American Ate My Brain II

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Postby Hammer of Los » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:48 pm

...

Bruce Lee was in the original tv series of the green hornet.

He outshone the star.

He made a lot of enemies by being too good at what he did.

My god there must be a bruce lee thread around here somewhere.

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Re: American Ate My Brain II

Postby brekin » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:33 pm

Possibly, one of the most important threads on RI. Definitely in the top ten. Worth reading all and Jeff's original posts.
In many ways prophesied what and who has come.

Trump doesn't care if you don't like him
By Julian Zelizer

Donald Trump is betting that America's fascination with the anti-hero will bring him success, writes Julian Zelizer
President-elect has never been tuned into approval ratings, he writes


"Julian Zelizer is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University and a New America fellow. He is the author of "Jimmy Carter" and "The Fierce Urgency of Now: Lyndon Johnson, Congress, and the Battle for the Great Society." He also is the co-host of the podcast "Politics & Polls." The opinions expressed in this commentary are his own."

(CNN)President-elect Donald Trump doesn't really care if you don't like him.
The media has been all over the recent spate of polls showing that Trump will enter office with historically low approval ratings. Trump, who was never especially popular even in his victory, has seen public support for him drop during the transition.

According to a new CNN/ORC poll, he will start his term with the approval of only 40% of Americans, the lowest of any recent president. Of those surveyed, 53% said that Trump's behavior since Election Day has reduced their confidence in his ability to handle the presidency.

Trump is following the authoritarian playbook
Trump went right to his favorite mode of communication, tweeting out that, "The same people who did the phony election polls, and were so wrong, are now doing approval ratings polls. They are rigged just like before." While the email reflects Trump's very thin skin and disregard for everything negative along with a misunderstanding of the difference between election polls and surveys of public attitudes, the truth is that Trump doesn't care.
Trump's entire political character revolves around not being liked. If professional wrestling is the model, a form of entertainment that Trump has been part of, he plays the heel.Several months ago, I wrote that part of the reason Trump resonated in American culture has to do with a popular fascination with the anti-hero in recent decades. Our films and television shows have been populated by characters who we like to see even though we know deep down that they are not good people.
Whether it was Tony Soprano, a mafia boss who is willing to kill turncoats during a college visit with his daughter or Walter White of "Breaking Bad," who makes money for his family by running a drug empire, sometimes being bad can be good.
Throughout his presidential campaign, the pundits kept wondering when Trump would stop angering people, when he would start reaching out and when he would pull back from the incendiary comments that left a long trail of broken feelings along the way.
Trump never made that pivot. He kept being the same person that he was. And even with historically low approval ratings for a winning candidate back in November, he still won.

Even though President Obama brought a great deal of respect and gravitas back to the Oval Office, we still are a nation that lives in the shadow of Richard Nixon. Ever since Watergate, expectations of our presidents have diminished.
Kevin Spacey plays Francis Underwood, the antihero in chief, on "House of Cards."
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Kevin Spacey plays Francis Underwood, the antihero in chief, on "House of Cards."
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Damian Lewis was heartthrob terrorist Nicholas Brody in "Homeland."
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Edie Falco, right, was both brilliant and bad in "Nurse Jackie."
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Ben Affleck blurred the lines between good and evil as Batman in "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice."
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Robert Downey Jr. embodied Tony Stark's dark personal history in the title role in "Iron Man."
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Bryan Cranston's Walter White, right, in "Breaking Bad" was the ultimate 21st-century antihero: a teacher-turned-meth kingpin.
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James Gandolfini's Tony Soprano was the mob boss who killed while visiting colleges with his daughter on "The Sopranos."
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Jon Hamm as Don Draper in "Mad Men" was dapper but emotionally brutal.
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Hugh Laurie's Dr. Gregory House on "House" was a medical detective and drug-addicted narcissist.
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Kevin Spacey plays Francis Underwood, the antihero in chief, on "House of Cards."
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Kevin Spacey plays Francis Underwood, the antihero in chief, on "House of Cards."
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Damian Lewis was heartthrob terrorist Nicholas Brody in "Homeland."
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Edie Falco, right, was both brilliant and bad in "Nurse Jackie."
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Ben Affleck blurred the lines between good and evil as Batman in "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice."
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Robert Downey Jr. embodied Tony Stark's dark personal history in the title role in "Iron Man."
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Bryan Cranston's Walter White, right, in "Breaking Bad" was the ultimate 21st-century antihero: a teacher-turned-meth kingpin.
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Bryan Cranston's Walter White, right, in "Breaking Bad" was the ultimate 21st-century antihero: a teacher-turned-meth kingpin.
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James Gandolfini's Tony Soprano was the mob boss who killed while visiting colleges with his daughter on "The Sopranos."
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Jon Hamm as Don Draper in "Mad Men" was dapper but emotionally brutal.
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Jon Hamm as Don Draper in "Mad Men" was dapper but emotionally brutal.
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Hugh Laurie's Dr. Gregory House on "House" was a medical detective and drug-addicted narcissist.
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Hugh Laurie's Dr. Gregory House on "House" was a medical detective and drug-addicted narcissist.
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Kevin Spacey plays Francis Underwood, the antihero in chief, on "House of Cards."
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Kevin Spacey plays Francis Underwood, the antihero in chief, on "House of Cards."

10 Trump and the rise of the anti-hero

While there were presidents who voters have liked very much, for example Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, we have also become more hard-nosed and cynical in our expectations of what to expect. Part of Trump's strategy was to recognize that there were enough voters who like a tough, acerbic and often nasty candidate to chart a narrow path to the highest office in the land. When asked by the Times of London about who is heroes were, his answer was not surprising: "Well I don't like heroes, I don't like the concept of heroes...."
Part of his strategy also depends on the belief that in a bitterly polarized and divided country, a candidate can thrive not by trying to bring people together but by capitalizing on the things that tear us apart.Rather than looking for issues that can bring non sympathetic voters over to his side, he liked to give the Republican base red meat and to tap into the secret anger and despair of Democrats who were willing to switch sides.
By fostering division and focusing on the institutional strengths of his party, Trump anticipates that a presidency of division will be enough to conquer the opposition. Though his tweet responding to the polls focuses on the way that the polling might be off, more relevant to him is that the basic question doesn't even matter. Being liked is overrated in presidential politics.

The biggest asset that he is counting on will be the Republican Congress. At least for the next two years, Trump is savvy enough to know that he will be dealing with a Republican Congress that on most issues is quite united and thus far has been pleased with many of the very conservative cabinet picks that he has thrown their way.
If Trump can avoid his worst instincts and if conflict-of-interest or abuse-of-power scandals don't bring down his presidency, there is reason to believe that a rightward Republican Congress will stand by him as long as he sends tax cuts, deregulation and defense spending their way. With Jeff Sessions as the attorney general and Scott Pruitt at EPA, what's not to love if you are sitting on the Republican side of the aisle?
It remains to be seen if this strategy will work in the long term. Thus far, it did get Trump the Republican nomination and the presidential election. So the experts should not be so quick to discount him.
It just is possible that the old axiom of "divide and conquer" might be a recipe for political success in our polarized era -- even if many Americans don't want to acknowledge the true nature of our political universe.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/opinions/ ... index.html
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Re: American Ate My Brain II

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:36 pm

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Re: American Ate My Brain II

Postby brekin » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:04 pm

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Re: American Ate My Brain II

Postby brekin » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:37 pm

Lance Armstrong, Antihero

A damning new book about the disgraced champ serves as a reminder: The difference between "villain" and "morally complicated protagonist" is often just in the storytelling.

Ashley Fetters Oct 15, 2013 Culture
Pop-culture pop quiz time:

A cancer survivor—a respected guy, known to be a dad who loves his kids—has a secret: He’s involved with drugs.

The man stashes contraband in designated hiding spots in his home and, on repeated occasions, narrowly avoids getting caught by the authorities. He plays the innocent well enough in his daily, public life, but over a number of years, he becomes known to those close to him as manipulative and cruel; he threatens and intimidates others, including his closest associates, into silence while he continues to run his elaborate enterprise clandestinely.

Did these this series of events happen to

Walter White on Breaking Bad, or
Disgraced cycling champion Lance Armstrong, allegedly, in real life?

Trick question—both are correct. Here’s another one:

A man known for his prodigious talent becomes a well-respected name in his profession. He wins awards. His bosses build their business around his natural gifts. He’s admired by men and women alike. In his private life, however, he’s a philanderer, even though publicly he’s known as a family man with a wife and kids. And he has a career-endangering secret he desperately tries to keep hidden.

Is this the story of

Don Draper on Mad Men, or
Lance Armstrong, allegedly, in real life?

Again, both answers are correct. How about this one:

A respectable American family man is lauded for his fortitude after he pulls through unspeakably dangerous, almost certain-death circumstances. He becomes a celebrity and national hero. He earns the respect and trust of many of America’s most influential people. He even contemplates running for public office at the national level. This man, however, has a secret: He’s duped the American people. What he’s been so thoroughly lionized for doing is, in fact, the opposite of what he’s actually done.

Was this

Nicholas Brody on Homeland, or
Lance Armstrong, allegedly, in real life?

You get the picture.

The “golden age of TV” has offered fans plenty of variations on the story of the seemingly upstanding guy with a disturbing secret life; the one who, it’s revealed as the series unfolds, doesn’t mind lying, and privately doesn’t believe conventional rules apply to him. (Walt, Don, Brody, The Sopranos’ Tony Soprano, House of Cards’s Frank Underwood, and Dexter’s Dexter Morgan.) The shorthand term we’ve often come to use for this frequently fascinating category of duplicitous, morally questionable-to-downright-evil protagonists is “antihero.”
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How Aggressive Narcissism Explains Lance Armstrong

The Lance Armstrong depicted in Reed Albergotti and Vanessa O’Connell’s damning new book, Wheelmen: Lance Armstrong, the Tour De France, and the Greatest Sports Conspiracy Ever, isn’t as bloodthirsty as some of the aforementioned bad-guy protagonists. But he’s nonetheless something like an antihero. Albergotti and O’Connell, two Wall Street Journal reporters who covered the long doping-scandal saga that eventually cost Armstrong his record-breaking seven Tour de France titles, conducted more than 100 interviews with federal investigators, anti-doping agency officials, and the cyclist’s former teammates in the process of writing Wheelmen. Their compiled testimonies, combined with detailed background research, form a portrait of an athlete dangerously obsessed with winning and with protecting his own idea of himself as a winner—both in sports and otherwise. So much so that he presented a benevolent, Superman-like public persona to the sports world, one that emphasized perseverance and integrity, while secretly running (and aggressively protecting) what the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency later called “the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen.”

It’s a chilling tale, and many of the anecdotes Albergotti and O’Connell collected sound like they were actually crafted in a TV-drama writers’ room. The 2004 Tour de France, for instance, found Armstrong riding alongside Italian cyclist Filippo Simeoni. Simeoni had testified against Armstrong’s longtime doctor Michele Ferrari, alleging that Ferrari had told Simeoni “how and when to use doping products.” Armstrong then told the press Simeoni was a liar; Simeoni sued Armstrong for defamation. According to the authors,

when he saw Simeoni making for the breakaway, Armstrong was so enraged that he left the peloton and chased him down. As he put his hand on Simeoni’s back, the television announcers couldn’t quite figure out what Armstrong was doing. Speaking in Italian, Lance told Simeoni: “You made a mistake when you testified against Ferrari and you made a mistake when you sued me. I have a lot of time and money and I can destroy you."

It’s not hard to imagine Kevin Spacey’s disturbingly cordial Frank Underwood—who also seizes control of his own media narrative and threatens to ruin others’ reputations in his pursuit of personal glory—delivering a threat like that. And in March 2009,

Armstrong returned from a training ride in the south of France to discover an official from the AFLD, the French anti-doping agency, waiting for him, ready to take a urine sample. … Armstrong, who was with [U.S. Postal Service team boss Johan] Bruyneel, got off his bike and darted inside his house while Bruyneel blocked the drug tester from entering. After twenty minutes—theoretically enough time to manipulate his bodily fluids to avoid testing positive—Armstrong came out and submitted to the test.

Anti-doping regulations state that an athlete must stay within the sample collector’s sight at all times once he or she has shown up to conduct a test—and thus, Armstrong was in violation of protocol. Once news outlets picked up the story, he explained that he hadn’t expected to be subject to testing by the French authorities, and that he’d run inside to make a phone call and check the tester’s credibility. “But that didn’t explain,” Albergotti and O’Connell add, “why Armstrong went inside and took a shower.”

Showergate, as Armstrong later dubbed it, sounds like something from Breaking Bad’s early-season duping-the-feds-with-smarty-pants-tricks playbook.

In the year since the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency released a stinging 202-page report containing allegations that Armstrong had been doping and lying about it for more than a decade, Armstrong’s popularity has taken a serious hit. Some critics didn’t care that he confessed to and apologized for his actions; as one USA Today columnist put it, “Whatever he said, no one should mistake it for anything other than self-serving truth, admitted only after lies no longer worked,” and as the authors of Wheelmen note, other athletes like champion triathlete Chrissie Wellington angrily distanced themselves from his endorsements. Armstrong was named 2012’s “Sports Villain of the Year” in a British poll, winning by a hefty margin.

But Armstrong’s true story—or, at least, Wheelmen’s account of it—contains enough juicy intrigue that it’s worth pondering: In some alternate universe where Lance Armstrong was a fictional character created in a writers’ room (rather than a real person who’s disappointed millions of people), would he be looked upon with contempt or with fascination? With a few clever storytelling touches—a few glimpses of Lance’s unstable childhood in Texas here, some added emphasis on just wanting to win it for the cancer survivors there, some strategically placed flickers of truly agonized soul-searching—it’s not hard to imagine that his story might even elicit some degree of conflicted compassion. Audiences have, after all, been known to empathize with fictional al Qaeda-aligned terrorists avenging the murder of the boy they loved like a son. They root for fictional murderous outlaw meth manufacturers to escape the feds yet again so that they can continue to provide for their families. It’s not so far-fetched to think some audiences would sympathize with another kind of cheater if his underlying intentions were proven early on to be honorable—more honorable, that is, than simply wanting to win at any cost.
In some alternate universe where Lance Armstrong was a fictional character created in a writers’ room (rather than a real person who’s disappointed millions of people), would he be looked upon with contempt or with fascination?

The problem with real life, however, is that it can’t be engineered to include the kinds of glimpses into underlying intentions that TV can. Current events don’t come with point-of-view shots, or flashbacks, or revealing soliloquies. Real-life characters develop through their actions and their spoken words, not their thoughts; they develop in real time, in neutral shots, in third-person objective. And that often means that the observing public doesn’t see a conflicted protagonist grappling with the moral quandaries of living a secret double life, but a liar—who says he’s one thing and is later exposed as another.

Bill Bock, one half of the U.S Anti-Doping Agency’s legal team that took it upon themselves to discover the truth about Armstrong, recognized this flaw in the now-routine practice of condemning the former champ. Bock’s a regular churchgoer, the authors note, and he

was fond of saying that he sins every day, and though he’d like to think he would never try performance-enhancing drugs, he couldn’t possibly know what it’s like for professional athletes faced with the decision of whether to dope or risk career-altering consequences.

What Bock notes, in other words, is that most of us have no idea what kind of circumstance would lead a person to believe it’s OK to cheat and lie (and intimidate others into lying or staying silent on your behalf), as Armstrong allegedly did. And unless we’d seen it all unfold from his perspective, it would be unfair to say we categorically wouldn’t do the same. Unfortunately for Armstrong, we didn’t watch it unfold that way—and Albergotti and O’Connell certainly didn’t either. Armstrong’s story is a sad, powerful testament to the fact that the difference between a villain and an antihero is sometimes just that an antihero has a compelling point of view that his audience is allowed to see.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... ro/280556/
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