'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby jam.fuse » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:21 am

Also allegedly, Mr. Albini dated a playboy bunny in college despite his, uh... appearance (that's him in the middle above) and according to rock legend lives exclusively on red meat and heroin; however that last bit is strictly hearsay and innuendo, and should be taken with a couple or three grains of salt, no pun intended.

Thus endeth today's sycophantic tales of... Heros of Rock!!!

Also according to Steve Martin's delightful autobiography of his standup career, Born Standing Up, the name of the band is actually Eagles, not 'The' Eagles. As a fan of both performer and band I found that interesting.

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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby jam.fuse » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:40 am

Nordic wrote:The 2 radio stations in Los Angeles that are actually rock stations (and both of which have no idea how much they suck compared to other cities -- LA has truly one of the worst radio scenes you can imagine) have been taking the bait with this and playing more Nirvana than ever. Which is saying something, because they usually play a Nirvana song about once an hour. They might be playing more nirvana now than they ever did.

Radio here is so bizarre. KROQ, whivh fancies itself a top rock station, but which is not, plays nirvana every hour. Also old Smashing Pumpkins once an hour. And I would guess Red Hot Chile Peppers about every 30 minutes. They remind me of supposed "rock" stations in places like Dallas which still constantly play The Eagles like it's still new.

I honestly don't get it.

The good radio is on the internet these days, like a lot of things:

http://www.wfmu.org for example is one of the best!
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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby vince » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:47 am

I will say Kurt was nice enough to constantly wear that Daniel Johnston T-shirt!
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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:59 am

vince wrote:I will say Kurt was nice enough to constantly wear that Daniel Johnston T-shirt!
THAT GUY was/is Dylan-Lennon-McCartney-Brain Wilson & Syd Barrett COMBINED !!!!



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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:23 pm

Nordic wrote:So this is all just PR, advertising, the usual manipulative bullshit. I wondered "why the headline about being the "most important" and all that rot?", well, they want people to argue about this. You know, just like we are.

Hype.

There was, in fact, a documentary made about the Seattle rock explosion called "Hype". Anybody see that? It played at Sundance and SXSW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hype!


Thanks for the heads up. I'd never heard of it.

As for the hype, I was at the show where it moved in. Still have the T-shirt. Rolling Stone reviewed it posthumously two years after (I've since lost the mag, but I remember Led Zep's retrospective release was one of the feature stories) and they mentioned the locust-like descending of music agents upon the scene, in particular that night's venue (an epic two night show of MLB and friends at the central).

Caveat: This is simply my own observation as someone on the ground with interaction with the scene but not the actual artists in any meaningful way.... The heroin came flooding in on the heels of the LA promo guys and the wind changed with it. IMO, they cultivated the depressing stuff, suppressing the true sound which was admittedly a reaction to Reaganism and bad weather ( and as a friend explained to me, you gotta remember, these guys have been doing mushrooms since fourth grade...) but was not as depressive as the rather cynical later packaging of the bands by the mainstream.

Two friends of mine travelled with Tad and Nirvana on their big tour pre-fame. They came home to tell us (while laughing wickedly) "Nobody gets it, they play these venues and people don't know what to do because they don't get it". They still 'don't get it'. I am amazed by the younger people on boards who idolize every word from Kurt, yet still in his words, 'don't know what it means'. In that I pity Nirvana and Kurt. The hype made people think they could know what was going on, but most of them internalized it as a teenage angst rather than the despair (which has paralells currently) of an adult who is faced with the consequences of Reaganomics, etc and that time and place.

In my own experience, most people didn't think they 'got it' until someone-unseen-else played it on the radio and MTV with all those validating commercials and other stamps of corporate approval AKA fucking hype....
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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:13 pm

We were not out to kill ourselves.

We were dancing in the streets to impromptu bands.

Moshing in Seattle was mind-blowing because people were kind and you never hit the ground...it was an act of faith, not violence.

We were building a DIY network of can-do that appears to persist to this day.

And we were anticipating the future.

Pretty much the opposite of factors when looking for them in a depressive suicide.

IMO, Seattle was murdered. Fame was one of the weapons.
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Re: 'Nevermind' Is The Most Important Rock Album of All Time

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:19 pm

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At least it's possible. Nevermind being indisputably a Rock and Roll album, and a pretty good one. It's not as if someone claimed that the St. Louis Cardinals are the greatest soccer team, or that The Lord of the Rings is the greatest science fiction novel, right?

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