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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:15 pm

Thank you. I'd rather focus specifically on cycling issues. If you do a search, you'll find that article has been discussed before on the board quite recently.

Ah yes, I searched The Gothamist unsuccessfully thinking I had read it there.

New York Bike Lanes Booby-Trapped with thumb tacks

http://workingbikescoop.blogspot.com/2012/07/new-york-bike-lanes-booby-trapped-with.html

New York City Cyclists are crying foul after a rash of incidents involving thumb tacks being left on the bike trails in Central Park. More than a dozen cyclists have reportedly been injured and many more have endured flat bicycle tires, as the riders demand that police collar the person involved.


Not just NYC-that being my geo-centric bias- but Portland, Chicago, St. Pete.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 pm

Ahab wrote:Here's a question: why did the Maya (so far as we know) independently invent the wheel, and then (so far as we know) use it for nothing but children's toys?


I'm guessing it was because they lived in a tropical jungle, much of it also very hilly. The cost of building and maintaining paved roads capable of facilitating the reliable movement of wheeled vehicles would have been prohibitive. Walking was quicker. And slave (or serf-class) carriers were already available in abundance.

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I have no idea how much actual commerce there was between individual Mayan settlements, but I have the impression that they were largely self-sufficient. So there was no good reason to build roads, and without roads wheels are of very limited practical use, especially in the jungle.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby dada » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:21 pm

The orthodox community in south Brooklyn has been fighting bike lanes for a few years now. This Wall Street Journal piece downplays it, but word on the street is the main reason has been that girls are dressed too provocatively while bike riding, which offends religious sensibilities.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/06/11/an-ultra-orthodox-neighborhood-goes-against-bikes/
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Gnomad » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:17 am

barracuda wrote:
    Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.

    - H. G. Wells

    Progress should have stopped when man invented the bicycle.

    - Elizabeth West

    Socialism can only arrive by bicycle.

    - Jose Antonio Viera Gallo

    I thought of it while riding my bicycle.

    - Albert Einstein



You missed Hoffmann and his acid bike ride!

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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Gnomad » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:22 am

MacCruiskeen wrote:I have no idea how much actual commerce there was between individual Mayan settlements, but I have the impression that they were largely self-sufficient. So there was no good reason to build roads, and without roads wheels are of very limited practical use, especially in the jungle.


Yes, but that is true only for wheels other than modern pneumatic tires. You can easily ride most of the trails and footpaths with a modern mountain bike, and faster and with less energy expenditure than you can walk them. Where I live, almost all trails in the woods are rideable, save for winter, when there is snow. And even then, you can ride them whenever a few days have passed from last snowfall, and walkers have compacted the snow enough to support wide tyres.

And then there are these bikes:
http://fatbikes.com/

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You can ride fatties on snow, soft sand, mud, even mires that have sufficient vegetation on top of the water to carry the weight... One guy even rode the Iditabike snow race in Alaska totally unsupported, 1000 miles in the snow, carrying everything he needed and setting no foot in any structure during the trip.

But without inventing rubber and air-filled tires, the wheel alone ain't that good. But give me bearings, steel spokes and rubber tires, and it's all magic :)

Me, I ride almost every day. I ride to work, and for fun. Yearly, around 10 000 km, through the winter as well - last 3 winters there has been loads of snow and temps down to -30 C, but yet I ride. Or push, depending on how much snow has fallen ;)
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Gnomad » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:43 am

And to those who say "you can't bike in Canada!" or "it hurts" or "its too hard" - harden up! Life isn't supposed to be easy - it is hard all the way till you die. Hardship makes you stronger. We get easily as much snow as you there in Canada. It is just a matter of attitude and the right clothing.

After last winter, I gained a few centimeters in the circumference of my legs. Muscle. Come summer, my bike just flies on the asphalt and trail. Its a great workout, pedaling in fresh snow. And in the summer, you can easily ride 200 km in a day with camping gear and food with you, when you are fit. And fit you will be, when you ride.

It is a chicken and egg situation - if you are unfit and unaccustomed to riding a bike, sure, in the first couple of weeks your ass will hurt, because you let it get soft and fat. After a while, you notice it doesn't hurt anymore, and the distances you can comfortably go get longer and longer. Or another way to put it would be the classic quote "It never gets easier, you just go faster" (and for longer!) ;)

And I hope I will die, not of old age, alzheimers, dementia and cancer, lying tied to hoses in a hospital bed, but rather with my riding boots on, doing what feels good.

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All over the United States and indeed the world, people are riding bicycles. Forget about saving the planet, that is not the reason; it is a satisfying and civilized way to travel. Faster and more efficient than walking, and for not much more energy input; compared to driving a person is burning calories rather than gasoline.

A person riding to work each day on his bicycle is traveling for free; he gets there in only slightly less time that his colleague who drives. In some congested cities the cyclists gets there faster. He has not had to allot time to exercise or pay gym fees. When he gets to his destination he has fewer problems with parking.

Many more people would ride bicycles but they are afraid of being hit by cars. There are still a those who will try to intimidate and bully anyone in their way. The whole “Share the Road” concept is flawed in that it implies that the roads are for cars and cyclists are asking drivers to share space with them.

This is not the case; public roads are just that, “Public.” They are there for people to travel from their home to where ever they need to be. The right is for the person to travel, not according to the persons’ mode of transport.

There is no pleasure in driving anymore; it is the myth and the lie being sold to the public by the auto-makers.

Look at any car ad on TV and what do you see? The obligatory slow motion shot of a car sliding sideways in a controlled skid; cars driving at break neck speed on deserted streets and highways.

This is not reality; on today’s congested roadways, not only is driving fast impractical, it is downright dangerous. And what useful purpose does it serve? There is a legitimate argument for being allowed to maintain high speeds for long journeys on freeways that traverse miles and miles of open countryside.

However, when freeways approach cities and become congested, there is a definite need to slow to the same speed as everyone else. It is the driver trying to maintain his high rate of speed under these conditions that not only cause accidents, but cause people to brake and in turn lead to the stop and go traffic conditions that are all too familiar.

The best thing a person can do is to realize that getting from A to B is a necessity; so if you can’t make it a pleasure then at least make it stress free. Opt out of the culture of speed; slow down and relax.

Speed limits need to be lowered to 20mph in crowded city centers where there are many pedestrians and cyclists. Would such a speed limit have a great impact on peoples’ over all drive time?

In most cases drivers simply accelerate to race from one traffic light to the next. On long stretches of highway, traffic lights can be timed so someone driving the speed limit can have green lights all the way through a town.

The faster cars go the more space is needed between each car. Therefore, people moving slower but continuously in a procession can travel closer to each other. This means traffic is moving slower but on any given stretch of highway it is carrying a larger volume of vehicles. So is the overall flow of vehicles per hour that much less? Bottom line is; people still get to where they need to be.

The world is becoming more and more crowded; populations are exploding everywhere including the US. Every person who rides a bicycle is taking one more car off the road, making more room for those who choose to drive.

Wouldn’t life be a little more pleasant if everyone slowed down a notch? So what if it took you five or ten minutes longer to get to work, at the end of each day would that make a huge difference? Of course wishing for this is wishing for Utopia; but who would argue that it would be better if less people had to die on our roads.

The cities across America that have adopted a “Bicycle Friendly” program, have found that when more people ride bicycles the overall speed of traffic slows. With that comes less fatalities, not just for cyclists, but across the board for pedestrians and motorists too.


Dave has great articles on history of cycling in Britain. Bikes made Britain work before the automobile, quite contradicting what f.ex. Canadian Watcher claimed...most people rode most everywhere they went, before cars became commonplace.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:47 am

Yes, but that is true only for wheels other than modern pneumatic tires.


Oh yeah, but I mean the Mayans didn't have those! Nor, of course, did the Europeans until about 100 years ago. It makes all the difference. Imagine riding a bike without pneumatic tyres or suspension, even on a level paved road. Then imagine doing it through a trackless mountainous jungle. You'd get sick of it very quickly, not just because it was uncomfortable and dangerous, but also because it was slower than any practical alternative, e.g. walking.

Me, I ride almost every day. I ride to work, and for fun. Yearly, around 10 000 km, through the winter as well - last 3 winters there has been loads of snow and temps down to -30 C, but yet I ride. Or push, depending on how much snow has fallen ;)


Good for you, Gnomad. You're right, it's not nearly as difficult as people say it is, especially if you live in a fairly flat place. Like everything else, it's a matter of developing habits you want to have rather than enduring habits that come easily. Cycling through snow can be really exhilarating, as long as you're dressed for it. I used to cycle nearly everywhere nearly all the time, but I've been getting a bit lazy recently, especially in winter.

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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Gnomad » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:52 am

Yea Mac, I agree - that was my point bout the mayans...

This is the blog of Mike Curiak, a wheelbuilder fellow who rode the Iditabike in Alaska unsupported (that I mentioned earlier) - http://lacemine29.blogspot.fi/

http://lacemine29.blogspot.fi/2010/12/i ... t-one.html

Crossing Australia alone on a bike:
http://www.cyclelicio.us/2006/01/surly- ... ys-in.html
His own blog on the trip: http://www.wildworks.co.nz/csr/home.php

Snow tours in Lapland:
http://xxcmag.com/archives/3570 Video
http://fat-bike.com/2012/04/fatbiking-i ... -150-race/

The guy who lives on his bike and has done so for most of his life, riding more than probably anyone else, and visiting all countries -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_St%C3%BCcke
His own page: http://www.heinzstucke.com/
(he doesn't ride any high end bike either, but a heavy steel 3 speed)
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:11 am

MacCruiskeen wrote:
Ahab wrote:Here's a question: why did the Maya (so far as we know) independently invent the wheel, and then (so far as we know) use it for nothing but children's toys?


I'm guessing it was because they lived in a tropical jungle, much of it also very hilly. The cost of building and maintaining paved roads capable of facilitating the reliable movement of wheeled vehicles would have been prohibitive. Walking was quicker. And slave (or serf-class) carriers were already available in abundance.

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I have no idea how much actual commerce there was between individual Mayan settlements, but I have the impression that they were largely self-sufficient. So there was no good reason to build roads, and without roads wheels are of very limited practical use, especially in the jungle.


This fits with the idea Barracuda was getting at, how slavery (or widespread serfdom) tends to stunt technological progress in a society (as it did in the antebellum South). If the Maya hadn't settled for human carriers as the one correct method of transporting goods they would've eventually had to domesticate animals like horses and oxen to do it. Eventually roads, or at least wider and more developed tracks, would have followed from the movements of large numbers of these animals along pre-determined paths. We certainly know they could've built roads if they'd wanted to! But if you're just sending a long line of disposable people with packs round their necks then there is no point, I agree.

With domesticated animals and knowledge of the wheel they would have eventually got round to carts, and then improved roads, so it would've been easier to move larger amounts of goods or people around at a faster pace. From the little I've read the Maya do seem to have had quite extensive trade routes within their "realm", but with no horses travel would have been exceptionally slow, so the central authorities couldn't quickly learn of or deal with any threats that appeared in the outlying regions. Obviously this put them at a huge disadvantage when the mounted Spaniards turned up.

Apparently there were quite large areas of savannah, natural meadow, plains, etc. in MesoAmerica, but a hell of a lot of mountains and jungle too, so... yeah. I think we have solved the riddle of why the Maya didn't all go around on push bikes.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:20 am

with no horses


That's another thing. Did the Mayans have any large native domesticable animals at their disposal? Anything more powerful than a human, plus also capable of being trained to pull a cart?

I don't think so. But I'm certainly no expert and I'll be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:44 am

Uh, actually... no, not really. :oops: There were musk oxen, but I'm not sure anybody has ever succesfully harnessed one of those to a cart anywhere at any time. Kind of puts paid to my idea.

For some reason I thought there were small wild horses available to them that they never bothered to tame, but they had apparently all died out long before Mayan civillization arose for reasons unknown. About the closest thing they had to a pack animal seems to have been a peccary, a medium-sized wild pig related to the rhinoceros. :shock:

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Not ideal either for pulling a cart or for riding into battle.

When they saw the Spanish horses they used the same word for them as they did for deer, which they had partially domesticated as a food source.

Ok, I will shut up about the Mayans now.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:19 am

Gnomad wrote:Me, I ride almost every day. I ride to work, and for fun. Yearly, around 10 000 km, through the winter as well - last 3 winters there has been loads of snow and temps down to -30 C, but yet I ride. Or push, depending on how much snow has fallen ;)
That's great. Ditto here. Riding in the winter is the one thing that gets me into the space I gotta be in to deal with the winter in the first place. Considering my last several years, I'd say my 365-day cycling transport mode is the sole unequivocally positive change I have ever made in my life. Indeed, it can be exhilarating in the snowy cold. :jumping:

Gnomad wrote:And to those who say "you can't bike in Canada!" or "it hurts" or "its too hard" - harden up! Life isn't supposed to be easy - it is hard all the way till you die. Hardship makes you stronger. We get easily as much snow as you there in Canada. It is just a matter of attitude and the right clothing.
I used to share this attitude a bit stronger. I mean, I agree, but have adopted a more live and let live approach. Though I would encourage the sentiment, tempered somewhat, as a way to encourage others to consider what they might be missing.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Canadian_watcher » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:58 am

Spiro C. Thiery wrote:
Gnomad wrote:And to those who say "you can't bike in Canada!" or "it hurts" or "its too hard" - harden up! Life isn't supposed to be easy - it is hard all the way till you die. Hardship makes you stronger. We get easily as much snow as you there in Canada. It is just a matter of attitude and the right clothing.
I used to share this attitude a bit stronger. I mean, I agree, but have adopted a more live and let live approach. Though I would encourage the sentiment, tempered somewhat, as a way to encourage others to consider what they might be missing.


I might have been missing a mental breakdown if I'd have had to add the purchase of weathrproof clothing for myself and my growing child (at the time I remember I couldn't even afford an umbrella.. true story), along with about 20 kms of hilly, snowy terrain to my single parenthood, the lawsuit I was being forced to go through at the time, and the two (yes two) stalkers I had for a year or so there. Then again who knows, maybe I'd be the Prime Minster now if I'd have just been tougher.

I know, I know, this isn't about me, and everyone's situation is different - it's just that I happen to know a lot of people who seriously could NOT ride their bikes for their daily routine. Not possible, and it peeves me to keep hearing, "oh come on, it's tough but it'd be good for you!"

that's a bit utopian and willfully blind for my taste.
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Re: The bicycle.

Postby barracuda » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:21 am

I definitely had you in mind, gnomad, when I was contemplating beginning this thread. Good stuff.

Speaking of snow-riding, virtually all downhill speed records are held by bicycles traveling on snow like a bat outta hell. Check out Markus Stöckl going 210 km/h here:



And here's the video of Eric Barone's famous and epic wipe-out at 110 miles per hour down the side of a volcano.

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Re: The bicycle.

Postby Nordic » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:42 pm

I love riding bikes. When I was living in Wisconsin, as a kid (eighth grade until 10th grade), I finally got a decent bike and went everywhere. Would take my fishing rod with me and drive to the various lakes and trout streams around. I didn't care much about the weather, but I was a kid, and nothing bothered me too much. Except the wind. The wind on the prairie can exhaust you.

Now, however, I live in Los Angeles. If you ride a bike here, you're taking your life in your hands. It is NOT relaxing. It is NOT fun. It is frightening and extremely stressful. There are, however, more and more people on bikes here. Which is good. The more awareness of bikes, the better. That being said, there is still a constant spate of incidents where bikers get hit by cars. Often fatally. Seems to happen about once a week or so here. One just happened a few days ago on the Pacific Coast Highway, right in Santa Monica.

My wife had to go to the emergency room a while back, and the other people there were all cyclists who had been hit by cars. Some were severely injured.

Personally I cannot use a bike to get to work because i work all over the region, and on any given day my job site might be as many as 40 or even 60 miles away.

Also, for school it's impossible because my kids go to two different schools, both miles apart.

Of course this is Los Angeles, not exactly the bike friendly capital of the world, and certainly the car-iest. And as we all know, the car being King here was the result of, yes, a conspiracy.

I would love to live closer to my son's school. My stepdaughter started walking home from school last year, but after a few creepy guys in cars started giving her the willies, she now asks us to drive her. She's an extremely gorgeous 16 year old girl, so I'm happy to play bodyguard with the car. So if one of us could walk my son to school that would be awesome, but we cannot afford to move. We're pretty stuck. Moving here would cost about $5K up front.

My wife has totalled two cars so far this year. I guess she really doesn't like driving. This has forced us to have only one car! Unthinkable in this city! I sorta like it. Sometimes she drops me off at work and keeps the car for the day. Ironically this can actually increase the amount of fuel we burn. Two round trips to the work site instead of one.

Getting off topic, but I wanted to say this:

I wish bikers here would use some common fucking sense and drive as if they were cars. In the last few days I've almost slaughtered 2 cyclists. One of them driving down a major boulevard here suddenly swerved right in front of me. As I passed him, my heart pounding, fighting back a desire to yell at him "I'm almost killed you asshole!" I realized he had fucking HEADPHONES over his ears! He couldn't hear me (my car of my hypothetical yelling). What a fucking DUMBASS. If you're gonna ride a bike with the cars in Los Fucking Angeles, don't plus your fucking ears and fill your head with your fucking music! PAY ATTENTION.

I had another suddenly go swerving through an intersection right in front of me the other day. I had to slam on my brakes. He looked right at me as he did it. If I had been glancing anywhere else at that moment I might not have seen him and killed him as well. And he would have given me a really dirty look then! Another fucking DUMBASS.

When I do ride my bike here, I assume I'm invisible to everyone. And ride accordingly.

But (and this fits in with my expontentially growing misanthropism which has been overwhelming me lately) people are fucking stupid. In general. And getting stupider. Maybe it's the fumes.
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