sept. 1 in Fox Lake, about 55 miles northwest of Chicago. The officer was found dead after calling in a report that he was investigating three suspicious men in an isolated area.

The shooting led to a massive manhunt, but no arrests have been made. Authorities have disclosed few details about Gliniewicz’s death.

Investigators have said publicly that Gliniewicz’s gun was found feet away from his body and that it was fired more than once. They have declined to say how many times it was fired, or if Gliniewicz was shot with his own gun.

Covelli said Tuesday that while police investigators have released certain details of the case, Rudd has released details that could be more damaging and that he did not communicate what he was going to tell the media before giving the statements.

Covelli said that the officer’s death is still officially being investigated as a homicide, but that the office is not “putting blinders on” and is investigating every angle as it comes up – including suicide.

“It would be irresponsible of us not to investigate other theories,” he said. “We still have as many people investigating this today as we did two weeks ago. If the evidence and the facts redirect us we are going to go down that path.”

Covelli said that task force investigators are still awaiting the test results of several items sent to the laboratory for analysis, including the DNA of an unknown individual, which was located at the scene, ballistic test results and other results.

“We are hopeful they will be in soon — like in the very near future,” Covelli said.

When asked why the results appear to be taking longer than customary on a high-profile case, Covelli said that the items were sent to several different labs, which have put a rush on the results but still want to provide accurate information.

“They are going to do what they can to move it to the top of the list,” he said.
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Re: Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:04 am

seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:51 am wrote:tanks have quietly moved out of town ....rumors of suicide swirl




Fox Lake officer's death to be ruled suicide: law enforcement sources

Photo gallery: Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, a 30-year veteran of the Fox Lake Police Department, was shot and killed Sept. 1, 2015.
Lisa Black, Jim Newton and Lauren ZumbachContact Reporters
Tribune Newspapers
Sources say: Fox Lake cop may have killed himself
Authorities have called a news conference for Wednesday to announce "significant new information" regarding the shooting death of a Fox Lake police officer, and multiple law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation have told the Tribune that authorities are expected to announce that he took his own life.

The sources say that authorities believe Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, 52, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound Sept. 1.

The new information comes two months after officers found Gliniewicz mortally wounded in a remote, marshy area of the village near the Wisconsin border.

Around 8 a.m. Sept. 1, Gliniewicz radioed that he was pursuing two white males and a black male. Dispatchers lost contact with Gliniewicz, a 30-year veteran and a fixture in Fox Lake, and responding officers found him shot and his .40-caliber handgun rested nearby.

A few days later, Lake County Coroner Thomas Rudd said he couldn't at that point rule out suicide or any other manner of death. A month after Gliniewicz died, police said he'd been shot twice with his own weapon — once in his protective vest and once in the upper left area of his torso. But authorities said they could not yet rule on a manner of death, and police said there were signs of a struggle at the scene.

Police said GPS data showed Gliniewicz was on foot near the crime scene for about 20 minutes before calling in that he had seen suspicious activity. The officer had agreed to look into reports of vandalism in the area at a recent meeting with village officials, police said.

Fox Lake officer was shot twice with his own weapon: investigator

Gliniewicz long led the department's Explorers program, which gives aspiring officers up-close experience with policing. Many people in town referred to him as G.I. Joe.

Late Tuesday night, some Fox Lake area residents reacted to the news.

Crystal Moore, of Fox Lake, said many unanswered questions remain.

"It's a really messed-up case, and really sad for the community," she said. "I respect him, and I think he's a hero."

Standing outside a Fox Lake bar that still had Gliniewicz's picture in the window, an Ingleside man said "something still just doesn't feel right."

"There are a lot of unanswered questions," said Brad, who asked to be identified by just his first name because the situation remains sensitive.

A Lindenhurst man who said he knew Gliniewicz growing up recalled the late officer for his smile.

"He was just a really nice guy," said Bill, who also asked to be identified by just his first name. "I would hate for it to come out that (suicide) was true."

Investigation into Fox Lake officer's death has cost $300,000, analysis finds

The village has been in the midst of a review of procedures and equipment triggered by the retirement of police Chief Michael Behan days before Gliniewicz died. Just before he retired, Behan and another officer had been put on leave pending an investigation into the department's handling of an altercation between an officer and an arrestee in 2014. The village has revealed very little about those inquiries.
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Re: Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:05 am

“Every cop in America is looking over their shoulder right now,” said Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn on “Fox and Friends.”

Many Americans were also angry over the apparent cop-killing, particularly in Fox Lake.

“I hope they find them and blow their heads off,” Jeff Peterson, a local construction worker, told The Washington Post. “It’s time for [officers] to fight back.”

According to recently released FBI data, however, assaults on police officers dropped sharply in 2014 and are at their lowest point since 1996.




Reports: Illinois cop whose shooting sparked nationwide outrage actually killed himself

By Michael E. Miller November 4 at 12:05 AM

Hundreds gathered to pay their last respects to Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, the officer who died on Sept. 1 in the Fox Lake community, north of Chicago. Two months later, new details are coming to light about how he died. (Reuters)
Police officer Charles Joseph Gliniewicz received a hero’s funeral.

Whether he will be remembered as one, however, is suddenly shrouded in doubt.

Gliniewicz was found dead on the morning of Sept. 1 in a remote area of Fox Lake, Ill. Moments earlier, the veteran cop had radioed that he was pursuing two white males and a black male on foot. When his fellow officers arrived, they found Gliniewicz bleeding to death with his .40-caliber pistol nearby.

[That Illinois cop-killing sparked outrage and tears. But was it a suicide?]

State, federal and local authorities scoured the area for signs of the three suspected cop-killers. Fox Lake, a northern suburb of Chicago, closed its schools as SWAT teams went house to house. Hundreds of residents lined the streets for Gliniewicz’s funeral, which was a sea of blue police uniforms.

“When we were growing up, we all knew Joe was a hero,” said his brother, firefighter Michael Gliniewicz, choking back tears at the ceremony. “But now the nation knows he was a hero.”

On Wednesday morning, however, officials are expected to shatter that image of Gliniewicz as a heroic officer cut down in the line of duty. Instead, they will announce that the veteran cop killed himself in an elaborately staged suicide, the Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times reported, quoting police sources.

The Lake County Sheriff’s Office has called a Wednesday news conference to announce “conclusive results” of the investigation, according to the Associated Press.

At the press conference, authorities will announce that Gliniewicz actually took his own life, multiple law enforcement sources told the newspapers.

The revelation could alter public perception of not only Gliniewicz but also the argument that cops are increasingly under attack in America.

The death of the Fox Lake cop, a 52-year-old father of four sons who for many years ran his department’s cadet training program, became a touchstone for law enforcement officials across the country who believe they are under increased threat amidst growing scrutiny of police in the wake of a string of high-profile police-involved killings.

[There is no ‘war on cops.’ And those who claim otherwise are playing a dangerous game]

Police badges have become “a target,” Wicomico County, Md., Sheriff Mike Lewis told Fox News during a discussion of Gliniewicz’s death. “I’ve never seen it like this,” he added. “It’s a scary, scary time for law enforcement in this country.”


“Every cop in America is looking over their shoulder right now,” said Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn on “Fox and Friends.”

Many Americans were also angry over the apparent cop-killing, particularly in Fox Lake.

“I hope they find them and blow their heads off,” Jeff Peterson, a local construction worker, told The Washington Post. “It’s time for [officers] to fight back.”

According to recently released FBI data, however, assaults on police officers dropped sharply in 2014 and are at their lowest point since 1996.

[FBI data show assaults on police officers dropped sharply in 2014]

In a case similar to Gliniewicz’s disputed death, an Arkansas police officer was arrested Tuesday for allegedly lying about being shot during a traffic stop.

Sgt. David Houser, 50, of the England Police Department was charged with filing a false police report, according to KTHV-TV. Houser had claimed that he was shot in his bulletproof vest during an Oct. 24 traffic stop.

“Houser told local and state law enforcement officers that while on patrol that he had exchanged gunfire with a suspect who fled from him driving a sport utility vehicle south of England along state Highway 15,” Arkansas State Police said in a press release obtained by the local TV station. “Houser also reported he had been shot by the suspect.”

[FBI chief again says Ferguson having chilling effect on law enforcement]


Mourners attend a candlelight vigil for slain Fox Lake Police Lieutenant Charles Joseph Gliniewicz in Fox Lake, Illinois, United States, September 2, 2015. (Jim Young/Reuters)
As in Fox Lake, Houser’s claim sparked a massive manhunt as officials searched the state for a Hispanic man in a silver SUV.

“We went after it as if we were going after someone who had just tried to kill a police officer,” England Police Chief Nathan Cook told KTHV-TV. “The more we investigated, the more it became clear that the details of his story were inconsistent.”

Cook, who said he fired Houser on Monday, was at a loss why his officer had invented the incident.

“He was a good officer,” the police chief said. “I’m not a doctor, so I can’t speculate why this happened. I know he’s had some personal losses lately. We just hope he gets the help he needs.”

“Why would you ever make that up?” added Lonoke Sheriff John Staley. “What would he gain from that? It’s just amazing to me.”
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Re: Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:06 pm

listening to press conference ... a ton of Illegal acts by cop that went on for years that were being investigated....more to come

stealing and laundering money
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Re: Are We Allowed to Talk About Martial Law?

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