Bet on Dem VP! (Switches to: "Spring 2020 Riots Thread")

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Who will be the actual Democratic candidate?

Sen. Harris
3
12%
Sen. Klobuchar
0
No votes
Sen. Warren
1
4%
Stacey Abrams
1
4%
Michelle Obama
4
16%
Secretary Clinton
4
16%
Gov. Whitmer
1
4%
Other VP candidate (click this and specify below)
3
12%
Brokered convention surprise: Other (click and specify)
3
12%
Rope-a-dope: Biden implodes, Sanders re-emerges
5
20%
 
Total votes : 25

Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 29, 2020 10:41 pm

Revising my assessment: this is a full blown domestic color revolution against a second Trump term. Watching how news channels and pundit operators handle this and talking points they have in common, this is way bigger than I thought. Gonna be a long summer. I would advise avoiding mass protests for awhile.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby liminalOyster » Sat May 30, 2020 12:45 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 29, 2020 10:41 pm wrote:Revising my assessment: this is a full blown domestic color revolution against a second Trump term. Watching how news channels and pundit operators handle this and talking points they have in common, this is way bigger than I thought. Gonna be a long summer. I would advise avoiding mass protests for awhile.


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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Grizzly » Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 am


With more info there are more questions. Why is media and Gov only give small bits of info? Where is arrest history of suspect, where is discipline history of Officer, why no 911 calls info or full body cam info? Maybe it will come later but this new video shows some interesting things.


Interesting insight but another vid from a different angle shows more but this is a good analysis from a ex cops(?) perspective.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat May 30, 2020 2:50 am

This evening Governor Walz gave a serious, heartfelt briefing and then Mayor Frey came out and gave a campaign speech. The contrast was amazing. Some notable excerpts from what Walz said: "We cannot arrest people due to the sheer size and scale of this violence" ... "there's already shots being fired back at our people" ... "the terrifying thing is, this resembles more of a military operation we're up against, with ringleaders moving their forces into place" ... says the focus is on "protecting life, followed by protecting property, followed by restoring order" ... "they're stopping semis by blocking roads, then raiding them. this is not about George Floyd"... "they are well-coordinated and they will do everything possible to cause more destruction"

Hopefully there is a transcript tomorrow, I'm sure I borked a lot of that.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat May 30, 2020 11:32 am

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Eat the rich is an abbreviation of a saying attributed to Jean-Jacques Rousseau: “When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they'll eat the rich”. 'Eating the rich' happens, literally, when the Masters or the Landlords are very stingy, grumpy, and inhumane to their servants.



Minnesota Governor Tim Walz summed-up the current chaos erupting nationwide perfectly:

"This is absolutely no longer about George Floyd or addressing inequities anymore. This is an organized attack designed to destabilize civil society."

Protests raged overnight in dozens of U.S. cities, including Minneapolis, Washington, D.C., New York City, Atlanta, Houston, and several large metro areas on the West Coast.

Protests or social unrest was seen in these major metros on Friday night:

Houston & Fort Worth, TX
NYC
Chicago, IL
Atlanta, GA
Washington D.C.
Detroit, MI
Fort Wayne, IN
Kansas City, MO
Des Moines, IA
Vegas, NV
Charlotte, NC
San Jose, CA
Boston, MA
Memphis, TN
Columbus, OH
Denver, CO
Cincinnati, OH
Portland, ME
Louisville, KY

Starting in Minneapolis, where unrest continued into the fourth night following the death of George Floyd, a man who was killed by Minneapolis Police on Monday, had Minnesota National Guard Adjutant General Jon Jensen and Governor Tim Walz announce the request for 1,000 more soldiers from the National Guard as widespread rioting and looting continued.

"This is the largest civilian deployment in Minnesota history that we have out there today, and quite candidly right now, we do not have the numbers," Walz said Saturday morning." We cannot arrest people when we are trying to hold ground because of the sheer size, the dynamics, and wanton violence."

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Agent provocateurs and other environmental conditions (organic and/or staged) offering an outlet for many to express underlying lockdown rage.

Humans can be quite predictable and programmable under certain conditions, as they know all too well.

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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby stickdog99 » Sat May 30, 2020 1:35 pm

Belligerent Savant » 30 May 2020 01:40 wrote:.

And now, a word from our (still in beta) AI representative:


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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby stickdog99 » Sat May 30, 2020 1:53 pm

If what the governor on MN is saying is true, my guess is that the whole event was staged and the "rebellion" was pre-planned and fomented by the same players who staged the event.

Remember Jeffrey Epstein? He "killed himself" less than 10 months ago. Since what should have been the biggest journalistic story in at lest the last 15 years, we have been treated to a flurry of events that make 9/11 look like child's play.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat May 30, 2020 2:09 pm

stickdog99 » Sat May 30, 2020 12:53 pm wrote:If what the governor on MN is saying is true, my guess is that the whole event was staged and the "rebellion" was pre-planned and fomented by the same players who staged the event.

Remember Jeffrey Epstein? He "killed himself" less than 10 months ago. Since what should have been the biggest journalistic story in at lest the last 15 years, we have been treated to a flurry of events that make 9/11 look like child's play.


I got two quibbles. One, whole events are rarely staged. Even behind The Blind, you need real raw material to do effective School Plays, if you get my drift. The anger is very real here. As we've mentioned in the nCoV thread many times over, it's not so much that there was a guild table with a secret Coronavirus Plan ready to go; it's just that major players are always incentivized to take advantage of a crisis in the same set ways -- they do what works. Stigmergy more than conspiracy.

(Which is not to diminish the role of conspiracy, of course, any operation is a conspiracy. But as observers from the outside, we're generally too quick to see overall trends as singular conspiracies when it's generally more like a couple thousand of 'em, overlapping, conflicting, interpenetrating, collapsing.)

I also don't see much of a thread from Epstein to the present clusterfuck. Frankly, if ol' Jeffrey could have waited things out a little longer, he could have avoided the rigmarole of being a subject of media scrutiny at all, much less having to pull a Robert Maxwell and fake his own death. He could have just slunk off into the wall of noise.

Even the most effective players in the "Controlling The World" game are hanging on to a vertical rock wall by their bloody fingertips. The real world is howling chaos, and while they often use that effectively, they also spend just as much time being slammed by those same tides and having to constantly adapt to changing circumstances and operational failures. It's a multi-polar system and even the individual teams we've often delineated here are composed of rival factions and run by cut-throat assholes who would fuck the next man up the pyramid in a heartbeat -- and indeed, many of those cultures actively encourage this as a Darwinian quality control scheme.

I don't think that covering up mutual blackmail networks between CIA and Mossad was important enough to burn down the global economy. The awful reality is, most people just don't fucking care. Just like most people who got worked up about that story already believed those networks were there.

Insert McLuhan quote about public incredulity. Cheers.
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Grizzly » Sat May 30, 2020 2:19 pm

We all know this is the Obomber CIA deepstate democrats doing this shit.... they’ve been caught lying about Flynn, and spying on Trump before he ever took office. But Rex is right, it's probably way deeper than merely that...
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My guess is every fusion centre in the country is working this...
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby thrulookingglass » Sat May 30, 2020 4:03 pm

Has RI become an Alt-right hang out?!
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby JackRiddler » Sat May 30, 2020 6:38 pm

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It's bad enough that coppers shoot them and choke them to death, but then, when they finally revolt, black people also have to hear that it's actually Soros or the "outside agitators" who are running their show.

What were the uprisings of 1965-69, or 1992, or just a few years ago in Ferguson and Baltimore? Just more color revolutions, eh? Of course, not in the earlier cases. Back then it was the COMMIES! THE REDS! (On this, WRex, you have remained consistent -- still drawing a kind of continuity to the imagined commie threat of then.)

Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 29, 2020 9:41 pm wrote:Revising my assessment: this is a full blown domestic color revolution against a second Trump term. Watching how news channels and pundit operators handle this and talking points they have in common, this is way bigger than I thought. Gonna be a long summer. I would advise avoiding mass protests for awhile.


Yes, bullseye on #9!
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And a couple of the posts upthread even name "Obama" and "CIA" as the originators of the #BLM protests. Poor Obama, he adopts Reagan as his father, he called the 2015 rioters "thugs" also, but he STILL gets blamed for it. I guess that's his real function in this?

But WRex! I guess you can accept that Wall Street actors don't need a central plan, since it's all kind of obvious what to do when they are handed a situation.

Why don't you grant the same autonomy to kids in the neighborhood?

No, apparently, I'm being told even the ROCKS get shipped in!

(By contrast, I am sad that I was too lazy and detached and missed last night's Brooklyn protest. I did get to hear the helicopter overhead. For hours.)

Anyway, it's not like we haven't had outbreaks of this kind of reactionary shit on RI before. After all, it's as American as...

A big one came with the first anti-Trump protests, and that's already four years ago, plus.

Fancy that, he runs around promising to build a wall against the Mexicans who are rapists and drug dealers, and he becomes the actual front-runner for the fucking presidency, and then Mexicans in Chicago (and students, and black people) organize a protest when he shows up there... and a bunch of our brilliant RI analysts decided that had to be SOROS. Color Revolution!

Because what else could it be, right?

Personally, I think this next guy's as sharp as he ever was, and he hasn't changed. Although, in this case, he lets others talk for him...

Mr. Jeff Wells on the Site We Do Not Name wrote:
Goy Division/Jew Order on Twitter wrote:Liberals are turning on the protests because they’re realizing they aren’t designed to help elect Joe Biden but to destroy a system Joe Biden helped build.

"Protests break out.
Liberals: Yes! Also, vote!
Protestors: voting won’t stop cops from killing us.
Liberals: these are actually outside agitators."


Ben Dixon wrote:The police are literally the outside agitators.
https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/stat ... 6372143105




Meanwhile, here's some unhinged exterminationist rhetoric about the people in the neighborhood as a foreign entity at total war with a besieged "civil society" of cops and national guard.

These words are, I am being told, very reasonable! "Serious, heartfelt."



https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/0 ... since-ww2/

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MN governor mobilizes full National Guard over rioting for first time since WW2
The Minneapolis Third Police Precinct is set on fire during a third night of protests following the death of George Floyd while in Minneapolis police custody, on Thursday, May 28, 2020. (Carlos Gonzalez/Minneapolis Star Tribune/TNS)
MAY 30, 2020 RYAN MORGAN

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz has fully mobilized the state’s National Guard units to respond to ongoing rioting following the death of George Floyd in police custody.

The planned deployment would be the first full mobilization of the state’s guard since World War II. Minn. Nat Guard Adjutant Gen. Jon Jensen said about 1,000 guardsmen are ready to deploy and there would be about 1,700 by Saturday afternoon. The full Minnesota National Guard consists of more than 13,000 members, according to the Guard’s 2019 annual report.

Walz said the National Guard deployment would be the largest in the state’s history. One previously sizeable deployment the state had was during the 1960 race riots, and Walz said the new deployment would be three times larger.

“We built this state. We built the North Star. Everything that we believe in, these people are trying to destroy,” Walz said.


Who built the seven gates of Thebes, motherfucker? Fuck you.

“Our great cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul are under assault,” Walz said. “The situation in in Minneapolis is now about attacking civil society, instilling fear and disrupting our great city.”

On Thursday, Walz had deployed 500 Guardsmen, and another 200 on Friday night. Still, the deployment and the 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew implemented in Minneapolis was not enough to quell the violent demonstrations, which persisted and continued to destroy buildings and vehicles.

Walz said officials had previously underestimated the size of the protests, which he noted have appeared to swell due to out of state individuals participating. Walz said approximately 80 percent of protesters were thought to be out-of-state residents, while only 20 percent were estimated to be Minnesota residents.


People in solidarity with a community finally defending itself? NO, OUTSIDE AGITATORS! 1919 says hello!

“I will take responsibility for underestimating the wanton destruction and size of this crowd,” Walz said. “There’s simply more of them than us.”

“The militarization of civilian population is a deep concern,” Walz said. “If you are on the street tonight, it is very clear: you are not with us. You do not share our values. And we will use the full strength of goodness and righteousness to make sure that this ends.”


A tweet from the Minnesota National Guard on Saturday confirmed they would indeed be mobilizing — and were “all in” to do so.

MN National Guard

@MNNationalGuard
Minnesota @GovTimWalz has announced the full mobilization of the @MNNationalGuard for the first time since World War II. We are "all-in" to restore order and maintain and keep the peace in Minnesota.

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607 people are talking about this
“More than 1,000 additional Citizen-Soldiers and Airmen are activating today. This is in addition to the 700 that were on duty as of late last night. This represents the largest domestic deployment in the Minnesota’s National Guard’s 164-year history,” another tweet from the Guard said.

MN National Guard

@MNNationalGuard
More than 1,000 additional Citizen-Soldiers and Airmen are activating today. This is in addition to the 700 that were on duty as of late last night. This represents the largest domestic deployment in the Minnesota’s National Guard’s 164-year history.

Protests erupted in cities across the country on Friday night, including New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Phoenix, Denver, cities in California, and more. Those protests were condemned by city and state leaders, as well as from President Trump.






You're older now, you don't have that excuse.


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You'd think, sometimes, but not yet!

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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat May 30, 2020 6:43 pm

Color Revolutions: Massive, persistent street protest actions used to overthrow authoritarian leaders with CIA coordination via back channels, on the ground managers and media assets. It ain't that much of a stretch.

CNN assets saying today the rioting was "white nationalists," which is pretty funny considering there are thousands of hours of footage from dozens of cities. Tonight will be very interesting, most of the big organized protests were planned for today, Friday night was very organic stuff.

Again, just because the anger and the numbers are real doesn't mean they can't be easily manipulated by people with decades of training doing exactly that, who have funding to do exactly that. And just because the anger and the numbers are being manipulated doesn't mean "it's all an op."
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby dada » Sat May 30, 2020 7:13 pm

Don't forget about organized crime. How's business been?

I mean, don't forget to factor that into your analysis of current events. I don't know nothing about nothing. Just sayin'.
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Postby semper occultus » Sat May 30, 2020 7:14 pm

wasn't it Michael Ruppert who claimed the CIA wanted to recruit him to work as an agent inside the LAPD ?
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Re: Bet on Dem VP! (becomes: "The Minneapolis 2020 Thread")

Postby Grizzly » Sat May 30, 2020 7:17 pm


Rapper Killer Mike addresses demonstrators - News


Killer Mike and T.I. make the case for protecting Atlanta

The above vid, edited out the part where Mike took CNN to task over stoking “fear and anger”.
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