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[Searcher08]

[American Dream]

antifa notes (june 6, 2015) : fascism consolidated
Posted on June 6, 2015 by @ndy

Zionists … I’m sick of hearing that coward word. Get some guts people and just say Jews, they are all Jews or Jewish servants. For thousands of years these Jews have been expelled and chased out of European Nations for the same shit. Napoleon and Hitler were the last to stand against them (please don’t reply to this comment with ‘muh holocaust’ bullshit, cause that is a load of crap too). I[‘]m fed up with all the tiptoe words like [I]lluminati and [Z]ionist … I’ve found that all these so-called ‘truth-seekers’ delve into free information until they hit the plateau of the real truth; that point at which they must admit that there is no [I]lluminati or [Z]ionist conspiracy, only a Jewish conspiracy. Very few people make it past that plateau, they are too pacifist and too egalitarian to accept the reality of the Jewish nature and so they become weird peace & love people who forever talk about the ‘universe’ because they failed to acknowledge the reality of racial dispositions of the Jews. There is no “new” conspiracy with an “[I]lluminati” or “Zionist” foundation, there is only Jews; the same old Jews from a thousand years ago practicing the same old shit, only now they are actually succeeding.

~ Blair Cottrell, leader of United Patriots Front (Melbourne)

Above: Leader of the Rise Up Australia Party, Danny Nalliah, chillin’ with the United Patriots Front leadership (Blair Cottrell on far right)

http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?p=38306

[Searcher08]

[Elvis]

Racism is a set of ideas that takes older prejudices, and systematically makes them into a worldview. Contrary to what most folk think, it emerged specifically in the modern world, as a way of explaining and understanding what was happening as global society began to rapidly change.

Racism is a modern development? What a joke. Who wrote that?

[seemslikeadream]

I think it was that well known, great deep thinker about stuff blogger Jack Ferguson

whoever the hell he is ...and why should we care?

[Searcher08]

Racism is a set of ideas that takes older prejudices, and systematically makes them into a worldview. Contrary to what most folk think, it emerged specifically in the modern world, as a way of explaining and understanding what was happening as global society began to rapidly change.

Racism is a modern development? What a joke. Who wrote that?

A blogger 'Jack the Socialist Cephalopod' from Scottish Socialist Youth who is into to writing long articles based on the Fallacy of Association, and has the same clarity as a cloud of octopus ink.

Short summary:

Debunking 'Something Different'

1 Demonstrate your own lack of understanding of SD
2 History of Anti-Semitism
3 History of anti-fascism and Settler Colonialism
4 More Anti-Semitism
5 Someone who knows someone who shagged someone who bought a sandwich at a store run by the mother of this guy I knew said they were virulent anti-Semites who used Sekrit code words
6 This above clearly and logically demonstrates my case, using Critical Thinking, innit
The End

[Wombaticus Rex]

Short summary:

Debunking 'Something Different'

1 Demonstrate your own lack of understanding of SD
2 History of Anti-Semitism
3 History of anti-fascism and Settler Colonialism
4 More Anti-Semitism
5 Someone who knows someone who shagged someone who bought a sandwich at a store run by the mother of this guy I knew said they were virulent anti-Semites who used Sekrit code words
6 This above clearly and logically demonstrates my case, using Critical Thinking, innit
The End

With each passing week, your commentary is becoming just as constructive and unpredictable as AD's contributions.

Maybe sharpen yourself on some harder surfaces for a change?

[seemslikeadream]

There were a few lovely weeks where AD stopped his oh so familiar rantings and all was right with the world.... then he starts up again and trashes/pisses on my thread. I was willing...eager...and oh so happy to be able to let it go...but he just won't/can't stop....and we are the ones to blame??? He is the problem here not me...not Searcher....tell AD to knock it off ..maybe sharpen his self on some other harder surfaces for a change...he knows not anything but one note

there was quite a few passing weeks when nothing was posted as a reply to AD until he started it all up again...

I even stopped posting in my Zionist thread so to not antagonized him

we had moved on....he is the one that is stuck...I was willing to ignore his threads and did so until he inserted himself trashing my thread

put the blame where it belongs we are not all equal in this

[Wombaticus Rex]

we had moved on....he is the one that is stuck...I was willing to ignore his threads and did so until he inserted himself trashing my thread

put the blame where it belongs we are not all equal in this

Oh, but we are all equal in this. No matter who or where we are, we all have the choice, every moment, to break behavioral loops exactly like this one.

As charitably as possible: "My actions are someone else's fault" is not how adult human beings account for themselves. We're all equal in this, too: we're all embedded in a culture full of infants who screech like that all day, everywhere we turn, so it starts to feel normal, rational. It is neither.

Look, I'm not ordering any of you to break the cycle. I'm just going to be consistently asking someone in this collaborative dance project to stop doing it if you really hate it so much.

That's a big "If," though.

[Searcher08]

we had moved on....he is the one that is stuck...I was willing to ignore his threads and did so until he inserted himself trashing my thread

put the blame where it belongs we are not all equal in this

Oh, but we are all equal in this. No matter who or where we are, we all have the choice, every moment, to break behavioral loops exactly like this one.

As charitably as possible: "My actions are someone else's fault" is not how adult human beings account for themselves. We're all equal in this, too: we're all embedded in a culture full of infants who screech like that all day, everywhere we turn, so it starts to feel normal, rational. It is neither.

Look, I'm not ordering any of you to break the cycle. I'm just going to be consistently asking someone in this collaborative dance project to stop doing it if you really hate it so much.

That's a big "If," though.

Your underlying metaphor is that of a dance, where there are two or more people responding collaboratively to each other's moves.

If I stand outside of the stage and see two people who are dancing on that stage, and one of the dancers is coming into the space of the others and shoving them off and some of the dancers complain - what happens?
Some options
1 Say that it is a poor performance to complain and if they don't like being shoved, they should just ignore it.
Strategy "Ignore the bully"
For me, this is like being told "Toughen up and shut up"
Result: It can last for a while, but for some bully's just doesn't work and is the wrong thing to do.

1a Attempt to communicate with the crashing dancer
Strategy "JawJaw is better than War war"
Result: Needs two to tango. Does not work when one party is boycotting communications and has stated no interest in said offline discussions.

2 Suspend the dancer who doesn't care they are disrupting the others
Strategy "Suspend"
Result: This works until they come back, then their behaviour resumes. Been tried here

3 See if the same disrupted dance happens when that dancer is not around
Strategy "Observe the system"
Result: No, the problem doesnt surface.
Happened earlier one this year. If this had been a *systemic* issue, then during this time, the same issue would probably have emerged from a different source. It didnt.

4 Ask the disruptive dancer to do his moves in a place where they can be both non-interrupted and / or not crash into others while they work if he is going to be doing stuff which will start taking a lot of space.
Strategy: Meet each 'actors' needs
Result: Dancer in question has stated not interested.
The rehearsal space is for everyone - The Commons, if you will. It isnt for ONE dancer, regardless of how important they think their own dance practice or piece is.
At RI it is called
"General Discussion" , not
"Every topic = One's personal Tumblr of non-discussed Copy Pasta strings of post n pix"

Because THAT is the DATA DUMP.

[Searcher08]

"SPENCER SUNSHINE" That's an interesting name. I wonder where Spencer hails from?

I also wonder how the poor guy's brain doesn't explode. In a recent essay he concerns himself with "Crypto-fascists and pro-White separatists," yet his first point is that "Anyone who actively promotes or endorses the idea of White separatism should be treated as a Far Right activist" and his second point is "Ideological antisemitism, Islamophobia, and other demonizations of minority groups—whether explicit or coded—should not be tolerated."

What about Israel? Is the promotion and endorsement of Jewish separatism in Israel any different to the white separatism he is so eager to condemn? Why don't the Israelis stop trying to take the rest of Palestine away from the Palestinians, and instead make a nation together with the Palestinians? Why does the real-world Jewish exclusivism in Israel not recieve the same condemnation from him that he insists should be applied to any instances of white separatist promotion?

See more at: http://www.politicalresearch.org/2015/0 ... NNHuA.dpuf

I think because the Antifafas (Anti-Fascist Fascists) are very keen indeed to keep discussion about Israel *away* from looking at whether Israel itself is drifting (or should that be hurtling towards) being a racist fascist state. That is a Big NoNo. Which is an intriguing thing.

Could it be connected to Spencer Sunshine's organisation being in receipt of grants from the New Israel Fund?

[tapitsbo]

where did I hear about the "no borders for Israel" meme?

(I've certainly heard often enough that NA and Europe should not have any)

[Searcher08]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Israel_Fund#BDS

NIF (New Israel Fund) is opposed to the global Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign.[32][33] It has stated that it does not support global BDS and will not support organizations with BDS programs but that its policy allows NIF the discretion to "engage in dialogue with an important organization that signs one letter supporting divestment rather than summarily dismissing them".[34] Naomi Paiss, Director of Communications, described the campaign as "a tactic that embodies the message that Israel cannot and will not change itself, and for that reason, we think it is inflammatory and counter-productive".[32] The NIF does not fund organizations with BDS programs, and removed the Coalition of Women for Peace from its list of authorized donor-advised organizations in early 2011, which led to a heated response by CWP.[35]

[American Dream]

Excerpted from: https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2 ... -semitism/

Dieudonné: Belgian Prosecutor Demands 6 Months Prison Sentence for Anti-Semitism.




France’s Answer to Bernard Manning.

#Dieudonné Six mois de prison requis pour antisémitisme contre Dieudonné, jugé en Belgique pour des propos tenus dans un spectacle.

Nouvel Observateur.


The prosecutor of the Liège Tribunal (Belgium) demanded on Wednesday six months in gaol against the controversial polemicist Dieudonné, accused of having made discriminatory and anti-semitic remarks during a show in the region in March 2012.

“The show was so full of defamatory and insulting remarks that it made one want to vomit.” said the prosecutor Damien Leboutte summing up his case – as cited by the Belgian press agency. The daily, le Soir, noted that amongst other comments he had described Adolf Hitler as a good-hearted braggart.

Dieudonné was also due to appear in Paris today to face charges of inciting race hatred, and racial insults. for parts of his last but one show, “La Bête immonde”, but. at the request of his lawyer, the trial has been postponed until the 24th of February 2016.

The ‘humourist’ did not attend the Liège hearing.

More: Belgique: Dieudonné risque six mois de prison ferme. Le Figaro.

Dieudonné is distinguished by his friendship with Jean-Marie Le Pen, and more durably, by his close link to Alain Soral, a far-right conspiracy theorist who claims – don’t they all? – to be “beyond left and right”. Needless to say, his warnings of a ‘global empire’ involves free-masons, and, you-know-who. He has, unsurprisingly for a self-proclaimed, ” judéophobe” a particular interest in the Shoah.

After the Charlie Hebdo and Hyper-Casher massacres, Dieudonné and Soral, were keen to announce that “Je ne suis pas Charlie”.

Alain Soral et Dieudonné à la journée “Je ne suis pas Charlie”

Note this well anglophones who also said, Je ne suis pas Charlie.

Here (on his own site) is a list of legal cases against Soral.

Liste des procès en cours impliquant Alain Soral et Égalité & Réconciliation

These are Dieudonné’s past tussles with the law.

On 14 June 2006, Dieudonné was sentenced to a penalty of €4,500 for defamation after having called a prominent Jewish television presenter a “secret donor of the child-murdering Israeli army”.[101]

On 15 November 2007, an appellate court sentenced him to a €5,000 fine because he had characterized “the Jews” as “slave traders” after being attacked in le Théâtre de la Main d’Or.[102]

On 26 June 2008, he was sentenced in the highest judicial instance to a €7,000 fine for his characterization of Holocaust commemorations as “memorial pornography”.[44]

On 27 February 2009, he was ordered to pay 75,000 Canadian dollars in Montreal to singer and actor Patrick Bruel for defamatory statements. He had called Bruel a “liar” and an “Israeli soldier”.[103]

On 26 March 2009, Dieudonné was fined €1,000 and ordered to pay €2,000 in damages for having defamed Elisabeth Schemla, a Jewish journalist who ran the now-defunct Proche-Orient.info website. He declared on 31 May 2005 that the website wanted to “eradicate Dieudonné from the audiovisual landscape” and had said of him that “he’s an anti-Semite, he’s the son of Hitler, he will exterminate everyone”.[104]

On 27 October 2009, he was sentenced to a fine of €10,000 for “public insult of people of Jewish faith or origin” related to his show with Robert Faurisson.[105]

On 8 June 2010, he was sentenced to a fine of €10,000 for defamation towards the International League against Racism and Anti-Semitism, which he had called “a mafia-like association that organizes censorship”.[106]

On 10 October 2012, he was fined €887,135 for tax evasion. According to the French revenue service, Dieudonné failed to pay part of his taxes from 1997 to 2009.[citation needed].

On 12 February 2014, he was ordered by a court to withdraw two clips from a video posted on YouTube on 31 December 2013 on the grounds of incitement to ethnic or racial hatred, and crimes against humanity denial.

This Blog is not in favour of prosecuting the racist anti-Semitic Dieudonné, for his “shows”, which you can watch on YouTube as often as you want.

He is about as funny as Bernard Manning.

That is not itself a criminal offence.

But we cannot say that we are greatly motivated to do much about protesting for his freedom from a Belgian gaol.

[AlicetheKurious]