Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[conniption]

Innocent Watertown family ripped from their home at gunpoint; Police storm the property ...

6:00

[seemslikeadream]

too bad the vid was cut off before they pulled Anne Frank out of the attic

[seemslikeadream]

Are the Tsarnaev brothers white?
Whatever their racial status, they seem to resemble young American mass murderers more than al-Qaida members
BY JOAN WALSH

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, approximately 10-20 minutes before the Boston Marathon explosions.(Credit: AP/Bob Leonard)
In the wake of David Sirota’s hot-button essay last week, “Let’s Hope the Boston Marathon Bomber Is a White American,” conservatives swarmed to trash Sirota and Salon. I’m not here to defend or criticize Sirota’s piece – I get in enough trouble on these issues myself — but the storm it provoked was revealing, especially once we learned the identity of the two suspects: Tamarlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, ethnic Chechens who grew up in Russia and came legally to the U.S., who were also Muslim.

Hate mail and punditry targeting Salon and Sirota declared that Sirota was not only morally wrong in hoping the terrorists would turn out to be white — but that he was proven spectacularly incorrect, because the Tsarnaev brothers are not white. “Sorry David Sirota, looks like Boston Bombing suspects are not ‘white Americans,’” wrote the folks at Newsbusters. “Is David Sirota crying uncontrollably because the Boston bombers weren’t whites??” one conservative emailed Salon. There was a lot of other email in the same tedious vein.

But are we sure the Tsarnaevs aren’t white? They are quite literally Caucasian, as in from the Caucuses: Rebecca Eisenberg helps with this handy map. And ethnically in this country, we count Americans of Russian descent, as well as Chechens, as white. Dzhokhar was a naturalized American citizen; Tamarlan had applied for citizenship but reportedly didn’t get it because of FBI concerns about his possible ties to Islamic radicals.

So why are the Tsarnaev brothers not white, at least to right-wingers? Is it only because they’re Muslim? Muslim immigrants? Or is it because they’re “bad,” and whiteness must be surrendered when white people are bad?

Over its long history America has regularly featured a process of sorting white from non-white, even among European immigrant groups. I’m not a huge admirer of the now-dated whiteness studies academic movement, but those scholars did help illuminate the way various groups of European immigrants, particularly the Irish, but also Jews, Italians and Eastern Europeans, “became” white over time, in a complicated process of determined assimilation, gradually lessening prejudice by existing “white” society, and most important, the arrival of newcomers to take the place of the scapegoated non-white other, alongside the definitive non-white scapegoats, African-Americans. Embracing racism and xenophobia, sadly, could be a shortcut to white status for previously non-white European immigrants.

These days, though, Americans of Russian or Chechen descent are unambiguously categorized as “white” by the U.S. Census Bureau, which says it counts as white all “people having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who reported ‘White’ or wrote in entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Near Easterner, Arab, or Polish.” As I wrote Friday, the anguished outburst of Ruslan Tsarni, the brothers’ uncle in Maryland, was the quintessentially American cry of a newcomer wanting to be identified as a good, patriotic American – not necessarily as white, but certainly not as suspicious “other.”

So conservatives’ insistence the Tsarnaevs are absolutely not white is curious, to say the least.

Coincidentally or not, this weekend I got an email from Bo Sears, the head of Resisting Defamation, a conservative organization lobbying for the rights of white Americans as a “diverse demographic affinity group,” with the subject line “No to Caucasian.” Sears wrote:

Now that the diverse white American peoples are becoming a minority in many states, counties, and cities, we wanted to let you know that we have the right to name and label ourselves. And we don’t like being called a word that sounds like “cock-Asian.”

It would be easier to take Sears’ request seriously if he wasn’t appearing to take offense at the “Asian” part of Caucasian (with the kind of juvenile reference to “cock,” which had frankly never occurred to me), and also if he wasn’t regularly complaining about an “anti-white narrative” in the mainstream media and calling me personally an anti-white racist. But I wrote him back to ask what he thought whites should be called, whether he sent his broadside against the term “Caucasian” because of the Tsarnaevs, and whether considered the Tsarnaevs “white.” He answered:

We are far too small an organization to attempt to speak affirmatively about a precise name & label for the diverse white American demographic affinity group..no, we’ve been working on the anti-Cock-Asian message in that email for a couple of weeks. Purely coincidence…based on an upsurge here and there to smother our diversity and nationality with “Cock-Asian.” …To answer your question: the only people who could say that the brothers Tsarnaev were among the diverse white American people would be the Tsarnaevs. You don’t quite understand that Resisting Defamation is not in the border-drawing, definition-making business…we merely resist the campaign of hate speech that we see coming at us.

Interesting enough. But Sears also included a long exegesis of what it meant that that Tamarlan Tsarnaev had the name of the bloody 15th century central Asian-Muslim warlord Tamerlane, which he said was akin “to naming an American child ‘Stalin-Mao-Hitler.” Which seemed to indicate he considered the Tsarnaevs more Asian, or maybe “Cock-Asian,” than good old fashioned American white.

We still know comparatively little about the Tsarnaev brothers, but they seem to have more in common with other American mass murderers than with al-Qaida terrorists of any race and ethnicity. No less an expert than former CIA Deputy Director Phillip Mudd said on Fox News Sunday that they have more in common with the Columbine killers than with hardened al-Qaida terrorists. Likewise, Columbine expert Dave Cullen compares the “dyad” of apparent mastermind Tamarlan and follower-younger brother Dzhokhar to the Columbine pair of disturbed plot architect Eric Harris and follower Dylan Klebold.

It also must be noted, while we’re on the subject of profiling, that this is a problem of American males roughly between the ages of 18 and 26: Harris and Klebold were 18; Virginia Tech mass-murderer Seung-Hui Cho was 23; more recently, the Aurora, Colo., theater shooter, James Holmes, is 25; Clackamas, Ore., mall shooter Jason Tyler Roberts is 22; Newtown’s Adam Lanza was 20. We may well learn that radical Islam drew the alienated 26-year-old Tamarlan Tsarnaev toward violence – right now we have no evidence that 19-year-old Dzhokhar had any connection to Islamic militants — but we should also acknowledge his alienation is a common trait among American men his age.

Our confusion about whether the Tsarnaevs are “white,” and the right wing’s determination to say they aren’t, just underscores the eternally silly project of racial categorization anyway. Race is a social construct, mainly used to establish invidious hierarchies and scapegoats. Despite the persistence of racism and white advantage, these lines are beginning to blur in our increasingly mixed, multiracial society – but right-wingers are going to police these lines as long as they can.

The main point of Sirota’s piece – which I wouldn’t have written in quite the same way – was that since white Americans tend to escape scapegoating and profiling when members of their tribe do something bad, a white Boston bomber wouldn’t trigger a destructive new wave of racial profiling, anti-Muslim agitation or generalized xenophobia. Somehow it’s hard for the right, and even for many in the media, to see white abortion-clinic bombers, or even Timothy McVeigh, as every bit as guilty of terrorism as the Tsarnaevs, if not more so.

The determination to define the Tsarnaevs as non-white, no matter what the Census Bureau says, as well as label them “enemy combatants” based on no evidence, proves that in many ways, Sirota was absolutely right.

[NeonLX]

The MSM are still on about it, all day every day.

[FourthBase]

What we are seeing in Boston is a preview of that police state — a kind of “coming attractions” look at it. The mindless post-capture applause for the army of police who implemented the “lock-down” of the city after the marathon bombing was part and parcel of that police state.

Someday, those cheering images will make a great clip in some Leni Riefenstahl-style propaganda film glorifying whoever is the current maximum leader of the American dictatorship.

This, I will not tolerate.

SLAD, is this your personal opinion?
Or do you stick to posting links in order to hide behind them?

I know these people. I am myself one who applauded, in my home, at the television.
I am the furthest fucking thing from mindless. I am the furthest fucking thing from a Nazi German.

I know you might prefer if I weren't here. Then you could doom-i-cize and scorn Boston with glee.
But I am here. I am HERE. I am these people you scorn. That makes shit like that personal.

[FourthBase]

The MSM are still on about it, all day every day.

Yeah, go figure. Get back to Lindsey Lohan updates, media!
Try covering the wounds suffered by brown, foreign children.
Because at least those children didn't deserv...woops.

Right? No?

What should be covered, then? Why not us?

[Hunter]

FB completely uncalled for and below the belt to bring Ewing in to this, I didnt talk any shit about Garnett.

Just dont bring up Reggie Miller or ill really get pissed.

[FourthBase]

Innocent Watertown family ripped from their home at gunpoint; Police storm the property ...

6:00

1. I didn't catch the part where they busted down a door. Oh, wait...they knocked.
2. I missed the part where anyone was "ripped", in fact, looked like...they walked out. One guy lowered his hands and a cop grabbed it and re-lifted it with mild force. Another cop yelled "Hands up!" to another who was lowering his hands, probably absent-mindedly. Cops usually like hands to stay up, so that innocent people are not misperceived as threats and mistakenly shot. Luckily, that didn't happen. Well, not so lucky for you, that would've made a great video, for the purpose of establishing the tyrannical crackdown you want there to have been.
3. I failed to see a "family", instead a saw a house of twenty-somethings, likely college students.
4. Where are the guns aimed at these twenty-somethings as they walk out, unmolested, on their own? Where is the "gunpoint"?

Nice try, though.

Nah, lol, who I am kidding. That try sucked.

[seemslikeadream]

What we are seeing in Boston is a preview of that police state — a kind of “coming attractions” look at it. The mindless post-capture applause for the army of police who implemented the “lock-down” of the city after the marathon bombing was part and parcel of that police state.

Someday, those cheering images will make a great clip in some Leni Riefenstahl-style propaganda film glorifying whoever is the current maximum leader of the American dictatorship.

This, I will not tolerate.

SLAD, is this your personal opinion?
Or do you stick to posting links in order to hide behind them?

I know these people. I am myself one who applauded, in my home, at the television.
I am the furthest fucking thing from mindless. I am the furthest fucking thing from a Nazi German.

I know you might prefer if I weren't here. Then you could doom-i-cize and scorn Boston with glee.
But I am here. I am HERE. I am these people you scorn. That makes shit like that personal.

get a grip fourth welcome to our America


looks like Nazis to me...as a matter of fact Hitler learned quite a bit from the U. S. government

btw you know you are living on stolen land don't you?

Lakota Not Waiting on US Genocide Response

Indigenous Peoples
The Genocide Under the Rug: travelogue
By Mankh (Walter E. Harris III). Axis of Logic
Axis of Logic
Tuesday, Apr 16, 2013

Part of the mission statement of the Lakota Grandmothers Truth Tour reads:
“Wagunpi Woashake Ikickupi (Lakota Elders Take Back Their Strength) is a grassroots movement to end the genocide of the Lakota people and support the full renewal of matriarchal leadership by Lakota Grandmothers on Pine Ridge and across the Lakota Nation. The movement also works to educate non-Natives about the situation of the Lakota, mobilize long-term solidarity networks to benefit Lakota Elders, and build solidarity with other indigenous resistance movements worldwide.”

*

Clear skies. Sunrise on warm spring morning, April 10th. Traveling from Long Island (Sea-Wan-Hak-Hee) to Manhattan (Manahatta) to support the Lakota grandmothers. That the original place-names are in parentheses is an attempt to educate the reader, honor the timeless-past-present, and an indication of the schizophrenia of our modern society.

Place is Land. Place is People. Land is People and People is Land. Land . . . Place . . . People . . . with the Indigenous perspective, it is all connected. But the Settlers put their rubber-stamp of division on virtually everything, thus the parentheticals serve as reminders of our roots.

I come from Settler heritage but have an affinity for Native ways and an empathy for the challenges Indigenous Peoples face today, plus a deep respect for the various cultures and wisdoms. As wild as it may seem, I have memory of being an Eskimo, thousands of years ago.

Natives remind us that we are all remembering our Indigenous selves, so as to catch up with the present. Whether fantasy or reality, my memory and this awareness helps me tune-in to the plight and potential solutions with the planet.

Whether you have such memories or not it doesn't matter; what matters is right now, right here, and the future of the species and Mother Earth.

As the bus gets closer to the city, I suddenly notice a variegated cloud cover.

Manhattan and it is sunny again.

At a bus stop to go downtown to Washington Square Park (actually a Circle) for the gathering, I talk briefly with an elder woman. She has an accent. Though living a long time in the city, she is from Peru. This chance meeting, plus a brief encounter with another elder woman at the Long Island bus stop (a “conserve open spaces” bumper sticker on her car), all reminds me that an event often starts before the official event starts.

Respect for Elders is not an event, not a gathering that starts at certain time — it is a way of life that America has all but forgotten; where many wind up in nursing and rest homes, their advice rarely ever sought on tv screens or other mainstream smoke screens. But the Natives have a way of helping us remember.

That the grandmothers are speaking out against the ongoing genocide of their people and culture, motivated me to attend. The best way to find out what's going on and to help, if you can, is to go to their website:

“Lakota Elders Truth Tour (April 1 – April 16+) A delegation of traditional grassroots Lakota elders and activists will travel from Pine Ridge Indian Reservation to the United Nations (U.N.) offices in New York, and U.S. Government offices in Washington D.C., to present irrefutable evidence of the ongoing genocide of the Lakota Oyate (Lakota people). Lakota elders and activists will visit 13 cities and speak out to end the genocide of their people and reclaim their traditional matriarchal leadership. They will also show their incendiary documentary “Red Cry.” Join us to end these atrocities.”

At the official gathering, there is jazz being played in the Park; the music is not directly connected with the gathering, but it blends nicely. A Native daughter sings a song honoring mothers. Then one of the grandmothers asks that all recorders and cameras be turned off while she says prayers for the food and the day. Native traditions have what’s called a spirit bowl or plate, so that the spirits get fed before the humans eat; spirits get hungry too, the grandmother says with a smile, plus it is a way of connecting the visible and invisible worlds, honoring those who have passed on, and giving thanks for the meal.

A report after the event, on the Lakota grandmothers’ site, states:

“Under blue skies, the Lakota Delegation shared an enjoyable reception along with our new Haudenosaunee friends and Occupy Wall Street. The puppet street theatre was again in attendance bringing the message in an engaging and artful way! Beautiful! A special thanks to the American Indian House of New York for their support of the Lakota Truth Tour and our crazy schedule!”

The theatre group gave a brief history of the effects of the U.S. colonizers on the Lakota. Perhaps most known is the 1890 massacre of 312 Lakota men, women, and children at Wounded Knee. The brief performance ended with the chant: “Help the elders take back their strength!”

As nice a day as it was weather-wise and as moving as it was to meet the Lakota grandmothers and others in Washington Square Park (a place rich with political and cultural protest history), another parenthetical statement must be added. As Tiokasin Ghosthorse of the Cheyenne River Lakota Nation, and host of First Voices Indigenous Radio, has written: “In many Native languages there is no concept nor word for “park”. The relationship with the land has never been broken but for only a foreign language who may wish it so.”

Whatever the terminology or lack there of, the Lakota want their territory (in the South Dakota and other sections of Turtle Island) back; the broken Treaty of Fort Laramie (1868) is a large piece of that puzzle.

*

Back home the next day, the news shows me, again, that it is all connected:
“‘Time to Rise Up’: Oklahoma Grandmother Bike-Locks Herself to KXL Pipeline Machinery"

Some other grandmothers who have made the news over the years are Doris “Granny D” Haddock, and Peace Pilgrim.

And, of course, you can probably learn something from your own mother or grandmother, as well as tuning your ear and heart (which has the word “ear” in it) to the Mother Earth (which also has the word). Are not mothers and grandmothers some of the best listeners you’ve ever known? Does not Mother Earth hear you when you’re out hiking or taking a walk by yourself? Now is the time for two-way conversation, which is something the United Nations and other potentates have yet to learn how to do.

In the article, “United Nations Fails to Accommodate Lakota Genocide Complaint,” Lakota Grandmother Charmaine White Face explains: “It’s not surprising because we have been going there for thirty years, and they have yet to stop the genocide, contrary to their own mission statement to protect nations large and small.”



Notes

Also see, “Lakota Elders waiting to be received by UN Secretary General”

READ MORE OF MANKH'S POEMS AND ESSAYS ON AXIS OF LOGIC

Mankh (Walter E. Harris III) is an essayist and resident poet on Axis of Logic. In addition to his work as a writer, he is a small press publisher and Turtle Islander. He edited and published the book, The (Un)Occupy Movement: Autonomy of Consciousness, Practical Solutions, Human Equality, and hosts an audio show "Between the Lines: listening to literature online." You can contact him via his literary website.

[FourthBase]

get a grip fourth welcome to our America


looks like Nazis to me...as a matter of fact Hitler learned quite a bit from the U. S. government

btw you know you are living on stolen land don't you?

You...



I want this question resolved by admins.
Tired of feeling justified rage, getting warned.
Meanwhile, calling my family, friends, and myself Nazis...that's cool? No.

Yeah, well aware about the land thing.
I've been to Wampanoag celebrations. Have you?
Did you know they lived in relative harmony with Pilgrims for decades?
And then the Puritans basically ruined everything?

[Canadian_watcher]

What we are seeing in Boston is a preview of that police state — a kind of “coming attractions” look at it. The mindless post-capture applause for the army of police who implemented the “lock-down” of the city after the marathon bombing was part and parcel of that police state.

Someday, those cheering images will make a great clip in some Leni Riefenstahl-style propaganda film glorifying whoever is the current maximum leader of the American dictatorship.

This, I will not tolerate.

SLAD, is this your personal opinion?
Or do you stick to posting links in order to hide behind them?

I know these people. I am myself one who applauded, in my home, at the television.
I am the furthest fucking thing from mindless. I am the furthest fucking thing from a Nazi German.

I know you might prefer if I weren't here. Then you could doom-i-cize and scorn Boston with glee.
But I am here. I am HERE. I am these people you scorn. That makes shit like that personal.

Okay I've been watching this bullshit for long enough without jumping in because it isn't my fight - but come ON. This is why I don't come to RI very often anymore. In EVERY THREAD there's some blowhard asshat running around demanding people censor themselves.
In this thread it's all over the place and IMO this kind of belligerent rhetoric is nauseating.

You don't OWN the opinion or facts on Boston, 4B. You don't have special rights to dictate the appropriate responses/questions/links/observations - do you think you do? I have no idea why you're being permitted to rage and insult and harrass in this thread but let me tell you buddy, that's what you're fucking doing. You sound like you've gone completely off your rocker. Listen to yourself - !!!!

ffffffffffffffffffffffff

[shaftoe]

Not much of a poster, but I don't think this has been introduced yet...

http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/22/was-boston-bombers-uncle-ruslan-with-the-cia/

Enter "Uncle Ruslan"
The biggest red flag, the one pertinent to murder in Boston, was Oligarch Kukibayev's use of money laundered through a network of offshore companies to attempt to hide his purchase of Prince Andrew's crib, which emerged during a legal battle between another billionaire Kazakh oligarch, Mukhtar Ablyazov, and BTA Bank, from which Kazakhstan claims Ablyazov embezzled a very cool $6 billion dollars.
And this is where “Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni comes in.
The purchase of the Prince's estate was put together, according to prosecutors in Italy and Switzerland, by a group of oil executives who comprise “a network of personal and business relationships” allegedly used for “international corruption," reported The London Telegraph.
Tsarni, called “a US lawyer who has had dealings in Kazakh business affairs,” by the Sunday Times, clearly appears to be a member of that network.
The Sunday Times reported, “A statement by Ruslan Zaindi Tsarni was given in the High Court in December, claiming that Kulibayev bought Sunninghill and properties in Mayfair with $96 million derived from a complex series of deals intended to disguise money laundering.”
“Tsarni alleged that the money came from the takeover of a western company, which had been used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh state.”
A Big Big Sky's the Limit
“western company” used to launder the money which the Sunday Times referred to is Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan Tsarni was a top executive.
Big Sky, which used to be known as China Energy Ventures Corp, is a now-bankrupt US oil company run by S.A. (Al) Sehsuvaroglu, a long-time executive of Halliburton, which had oil leases in Kakakhstan’s Caspian Basin.
Tsarni was Big Sky’s Corporate Secretary and Vice President for Business Development. He joined Big Sky in 2005.
A press release announcing his appointment stated:
“Mr. Ruslan Tsarni, a U.S. citizen, has over 10 years of professional experience in oil and gas legislation and corporate law. Previously, Mr. Tsarni served as Corporate Counsel of Nelson Resources Limited Group as well as Managing Director of several of its operating subsidiaries.
“From 1999 to 2001, Mr. Tsarni worked as Head of Legal Affairs of Golden Eagle Partners LLC.




Long time lurker who holds to the adage, if you don't have anything new to add to a discussion...

Thanks to all who make this board what it is, I appreciate what the regular members put forward on a daily basis.

[FourthBase]

What we are seeing in Boston is a preview of that police state — a kind of “coming attractions” look at it. The mindless post-capture applause for the army of police who implemented the “lock-down” of the city after the marathon bombing was part and parcel of that police state.

Someday, those cheering images will make a great clip in some Leni Riefenstahl-style propaganda film glorifying whoever is the current maximum leader of the American dictatorship.

This, I will not tolerate.

SLAD, is this your personal opinion?
Or do you stick to posting links in order to hide behind them?

I know these people. I am myself one who applauded, in my home, at the television.
I am the furthest fucking thing from mindless. I am the furthest fucking thing from a Nazi German.

I know you might prefer if I weren't here. Then you could doom-i-cize and scorn Boston with glee.
But I am here. I am HERE. I am these people you scorn. That makes shit like that personal.

Okay I've been watching this bullshit for long enough without jumping in because it isn't my fight - but come ON. This is why I don't come to RI very often anymore. In EVERY THREAD there's some blowhard asshat running around demanding people censor themselves.
In this thread it's all over the place and IMO this kind of belligerent rhetoric is nauseating.

You don't OWN the opinion or facts on Boston, 4B. You don't have special rights to dictate the appropriate responses/questions/links/observations - do you think you do? I have no idea why you're being permitted to rage and insult and harrass in this thread but let me tell you buddy, that's what you're fucking doing. You sound like you've gone completely off your rocker. Listen to yourself - !!!!

ffffffffffffffffffffffff

What is your hometown? Who are your friends, your family? Who are you?
What if I said that you and everyone you know is a mindless Nazi? Cool? You happy?

Censor yourselves? No, how about: Be thoughtful.
Is that a request for self-censorship, if you can't be thoughtful?
Then, yeah, censor yourselves. Thanks.

[seemslikeadream]

get a grip fourth welcome to our America


looks like Nazis to me...as a matter of fact Hitler learned quite a bit from the U. S. government

btw you know you are living on stolen land don't you?

You...



I want this question resolved by admins.
Tired of feeling justified rage, getting warned.
Meanwhile, calling my family, friends, and myself Nazis...that's cool? No.

Yeah, well aware about the land thing.
I've been to Wampanoag celebrations. Have you?
Did you know they lived in relative harmony with Pilgrims for decades?
And then the Puritans basically ruined everything?

to clarify I WAS NOT CALLING THE CITIZENS NAZIS FOOL....IT WAS THE GUYS WITH THE GUNS!!

[FourthBase]

Not much of a poster, but I don't think this has been introduced yet...

http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/22/was-boston-bombers-uncle-ruslan-with-the-cia/

Enter "Uncle Ruslan"
The biggest red flag, the one pertinent to murder in Boston, was Oligarch Kukibayev's use of money laundered through a network of offshore companies to attempt to hide his purchase of Prince Andrew's crib, which emerged during a legal battle between another billionaire Kazakh oligarch, Mukhtar Ablyazov, and BTA Bank, from which Kazakhstan claims Ablyazov embezzled a very cool $6 billion dollars.
And this is where “Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni comes in.
The purchase of the Prince's estate was put together, according to prosecutors in Italy and Switzerland, by a group of oil executives who comprise “a network of personal and business relationships” allegedly used for “international corruption," reported The London Telegraph.
Tsarni, called “a US lawyer who has had dealings in Kazakh business affairs,” by the Sunday Times, clearly appears to be a member of that network.
The Sunday Times reported, “A statement by Ruslan Zaindi Tsarni was given in the High Court in December, claiming that Kulibayev bought Sunninghill and properties in Mayfair with $96 million derived from a complex series of deals intended to disguise money laundering.”
“Tsarni alleged that the money came from the takeover of a western company, which had been used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh state.”
A Big Big Sky's the Limit
“western company” used to launder the money which the Sunday Times referred to is Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan Tsarni was a top executive.
Big Sky, which used to be known as China Energy Ventures Corp, is a now-bankrupt US oil company run by S.A. (Al) Sehsuvaroglu, a long-time executive of Halliburton, which had oil leases in Kakakhstan’s Caspian Basin.
Tsarni was Big Sky’s Corporate Secretary and Vice President for Business Development. He joined Big Sky in 2005.
A press release announcing his appointment stated:
“Mr. Ruslan Tsarni, a U.S. citizen, has over 10 years of professional experience in oil and gas legislation and corporate law. Previously, Mr. Tsarni served as Corporate Counsel of Nelson Resources Limited Group as well as Managing Director of several of its operating subsidiaries.
“From 1999 to 2001, Mr. Tsarni worked as Head of Legal Affairs of Golden Eagle Partners LLC.




Long time lurker who holds to the adage, if you don't have anything new to add to a discussion...

Thanks to all who make this board what it is, I appreciate what the regular members put forward on a daily basis.

Thanks for posting that.

It was posted. Just not here.
It was posted in another thread.
No one remembered to also post it here.