Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby ninakat » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:14 pm

Well I don't know about the Guardian and Der Speigal, but unless I've missed something, are they covering the kinds of stories that Project Censored exposes?

Listening right now to this talk from Peter Phillips:

Guns and Butter
August 4, 2010 - 1:00pm
"The American Media Empire of Managed News" with Dr. Peter Phillips. Propaganda model post 9/11 becomes deliberate disinformation; consolidation of media and public relations groups; prison torture across the US; domestic secret detention centers; Operation FALCON mass arrests...

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/show/34
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:50 pm

This is Project Censored on the difference between the Guardian's analysis of wikileaks' Kabul War Diary and the times coverage:

US Corporate Media Downplays Pentagon’s Special Commando Assassination Unit

By Peter Phillips and Mickey Huff

The New York Times, Washington Post, and most other newspapers in the US are censoring or under-reporting the WikiLeaks documents that show US Task Force 373 (TF 373) is an out-of-control assassination unit responsible for the deaths of many hundreds of civilians in Afghanistan.

Nick Davies’ lengthy article in the London Guardian July 26, describes how the WikiLeaks war logs show TF 373 as a shadowy kill-or-capture squad hunting the Taliban’s most-wanted.



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Postby Nordic » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:55 pm

Wow. Leave it to Project Censored to get to the meat of the issue.
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby wintler2 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:41 pm

Pentagon bars staff from visiting WikiLeaks site

The U.S. military is banning personnel from visiting the WikiLeaks website, which recently released more than 70,000 classified diplomatic and military messages on the long war in Afghanistan.
"[Department of the Navy] personnel should not access the WikiLeaks website to view or download the publicized classified information," said a July 29 message to sailors from the Navy's national security litigation law division. "Doing so would introduce potentially classified information on unclassified networks."

"There has been rumor that the information is no longer classified since it resides in the public domain. This is NOT true," said the message, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Times.

Asked if the Pentagon is making the site off-limits, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told The Times that all four services "have put out such messages." ..
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby hanshan » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:48 pm

...

This, also, is interesting:

Open Source Tools Turn WikiLeaks Into Illustrated Afghan Meltdown (Updated)

It’s one thing to read about individual Taliban attacks in WikiLeaks’ trove of war logs. It’s something quite different to see the bombings and the shootings mount, and watch the insurgency metastasize.

NYU political science grad student (and occasional Danger Room contributor) Drew Conway has done just that, using an open source statistical programming language called R and a graphical plotting software tool. The results are unnerving, like stop-motion photography of a freeway wreck. Above is the latest example: a graph showing the spread of combat from 2004 to 2009. It’s exactly what you wouldn’t want to see as a war drags on.



http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/08/open-source-wikileaked-docs-illustrated-afghan-meltdown/?intcid=postnav#ixzz0wPYPnjIi


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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:41 pm

Proudly on Wikileaks' Side
I recently discussed the Pentagon's "demand" that Wikileaks cancel any plans to publish additional materials, and that Wikileaks "pull back" all the documents it has already released. It would appear the Pentagon believes that Wikileaks is staffed by monks living in secret caves, producing but a handful of illuminated manuscripts with infinite patience over many decades. "Pull back those illuminated manuscripts!" cries the Pentagon. "All nine of them!" So much for the U.S. government's understanding of the realities of the internet age. I suggest you avoid serious or prolonged contemplation of the fact that those who run the U.S. military combine the most frighteningly destructive power ever known to humankind with a level of understanding permanently halted somewhere around 1150 A.D.

About this earlier performance by the Pentagon, I observed: "If the Pentagon and its press secretary did not speak on behalf of a government that embodies unrelenting, world-historical evil, this would be merely funny. As it is, the amusement is that offered by especially vicious practitioners of Grand Guignol who are execrable farceurs. The laughter drips blood and suffering."

By his glorious refusal to obey the orders of serial murderers, Julian Assange has revealed that those who would rule us are entirely powerless once you withdraw your support. If you refuse to obey, if you say "No" -- and if you mean it, as Assange does -- they have nothing.

Since they have been rendered powerless in this encounter, but because they have no means of expression other than to continue this inept effort at Grand Guignol laced with the hysterical laughter of a deranged killer, the Pentagon offers us another chapter of this doomed attempt to regain a semblance of control:
The Pentagon says it believes the next document dump by WikiLeaks will be even more damaging to national security and the war effort than the organization's initial release of some 76,000 war files.

Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said Thursday that the military believes it has identified the additional 15,000 classified documents that WikiLeaks has vowed to release.

Morrell declined to identify the documents other than to say that their exposure would be even more damaging than the thousands already published.

Consider the infinite tragedy of the Pentagon's dilemma.

Here we have the most fearsome military machine in history. At the moment, it continues a criminal occupation of one country (which country the U.S. has utterly destroyed, not coincidentally), an occupation which follows a criminal war of aggression, while the same military pursues a criminal war in another country. It also seeks to widen this war into additional neighboring countries, while it continues to threaten still more countries that refuse to behave exactly as the U.S. demands, although those countries are entirely within their rights to do so.

Simultaneously, the U.S. has launched operations "in at least 75 countries, and made "[p]lans ... for preemptive or retaliatory strikes in numerous places around the world." And the U.S. continues to utilize torture systematically, as a "legitimate" method of waging war. Despite Obama's repeated claims to have "ended" torture, the U.S.'s use of torture has never ceased even for a moment (1, 2).

We must add that the current rulers of American Empire claim the "right" to murder anyone in the world, for any reason they choose -- or for no reason at all. Considering all these factors, one and only one conclusion is indicated, indeed compelled: the leaders of American Empire are war criminals. I repeat once more my constant refrain on this issue: if you read the linked post, you will see that this is not an arguable point in any respect. Since it cannot be argued, it is ignored completely.

So let's be sure to understand the Pentagon's position. Led and directed by war criminals, the Pentagon engages in criminal occupation, criminal war, the instigation of wider war, unceasing threats against non-existent dangers, and systematic torture. Of course, we could add much more to this list, but time is not unlimited. But according to the Pentagon itself, with regard to this monstrous and murderous behavior, we're now supposed to regret that Wikileaks' next release of documents might be "even more damaging to national security and the war effort"?

As the previous homicidal Leader of Empire was heard to say: "Bring it on!" Bring on more and more and more documents. Don't just "damage" the continuation of criminal war and murder: if you can, stop these bastards in their tracks.

One widely-read writer who consistently supports the Empire in its course of death and destruction recently stated that he thinks Assange is "a tool." For years, the same writer has propagated a vicious smear, maintaining that those who oppose the American Death State aren't antiwar, but "just on the other side." As with all smears of this kind, he carefully selects isolated instances of behavior that almost anyone would judge negatively, and focuses on a few individuals of questionable moral status. Using this meaningless and intentionally distorted foundation, he offers a very broad conclusion: that anyone who is seriously opposed to the American Empire's ceaseless campaign of conquest, brutalization and murder is "on the other side." (As one example, note the second item at the preceding link, concerning "Code Pink's head-scratching war on drones," which offers a typically complete inversion of the facts. By the way, it was Reynolds who approvingly linked the loathsome Varadarajan article discussed in the concluding section of this article, which is how I happened to see it.)

Julian Assange seeks to stop the murder and the torture. He seeks to stop the monstrous cruelty. He acts to protect innocent human life.

If this is what it means to be a "tool," if this is what being "on the other side" now signifies, then, yes: you bet your lying ass I'm on the other side, motherfucker.

Yet even now, I'm perfectly willing to be magnanimous on one point, and I'm prepared to acknowledge Reynolds' disdain for those who are merely "tools." Surely Reynolds himself is no tool, despite the fact that on every significant matter, he speaks on behalf of the ruling class and its agenda. (We will but note one rather glaring inconsistency. In the Age of Obama, Reynolds writes endless posts proclaiming that the government, and most especially the Democrats, aren't to be trusted on anything, most particularly not on anything to do with domestic and economic policy. In that realm, Reynolds considers them to be entirely ignorant, when not viciously punitive. Yet somehow, in one of those magical transformations that are never explained, when it comes to matters of war and murder, the government uniformly acts out of the highest motives and the deepest understanding, on behalf of liberty and peace. If Reynolds and his many followers have any complaint at all with regard to foreign policy, it is only that the United States doesn't bomb and kill enough. Thus, on economic and domestic policy: Worse than useless and ignorant. On war, conquest and murder: More, please! For the defenders of Empire, the contradiction doesn't even exist.)

But we decline to follow Reynolds' own example. We will not disparage Reynolds by calling him a "tool." Rather, we should adopt terms that he himself would seem to prefer: he is a fully knowing, intentional, systematic propagandist.

And I am "on the other side," on Wikileaks' side -- and very proudly so.
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby wintler2 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:46 pm

Bump.
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:21 am

Swedes Protect WikiLeaks, Hire Assange as Columnist
Posted: 2010/08/14
From: Mathaba
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Constitutional support, newspaper job, 15,000 more documents, new WikiLeaks website.



STOCKHOLM (Rixstep) — Julian Assange's visit in the Swedish capital achieved several things. Assange will be writing for Aftonbladet and WikiLeaks will be applying for full source protection under Swedish constitutional law.

Assange already works with the New York Times, the Guardian, and Der Spiegel. But he's not yet worked as a columnist for any publication. Starting now that will change.

Assange met Aftonbladet's editor in chief Jan Helin yesterday.

'It's no coincidence that I'm going to be writing for a Swedish paper. The Swedish publicist culture and Swedish law have supported us from the beginning', said Assange.

Aftonbladet Interview Transcript

'What will you write about?'
'About press issues and about what's happening around the world. There might be some scoops.'

'Does this mean Aftonbladet will work together with WikiLeaks?'
'We're not going to rule that out.'

'Why work with the media in this way?'
'We promise our sources maximum exposure of their materials.'

'How often will you be writing?'
'Once a month.'

'You've been under a lot of pressure from the Pentagon and the White House.'
'Yes, unbelievable pressure. The White House tried rhetorical tricks and spread lies on the sly about us. Journalists have to be more on their guard about what's said about us. But we also got a lot of support.'

'Have you been threatened?'
'Yes. The US defence department made three demands. That we destroy all materials we've published on Afghanistan, that we destroy all other materials we've not yet published, and that if we don't obey, they'll force us to do it.'

'Force you? How?
'They didn't say.'

'But WikiLeaks won't back down?'
'Of course not. We don't accept such threats. We'll continue our mission. The Pentagon's demands must be emphatically rejected.'

'What does the future look like?'
'We need more money. We're getting more materials than we can handle today. We need to hire more help. We've received $1 million in donations so far this year but it's not enough.'

Sweden Important for WikiLeaks

Sweden is important for WikiLeaks. The country has an industry for a new type of refugee: journalists and publicists, says Julian Assange. 'Swedes should be proud of their protection of freedom of the press.'

Assange is aware of foreign minister Carl Bildt's claim there are no ongoing formal discussions with the the US on the subject of WikiLeaks but he's aware of informal discussions taking place in other countries - it's 'standard procedure', he says.

'I assume informal contacts have been established in Sweden. But we'll have to wait a bit longer for proof', he says.

WikiLeaks are actively soliciting this information from contacts within the Swedish government. 'We have people in Sweden currently working on it', Assange says.

WikiLeaks will be applying for a Swedish certificate of publication ('utgivningsbevis') next week to guarantee that the organisation will be protected by Swedish constitutional law, even though they've already been offered such protection from two Swedish publications. This Swedish constitutional protection increases support for WikiLeaks, says Assange.

'But we're dealing with organisations that don't obey the law - we're dealing with intelligence agencies', says Assange.

15,000 More

WiliLeaks plan to release a further 15,000 documents hopefully in the coming fortnight. 'We have a responsibility to get this out into the world and to the Afghan people.' Assange is convinced Sweden and the US are working together to try to stop the coming leaks - Sweden plays a big part in their distribution.

As to a closer collaboration with Sweden: 'I don't know how much closer we can get', says Assange.

Responsibility to the Afghan People

'We have a responsibility to the Afghan people', says Assange, 'where hundreds of people are killed each week. We should be able to publish again in a fortnight if we can keep working at the same tempo.'

'We publish raw materials without analysis or interpretation. Then it's up to journalists, researchers, and the public to review them
.'

I guess Assange is conning the Swedes also :roll:
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:28 am

I partly agree with Webster Tarpley's assessment of a limited hang-out serving multiple purposes, just like the Pentagon Papers. There's a mix of sincerity and strategic editing.

There's a lot being left out of wikileaks, like 9/11, just like NSAM 263 was missing from the Pentagon Papers.

Yesterday I heard Judy Woodruff on CIA-PBS reinforcing the idea that Vietnam was Kennedy's legacy when she 'interviewed' an author with a book about LBJ.

The Biggest Secrets are carefully kept hidden by promoting Other Things.
9/11 is The Big One and joins Dealey Plaza as the darkest truth that must be masked by exposing less significant crimes.
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:18 pm

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If Wikileaks/Assange were truly operating on their own devices, you think he'd be on Larry King, or getting this level of exposure in the MSM?

As pointed out by that Floyd article and alluded by some others here, it seems to me this lad is either being used [unbeknownst to him] as a tool to advance agendas by 'The Handlers' -- though that would have required some nuanced planning to perform such a trick without Assange's knowledge and/or complicity -- or, he's yet another stooge, playing his part.

Just my cynical opinion, of course. If he is legit, he certainly wouldn't be invited on Larry King, nor would his site have received such MSM attention [releasing the 'leaks' to MSM outlets instead of blogs raises the eyebrow at the least]. Nah -- if he was the genuine article, he'd likely be MIA or shoved down the memory hole, or the wikileaks site would have been shut down, or their service provider would have been instructed to shut them down, or their servers [and any backups] would have been taken out, either by clandestine or overt methods [no need to be clandestine when any number of "accidents" can be manufactured], etc etc..

Forgive me -- clearly I must have an over-active imagination, and more importantly, know not what I speak of. Surely wikileaks is run by some private server farm by a select group of uber-techies within an undisclosed location outside the U.S.; no need for a service provider!

Alas..

Domain Name: WIKILEAKS.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.WIKIA.COM
Name Server: NS2.WIKIA.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 13-jan-2009
Creation Date: 03-jan-2007
Expiration Date: 03-jan-2011

godaddy.com! Don't get much more mainstream than that, huh? Hell, they got a hot NASCAR chick as their spokesperson for chrissakes! May God Continue to Bless America...
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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:26 pm

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EDIT: found this interesting link:

https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spy ... otcom.html



Info for wikileaks.org [as opposed to .COM] --

Domain ID:D130035267-LROR
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Last Updated On:07-Apr-2010 16:33:28 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Oct-2018 05:54:19 UTC
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Postby barracuda » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:28 pm

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Re: Secret Archive Grim View of Afghan War - Wikileaks ONLINE

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:37 pm

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yes indeed -- I performed some google queries AFTER my post [as opposed to before -- usually the wiser move], and stumbled across the link provided by the 'cuda above.

However, my sentiment remains the same -- he simply looks too much the part, like some character in an Angelina Jolie political-scifi-espionage thriller.. or perhaps I'm simply envious of his flowing silver locks..
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Postby barracuda » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:50 pm

It's a good look.

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:56 pm

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that's hot.
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