Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

[JackRiddler]

Previews of coming releases are bullshit or if you prefer shit-stirring until proven otherwise. In fact, previews of coming releases are practically an admission it's a wish, not a reality.

Also, who at this point is "Anonymous"? A few have been arrested, and we never bother to track that. What are the odds the original collective is still at it?

[seemslikeadream]

Wouldn't it be ironic if it's the "liberal/progressive" choice that leads us to World War 3, and not the buffoonish 80's tv celebrity?

He is a fucking racist pedophile misogynistic women groping asshole who wanders into a teenage girls dressing room to look at naked children...not a silly buffoonish 80's tv star...and if he wasn't running for president against Clinton he would have been raked over the coals here in the pedophile thread but now he gets a pass as just a silly celebrity cause everyone hates Clinton .....so Clinton hate trumps a fucking child molester/rapist/misogynistic/rampant xenophobe

women and children would beg to differ with you


Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.

Lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of raping 13-year-old girl gets December hearing

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2828413

All of Donald Trump’s Accusers: A Timeline of Every Alleged Grope and Assault

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... sault.html


Trump leered at underage girls in dressing room, teen beauty queens say

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/10/trum ... ueens-say/

Postby 82_28 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:50 am
Most of Jeff's posts to FB atm are about the US election if you're not following him. Many of our Canadian brethren are just as into this as we are. Don't want to be, but we've been forced into this.

[Harvey]

SLAD, I understood that you don't like Trump but I've yet to encounter an ardent admirer at RI.

It's clear that Trump will not be the next president. If you temporarily refused to discuss Clinton in terms of her track record and her stated intentions in order to propagandise for her as a brake upon Trump, the necessity for that lesser evil argument is over. There are other options which can and should be explored, precisely because MSM never will. You must do what you think is right. Spamming other threads with Trump isn't.

[Searcher08]

SLAD, I understood that you don't like Trump but I've yet to encounter an ardent admirer at RI.

It's clear that Trump will not be the next president. If you temporarily refused to discuss Clinton in terms of her track record and her stated intentions in order to propagandise for her as a brake upon Trump, the necessity for that lesser evil argument is over. There are other options which can and should be explored, precisely because MSM never will. You must do what you think is right. Spamming other threads with Trump isn't.

There is an old Yiddish saying that if you absolutely MUST choose between two courses of action and have to choose A or B
then always choose the third option.

Screw the binary "A or B" BS

[Novem5er]

If Bill Clinton flew, at least 11 times without Secret Service on Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express plane to his island, ya know theres gotta be video of him. Even if Bill didnt partake in any schtooping.

I get the sense some of the hackers are America. I'm guessing those who hacked into John Podesta's current email and twitter account were American 4chan users.

Oh, I'm sure that Bill Clinton was up to no good, and there probably IS video of him somewhere. If a sex video of Bill Clinton came out right now, then I think the planet would explode. The system can't handle it. We are at maximum scandal, right now. Somewhere in engineering, Scottie is yelling through the comms that she canna' take any more, Captain!

That said, I'd love to see us push past Warp 9 and really see what this baby can do.

And I'm not buying the whole Russian Hackers thing, either. When you read all these official press releases, everything is "we believe", etc, etc. No evidence provided. This is completely irresponsible of the Obama administration. Since when is it proper to outright accuse a foreign power of attacking your political process without showing any evidence, and without going to the UN for a resolution? It's bullshit and it's amping up the conflict with Russia.

[kool maudit]

Green party presidential candidate Jill Stein: Donald Trump is less scary on foreign wars, because he wants to work with Russia.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... r_war.html

[Luther Blissett]

It all depends upon what others have given them. Unless you're extremely in the know it's impossible to tell what's been collected by whom and where it is.

I think those in possession of Trump leaks are probably much less afeared of the traditional mainstream institutional means of releasing information. Any media outfit would be thrilled for anything salacious. Not so with Clinton. The Fourth Estate is there to protect the imperialist candidate and any dissension from the left is met with hostility. (begrugingly I guess "dissension" from "the right" might be treated the same way but we all know who those types would be and what their motivations are) Wikileaks is supposed to be for dissident whistleblowers, not those with the backing of so much Western power and Wall Street money.

I'm all for continuing to embarrass the Trump campaign.

Let's say you got someone prominent within your target's campaign's business email addresses from one of her numerous DC gigs and posed as someone she might be tangentially associated with through a new gmail account. Hypothetically let's say you wrote, for instance, a small snippet of PHP code that runs a script to gather keystrokes, or, maybe, resets a password. Hypothetically maybe you embed the executable script in an old filetype that behaves like an image, or embed it directly into a PDF of a Wall Street Journal or other sympathetic conservative media outlet and deliver it to her. Or perhaps hypothetically maybe you would be inclined or motivated to just straight up phish her with something realistic-looking. English is your first language and you are crafty.

Skip forward a couple steps. I can assure you that you can feel safe enough to pass them on to the Washington Post and everyone involved will protect your anonymity.

Where is this left? Or even moderate left anymore? All I see at this point across social media is now an iron lockstep 1984 agenda between once pro Bernie left leaning news, mainstream media, the Bernie Left, the neocons,
and now the Republicans to blackout anything negative about the Clinton campaign. Outside of Drudge, Fox News and Breitbart, theres not a peep on the massive wikileaks unfolding. Not even the leftist sites that used to always love Wikileaks. Not even from the Bernie left who spent a year bashing Clinton. Now that we have an endless tsunami of stuff the Bernie people only wish had been released in the primaries...tumbleweeds.

Nothing but 24 hour celebrity sex stuff with Trump. Im looking the noise coming from Russia, US foreign policy experts...it ain't good. A number of even mainstream media reports like CNN illustrating
how we're hurtling toward a hot war with Russia. Which I'm sure is what Hillary and her Bush neocon PNAC backers cannot wait for in their apocalyptic vision

I'm surrounded in a lot of it. Being a part of a large and reliable socialist organization with members who are extremely active, vocal, and quite radical on social media helps. Being active in the Green party and surrounding myself with those voices helps. The collective "Solidarity" is our local expression of black lives matter activists and they are reliably way to the left of Clinton, strengthened by the fact that this organization is made up mostly of women of color. That helps. Black Lives Matter in general helps. Having a lot of anarchist connections helps. Reading Michelle Alexander helps. Reading publications like Jacobin, Left Voice, and the Intercept helps. Following what's happening at Standing Rock helps. Living in the neighborhood in which I do helps (though there are some Clinton signs up).

The most current project I'm organized in involves another round of fighting slumlords and is a firmly leftist group whether they are black, white, Asian, or Latinx.

Don't forget that we were the site of the DNC protests which contained a lot of swirling factions - a broad coalition of different socialist organizations from all over the country, black lives matter, the indigenous protestors along with Laura Cáceres, old hippies, naive Bernie supporters who had a lot of passion but were clearly new to street-level organizing or politics in general, anarchists, etc. But the residual effects of that experience carry on and a lot of that group is still in conversation.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Previews of coming releases are bullshit or if you prefer shit-stirring until proven otherwise. In fact, previews of coming releases are practically an admission it's a wish, not a reality.

Also, who at this point is "Anonymous"? A few have been arrested, and we never bother to track that. What are the odds the original collective is still at it?

Really stretches credulity to accept that a video of a US president engaged in rape was 1) accessible to hackers of any skill level, and 2) existed on a server anywhere to begin with.

You put shit like that in a safe. In a locked room. In a locked floor of a locked building.

On an island.

[Harvey]

Previews of coming releases are bullshit or if you prefer shit-stirring until proven otherwise. In fact, previews of coming releases are practically an admission it's a wish, not a reality.

Also, who at this point is "Anonymous"? A few have been arrested, and we never bother to track that. What are the odds the original collective is still at it?

Really stretches credulity to accept that a video of a US president engaged in rape was 1) accessible to hackers of any skill level, and 2) existed on a server anywhere to begin with.

You put shit like that in a safe. In a locked room. In a locked floor of a locked building.

On an island.

I wondered how much blackmail material was in those safety deposit boxes emptied during the Hatton Garden Heist.

[Wombaticus Rex]

I wondered how much blackmail material was in those safety deposit boxes emptied during the Hatton Garden Heist.

I was quite excited by that news; and quite disappointed no Savile or Prince Andrew or Cyril leaks as a result.

Presumably the culprits were professionals, though, not activists. All spoils are fungible.

[8bitagent]

A lot of my closer Sanders supporters friends have even awoken to the fact that there's a total media blackout on the Wikileaks thing and anything that may harm Clinton's
national spotlight. The media is in collusion with both the Clintons, the alternative left media(Huffpo, Daily Beast, Daily Kos, ect)
and the neocon powers that be to silence any of the Wikileaks stuff coming forward. And to silence any talk of Bill Clinton's sexual predatory past.

I feel it cannot be understated that the left has become the very thing they were against: the Bush idiots. The people who didnt care Bush rigged the 2000 election, is a war monger, in bed with
wall street and globalist interests and above the law. Such a surreal time.

[8bitagent]

If Bill Clinton flew, at least 11 times without Secret Service on Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express plane to his island, ya know theres gotta be video of him. Even if Bill didnt partake in any schtooping.

I get the sense some of the hackers are America. I'm guessing those who hacked into John Podesta's current email and twitter account were American 4chan users.

That said, I'd love to see us push past Warp 9 and really see what this baby can do.

And I'm not buying the whole Russian Hackers thing, either. When you read all these official press releases, everything is "we believe", etc, etc. No evidence provided. This is completely irresponsible of the Obama administration. Since when is it proper to outright accuse a foreign power of attacking your political process without showing any evidence, and without going to the UN for a resolution? It's bullshit and it's amping up the conflict with Russia.

Hell yes. I am absolutely all for the absolute shit hitting the fan politically.

And personally, I dont care if Putin himself hacked the DNC and Hillary. Clinton shills saying dont read whats in there, its all illegal Russian hacking is like the New York Times saying
they cant substantiate or report on Ellsberg's Pentagon Papers, since it was stolen illegally

Look at how the left has thrown Assange and Manning under the bus, along with core ideals they were against in fighting the Bush administration

[Wombaticus Rex]

I feel it cannot be understated that the left has become the very thing they were against: the Bush idiots. The people who didnt care Bush rigged the 2000 election, is a war monger, in bed with
wall street and globalist interests and above the law. Such a surreal time.

The Clintons have always been Bush employees, though. I think this is a very specific issue, not something "the left" is doing.

Bear in mind, this comes from, perhaps, RI's most egregious abuser of generalizations.

[dada]

Why isn't Obama despised as much as Clinton? He sold out the left. He drops mad bombs. Bailed out his buddies. Lets the cops run wild. Gets along famously with the Bush gang. Maybe it's because he's a family man.

Not that it matters. I always picture a bunch of social engineer perception managers under a mountain in Virginia or something, watching the free expression powerlessness of the internet crowd, laughing about how easy their job has become.

[Novem5er]

Well, it's certainly the Media Left acting on behalf of the Clintons, who have acted on the behalf of the Bush's. Much of the Left on the ground level are following the media, mostly I think out of fear of Trump and some semblance of party loyalty. What really is "the left" anymore? I'd say it's as equally fractured as the right is, but I also think they're more easily cowed than the right, and most of them are going to support Hillary just to keep Trump away from the White House.

What do I know, really, though?

Back to what 8bitagent was saying about Russia and the hacks, though. It's ridiculous what the White House and Dems are trying to feed us, but the media doesn't even blink. Don't pay attention to the emails that make us look bad because our enemies are trying to make us look bad! I can't believe grown people nod their heads at that logic and parrot it back to others around them.

As a teacher, if one of my "bad" kids came forward with information that showed one of my "good" students doing something wrong, I couldn't ethically ignore that evidence because it came from a kid I don't like. This is just basic professional ethics and I'm tired of school teachers having higher standards of conduct than our goddamn presidents!