Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[barracuda]

Barracuda knows that as far as I know him, which is through here, that I love him.

Right back atcha, brohamster. The place wouldn't be the same without cha, that's for sure.

Adam Lanza and his mother lived on Yogonanda Street. Could he have been set off by some kind of "negative tulpa"? Or a tulpa that crossed wires with technology and was then misinterpreted? Reports say he was a smart kid and all kinds of books about how to get happy and reclaim his life, yet played violent FPS's . Say he lived on W. 85th Street could it have prevented the massacre? Could he have researched the meaning of the name of the street he lived on and taken it a way it was intended but only his interpretation?

Gotta admit, I kinda tripped out the first time I saw that street name.

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[justdrew]

article title for someone:
The Intersection of Yogonanda Street and Sandalwood Drive

[Iamwhomiam]

WTF, 82? I wrote one line directed to you, "Sorry you missed the earlier commentary about the camo-wearing dad, 82." And you go off on me? WTF? No snark on my part.

The article was complete bs, way beyond speculation to fantasy. Speculate away.

[82_28]

My true and very dear friend, I promise it was not as you are currently taking it. I used your comment as a counterpoint to some shit I felt I was getting from barracuda and commenting upon that very object. Problem was, was that I was speculating in the way I do. Has nothing to do with what you said or who you are or how I know you as.

[82_28]

And for good measure. Right back atcha allz. Seriously, iamwhiam, I think you just took that wrong. You didn't make a "mistake" at all.

[Iamwhomiam]

Thanks for your clarification, but regarding this, "There's no harm in speculation, ever." I would say "Yes, sometimes there is." We saw here one poster's speculation unnecessarily put an innocent at risk.

Speculation is fine and often necessary, but it's always best to do your speculation after all that's possible to learn has been gathered and examined. Jumping the gun helps no one when one's speculation has no basis. Like I said before, the contradictory reporting throughout the day would have made anyone think, WTF?

[82_28]

How can anything get investigated, gathered and examined if it is not first speculated on? The basis was in what I wrote and I explained somewhat sheepishly. Very true, I am not the 1st person investigator. Nor are any of us. However, approaching this case and its far reaching ramifications necessitates curiosity. I would also say that of course, speculation is always acceptable. Especially amongst friends that know your heart identifies with. Again, what I said stands as far as I am concerned. Iamwhoiam, know I love you, homie. Yogonanda street is strange. There aren't two ways about it when it comes to strange.

[Iamwhomiam]

I respect all here, even those I disagree with. Doesn't mean I'd want to hang out with all, tho.

I really don't write well and that limits my expression, but I think you know what I meant and know the incident that prompted me to say one's speculation put an innocent most unfairly in harms way, tying them to a mass murder they were uninvolved with. As I said, speculate away, but post your speculations with care not to expectorate upon the character of another.

First you need an incident that hopefully produces some evidence, then you can speculate about why it occurred.

I'd speculate privately, gather supporting evidence and only then would I present my fact based theory.

To cut to the chase: I think anyone who feels this was a conspiracy by our government to foster gun control or confiscation is fairly insane. Solely because it seems the only parties that have most definitely benefited is the firearms industry. Smith & Wesson is up 212% over last years superb earnings. Ruger is in line for record earnings, too.

But that doesn't mean the government is incapable of developing such a scenario for their arcane purpose.

Indeed, Yogananda Street is one of the most bizarre street names I ever encountered.

[82_28]

Iamwhoiam, I fully see where you are coming from. Yet, facts, are they not, borne out of speculation and the gathering of speculations which get enhanced by added intuition? If you are not free to speculate, then are you not free to be fully human? There are no rules to speculation, there is only common courtesy. You go with it as child jumping off the diving board when learning to swim. I ain't no swim teacher or life guard. But I feel comfortable in using that analysis insofar as how I felt at a certain time in life. I had to either be coaxed into being more scared or feeling safe. It was a bit of the both. I could say those assholes that made me jump into water when I was 6 were child abusers. I could also say the angelic teachers, with patience, taught me how to swim regardless of how scared I was.

[lupercal]

We saw here one poster's speculation unnecessarily put an innocent at risk.

Bullshit. You've been repeatedly shown to be wrong on this fib and yet you still repeat it. In fact I created an entire thread for you to demonstrate your idiotic and libelous claim, and the best you could offer was a wikipedia link to cyberstalking which has zip to do with zip. You're welcome to your delusions but leave me the hell out of them, thanks. And as for trusting you or any of your claims, I no longer do.

link to your personal Waterloo : viewtopic.php?f=37&t=36001

[lupercal]

NRA: No ‘Member Relationship’ With Adam Or Nancy Lanza
Pema Levy 1:22 PM EDT, Thursday March 28, 2013

The National Rifle Association on Thursday denied any "member relationship" with Adam Lanza or his mother, Nancy Lanza, after police documents released Thursday revealed that NRA materials were found at the Lanza home.

"There is no record of a member relationship between Newtown killer Adam Lanza, nor between Nancy Lanza, A. Lanza or N. Lanza with the National Rifle Association," the NRA said in a statement. "Reporting to the contrary is reckless, false and defamatory."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/e ... ancy-lanza

This seems to be a response to a lengthy NYT piece reporting loads and loads of conspicuous NRA materials distributed Koran-style in the Lanza's house:

Newtown Killer’s Obsessions, in Chilling Detail
By N. R. KLEINFIELD, RAY RIVERA and SERGE F. KOVALESKI
Published: March 28, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/nyreg ... =all&_r=2&

From the NYT article:

A Newtown rabbi who counseled the families of victims of the shooting said former classmates of Mr. Lanza had told him that Mr. Lanza was sometimes the object of ridicule in high school. Other classmates have said they did not recall instances of his being bullied.

Strange that they would a) interview a rabbi who evidently never laid eyes on Adam Lanza b) include his claim to have heard a rumor and c) not identify him or her.

[barracuda]

This seems to be a response to a lengthy NYT piece reporting loads and loads of conspicuous NRA materials distributed Koran-style in the Lanza's house:

Re: loads and loads - there were two pieces of NRA ephemera listed in the warrant, a training certificate of some sort bearing Adam Lanza's name, and a pamphlet, The NRA Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting. I'm not sure that qualifies as "loads".

The NRA was lightning-quick to distance themselves from the Lanzas, yeah. Can't say I blame them. But don't many people who own five or six guns eventually have some sort of interaction with the NRA? I'd say that's a good thing, in general. I don't like their politics, or their response to these types of gun-centric killings, but at least they offer services surrounding issues of training and responsible ownership. Somebody's got to, considering the one-billion guns floating around this country.


Looks like a nice shot of Adam and Nancy sharing a beer at the range.

[FourthBase]

We saw here one poster's speculation unnecessarily put an innocent at risk.

Bullshit. You've been repeatedly shown to be wrong on this fib and yet you still repeat it. In fact I created an entire thread for you to demonstrate your idiotic and libelous claim, and the best you could offer was a wikipedia link to cyberstalking which has zip to do with zip. You're welcome to your delusions but leave me the hell out of them, thanks. And as for trusting you or any of your claims, I no longer do.

link to your personal Waterloo : viewtopic.php?f=37&t=36001

And what, exactly, is that supposed to mean?

Depending on the answer, you might be the first person here I ever use the ignore function on.
Which would be a shame. So, I hope you don't mean what I fear you mean.

[lupercal]

From the NYT, with an apparent update acknowledging the NRA statement:

The police also found a certificate from the National Rifle Association bearing the name Adam Lanza. The type of certificate was not clear. The organization said on Thursday that Adam Lanza and Nancy Lanza were not members.

The NRA says none of the Lanzas are in its databases, yet the police claim to have found all this incriminating NRA stuff, including a certificate from the NRA, so evidently somebody's lying. Based on what I've seen so far, it's the police, because I have yet to see reasonable evidence that Adam Lanza a) was on the premises of the Sandy Hook shooting, b) ever fired a gun anywhere, or c) was even alive at the time of the shooting.

[barracuda]

The Lanzas probably wouldn't be databased if they simply took certification courses. And the NRA has NEVER published a membership list, so we have to take their word on all this. Are they trustworthy? Hardly.

Based on what I've seen so far, it's the police, because I have yet to see reasonable evidence that Adam Lanza a) was on the premises of the Sandy Hook shooting, b) ever fired a gun anywhere, or c) was even alive at the time of the shooting.

What kind of evidence do you require at this point? Just wondering.