Angry White People

[jakell]

Would the remedy for this selective attraction be something like "curing gays" through whatever form of behaviourist conditioning?

Once the expression of race-based attraction is considered taboo, then the next step might be to proscribe gender based attraction, or at least the expression of it.

Inwardly though, not much may change, just outward expressions due to what is presently considered acceptable.

The ONLY form of such exclusion that is socially acceptable around where I live is not being attracted to whites - whites often say this as a way to come across as virtuous.

I think polite society means something different where you live Luther.

[American Dream]

White people love talking about Racism by talking about... white people...

Racist violence- be it symbolic and/or more material- is something that they may condone, support, or participate in, but it is one of those ugly truths that are generally not supposed to be acknowledged in mixed company. As is manifest here.

[jakell]

....then species based



Race gets a mention too here, so it's on (the current) topic

[tapitsbo]

Bring on the ugly truths. The truther in me yearns for more. I would love to see discussion of symbolic violence.

[Searcher08]

White people love talking about Racism by talking about... white people...

Which white people?

Racist violence- be it symbolic and/or more material- is something that they may condone, support, or participate in, but it is one of those ugly truths that are generally not supposed to be acknowledged in mixed company. As is manifest here.

As someone who has had actual contact with racist violence myself as part of an interracial couple and just posted about it, your statement is demonstrably false. How much actual experience of racism have YOU had, AD?
In what ways are YOU a model for white privilege? Or is this just a concept you insist has reality for others and not you?

[jakell]

More to the point, where has the sudden mention of violence come from? Is it a monster from another thread?

[American Dream]

Yeah- this is a good example of what could be fairly called political organizing- but not at all to the credit of most concerned...

[Searcher08]

Yeah- this is a good example of what could be fairly called political organizing- but not at all to the credit of most concerned...

WHAT is a good example of political organising?? -
(your "this" is unspecified - it is unclear what it refers to)

Are you just wool-gathering to yourself? Can one actually have a two-way conversation, please? Because if you do not want that, why post here in General Discussion?

If you think a idea called White Privilege is important, why not illustrate it from your own experience?

[Joe Hillshoist]

More to the point, where has the sudden mention of violence come from? Is it a monster from another thread?

That is very funny.

[Joe Hillshoist]

White people love talking about Racism by talking about... white people...

Which white people?

Racist violence- be it symbolic and/or more material- is something that they may condone, support, or participate in, but it is one of those ugly truths that are generally not supposed to be acknowledged in mixed company. As is manifest here.

As someone who has had actual contact with racist violence myself as part of an interracial couple and just posted about it, your statement is demonstrably false. How much actual experience of racism have YOU had, AD?
In what ways are YOU a model for white privilege? Or is this just a concept you insist has reality for others and not you?

I don't think he is talking about you.

see this:

I sometimes wonder what the situation would have been if we had a Griffin-style BNP (or even a UKIP) instead of the NF in the seventies. They really contained the seeds of their own destruction, and thank God they went. Their style was a gift to their opposition.

That is jakell being glad some former leaders of the NF went away because they damaged the WN cause. he's not saying thank God they went because they were violent, racist thugs. He is saying "...thank God they went." The very next thing he says implies the reason he is happy they went is because of the damage they did to the white nationalist cause.

So he is not condemning racist violence cos its bad, he's doing it because it cost a dodgy political cause support and respectability.

[jakell]

Why are you misrepresenting me Joe? I've given no indication that I feel this way about things.

You previously said I had WN mates (which I refuted). Why the smearing?

[Joe Hillshoist]

Why are you misrepresenting me Joe? I've given no indication that I feel this way about things.

You previously said I had WN mates (which I refuted). Why the smearing?

Why are you writing in a manner that implies support for WN causes?

[jakell]

Why are you misrepresenting me Joe? I've given no indication that I feel this way about things.

You previously said I had WN mates (which I refuted). Why the smearing?

Why are you writing in a manner that implies support for WN causes?

I'm not. this is your imagination.

I went through all this with AD. Don't think I'm going to fall into the trap of falling into the defensive either, that is a huge waste of my time. You'll get a certain number of refutations and then I'll find a way of sidelining it.

[82_28]

We all have imaginations. That's why best policy is to talk shit out. Steer clear of offense. Look at us, all writing in English and I am only interjecting myself into this because everyone deserves a fair shake. Here's the miracle of it all:

The interjector (me) is in Seattle.

Another person is in Australia.

Another one is in North England.

Just appreciate the miracle that we can all converse from around the surface of this place we call home. None of this, in fact, needs to have been said. There is always a disagreement to be had but there is much we can always agree on.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Why are you misrepresenting me Joe? I've given no indication that I feel this way about things.

You previously said I had WN mates (which I refuted). Why the smearing?

Why are you writing in a manner that implies support for WN causes?

I'm not. this is your imagination.

I went through all this with AD. Don't think I'm going to fall into the trap of falling into the defensive either, that is a huge waste of my time. You'll get a certain number of refutations and then I'll find a way of sidelining it.

I don't think AD and I are the only people who get that impression.

Why not "sideline it" now? You know what we are talking about.

Just out of interest what are people sposed to think when you put this string of words together?

They really contained the seeds of their own destruction, and thank God they went. Their style was a gift to their opposition.

You do know why we structure language the way we do don't you?