Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[KUAN]

I find it impossible to follow a thread this long but the subject itself I find fascinating. It was Jeff's succinct writing on such things that brought me to R.I. in the first place. Does anyone know if there is an article somewhere on the net that has distilled the various surmises?

P.S. I read lots of books tho

[barracuda]

Does anyone know if there is an article somewhere on the net that has distilled the various surmises?

It depends upon exactly what you want. Do you like theories about US government staging false flags to take away your guns? Do you enjoy reading about Mossad death squads? Do you like crisis actors? Do you want to know more about photo/video fakery and how the whole thing was shot in front of green screens? How 'bout FEMA drills? Do you prefer the "two shooters" theory, or the "no one died" theory? Do you like the idea that the shooting never happened at all, or that it happened but only a little bit?

There's something for everyone. But you could start by reading the wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook ... y_theories

And then move on to James Tracy, if you wanna go full retard:

http://memoryholeblog.com/2012/12/24/th ... formation/

...though even he doesn't cover it all. I guess there's no way around a lot of reading. You might as well just power through the thread, click every link, and I'll see ya in a month or so.



Graphic of Adam Lanza's Arsenal.

^^I'd have to say that looks an awful lot like a graphic of Nancy Lanza's arsenal.

[conniption]

Or you can try Insanemedia for shits and giggles...

Insanemedia

Forum Shill gets Busted: ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks

A Forum Shill gets busted. Something very interesting happened over at GLP March 24th at 9:28 pm. Something that did not go unnoticed by GLP posters and many others around the interwebz. On page 7 of a thread titled “Medical Type Says Sandy Hook is Total BS”, a user from “Kazakhstan” posted the following:

Re: Medical Type Says Sandy Hook is Total Bullshit

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Do any of the respondents display the urge to supply information that could be helpful to your mission?

Do the respondents appear hostile to your attempts to steer the discussion?

Have you made a personal chart taking care to note who appear to be the “leaders” versus who appear to be the “followers”?

Have you attempted to gauge the “temperature” of the forum’s users?

In other words, the prevailing social psychology of the forum’s members?

Have you been more successful with one or the other XStart methods that were demonstrated in N-7015A.DOC?

Have more technical members (Computer Programmers, Administrators, or Moderators) of the forum deduced or accused you of hiding behind a proxy?

Would you gain more trust and/or credibility if you were to use one of the Agency’s allotted “HOME” pools? (most often needed when handling EVTS that are more sensitive to the pop. of a specific locale but also location centered web sites such as FB or Patch)

Has your PREDEV “persona” been successful or do you gauge that the users find you to be too obtrusive? Accusations of being “ever present” are.

Quote by member: Our “korean” friend is probably part of the Sandy Hoax team. I’m guessing he is one of the many Israeli firsters we have seen so many of in SH. But he is not really helping his employer that much. His presence and views in different topics works as a litmus test telling if the OP is on to something or not.I bet one million shekels that he wouldn’t show up in a thread about Lt Vance shapeshifting…But he’s probably a nice guy doing what he thinks is the right thing.

Forum Shill gets Busted:ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks


shill-busted

Needless to say suspicions were aroused and investigations into specific terms in the text were Googled. Namely N-7015A.DOC, PREDEV persona, etc. An early search for N-7015A.DOC resulted in this entry:


N-7015A

Second from the bottom we see eda.ogden.disa.mil. If you do the same search, only the forum references appear. The eda site was very quickly removed from the Google string. How very very interesting…

Notes by Kennedy:

A search for N-7015A.DOC still gives me the result for the EDA website. Update: As of 3/29/13 I’m unable to re-produce the Google Search Resultfor the document on the eda.ogden.mil website. ATS has deleted the screenshots of the Google results, which were posted on page 2 in the thread.

We have highlighted certain abbreviations in the shill copy fail above. Below you can view our findings:

NCS = National Clandestine Services

The National Clandestine Service (NCS) (known as the Directorate of Plans from 1951 to 1973 and as the Directorate of Operations from 1973 to 2005) is one of the Central Intelligence Agency’s four main components.

Created in 2005, the NCS “serves as the clandestine arm of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the national authority for the coordination, de-confliction, and evaluation of clandestine operations across the Intelligence Community of the United States

SAD = Special Activities Division

The Special Activities Division (SAD) is a division in the United States Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) National Clandestine Service (NCS) responsible for covert operations known as “special activities”. Within SAD there are two separate groups, one for tactical paramilitary operations and another for covert political action.[1] The Political Action Group within SAD is responsible for covert activities related to political influence, psychological and economic warfare. The rapid development of technology has added cyberwarfare to their mission. Tactical units within SAD are also capable of carrying out covert political action. A large covert operation usually has components that involve many, or all, of these categories, as well as paramilitary operations.



Shills are all over the Sandy Hook story, and have been from the outset. ATS censored Sandy Hook threads and deleted them with impunity. That story was covered in more detail here.

On GLP, the threads, that were started regarding the Shill were deleted immediately, only traces of quotes from the original post remain.

A thread about the shill post was started on ATS and it was deleted the following day. You can access a cashed version of the first page of that thread here

This seems to be a peek behind the curtain of the shadowy world of counterintelligence operations employed to stymie the efforts of people who are quite rightly searching for the truth of the Sandy Hook debacle. ATS once again implicates itself in the cover-up of an important event that threatens to lead to further erosion of rights and freedoms of the American people.

How do the individuals working for clandestine services rationalize their efforts to hide the truth from the people? Is it just a paycheck? Do they have the same disdain for ordinary citizens that the elites have displayed? Do they feel that they are part of the elite, and must protect the interests of the elites in favor of all else? Just following orders?

The ship has too many leaks at this point. It is damage control mode 24/7 for these operators and I’m hoping that an attack of conscience might grip one or more of them. I won’t hold my breath, but it happens.

[Elihu]

It depends upon exactly what you want. Do you like theories about US government staging false flags to take away your guns? Do you enjoy reading about Mossad death squads? Do you like crisis actors? Do you want to know more about photo/video fakery and how the whole thing was shot in front of green screens? How 'bout FEMA drills? Do you prefer the "two shooters" theory, or the "no one died" theory? Do you like the idea that the shooting never happened at all, or that it happened but only a little bit?

There's something for everyone. But you could start by reading the wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook ... y_theories

And then move on to James Tracy, if you wanna go full retard:

http://memoryholeblog.com/2012/12/24/th ... formation/

...though even he doesn't cover it all. I guess there's no way around a lot of reading. You might as well just power through the thread, click every link, and I'll see ya in a month or so.

lemme see if i can condense it even more: in light of everything that has happened since 2001 (and pre-beyond) some less credulous people have in essence said "whoa, i have some questions". the response from the msmgov has categorically been "those questions are simply not credible." and further, from the foregoing quotations, such responses as have been forthcoming, have been, imo, altered in such a way as to paint the askers as the real dangers to social stability. the kind of advancing social stability proposed by the msmgov in response to this incident, be it gunz, more mic security contracts, the hypocrytical situational grief over the loss of life or what you will. if you do read the thread, it's been clearly implied that the cool kidz arent' the problem. there you have it. irreconcilable. the program will go forward...

[FourthBase]

Irreconcilable...yes, isn't that probably the point?
Some traps perceived are not, Admiral, traps.
But there does seem to be one real trap:
The unholy, pathological double-bind.

To navigate (out of) that trap, one has to become an expert tightrope-walker.

[barracuda]

for shits and giggles...

^^Yeah, the entire thread is highly instructive. Recommended reading.

Godlike Productions Forum thread - Medical Type Says Sandy Hook is Total Bullshit

[dbcooper41]

just a few observations and questions from the loyal oposition.

1-i'm not sure how pictures of a "normal looking" chris manfredonia prove anything about his innocence any more than the disturbing pics of adam lanza prove his guilt.
and not to be PC but can we please avoid using terms that end in "tard"? some of us find it very offensive and personal hurtful.

2-i would think any investigation would look closely at monfredonia due to the fact that he is the only known person alive who was at or near both crime scenes at the approximate times of the crimes.
that is, he was presumably within 1000feet of the lanza home that morning(at his own house) and he was also at the sandy hook school at the time of the shooting.
certainly nothing incriminating there but also it's hard to imagine a cop responding to this event would let someone walk away because he said he had a kid at the school and he "smelled sulfur".

3-was he united with his child before he was released?

4-was his car found in the parking lot?
if not, why not?
if so was he allowed to drive it away from an impounded crime scene?

5-has a time of death ever been published for nancy lanza?


in my opinion richard novia(rhymes with rodia ) is a worthy subject of inquiry.

that is all for now. thank you for your time.

[barracuda]

just a few observations and questions from the loyal oposition.

1-i'm not sure how pictures of a "normal looking" chris manfredonia prove anything about his innocence any more than the disturbing pics of adam lanza prove his guilt.

I never stated or meant to infer that the pictures proved anything about his guilt or innocence. The point of posting them was to point the curious type to the link, which is the beginning of a rope that ties him to a presence within the community as a real, historical individual rather than a crisis actor or interloper. If you wish to frame him as a "second shooter", it would seem you'd need to do more than simply place him at the scene. So what else is there? A criminal record? A record of mental health issues and violence? Military/intel background? Anything at all?

2-i would think any investigation would look closely at monfredonia due to the fact that he is the only known person alive who was at or near both crime scenes at the approximate times of the crimes.

As far as you are aware.

it's hard to imagine a cop responding to this event would let someone walk away because he said he had a kid at the school and he "smelled sulfur".

As far as you are aware.

[geogeo]

Thanks for the reference to the apparent outing of a shill on GLP.

Has anyone seen a detailed exegesis of the contents of the Lanza warrants? Perhaps this was discussed early on this thread, but I didn't see these points raised:

--http://www.amazon.com/Train-Your-Brain-Get-Happy/dp/B008SLRYNE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365163536&sr=8-1&keywords=trin+your+brain+to+get+happy. Ghostwritten, but the first author is Stony Brook-trained; this is a mind-control text even if of the innocuous kind. Got me thinking about "mind control" as essentially the subject of zillions of self-help books out there.

The warrants impress me as possibly detailing a set of planted evidence. Two books on Aspergers sitting around, seems odd, as this was a theory put out right away, but I haven't heard much more about it--seems that people with Asperger's aren't the mass shooter types, but who knows.
--five serial numbers blacked out. Why?

Blacked-out passages: in several cases, names are blacked out but are not those of Nancy or Adam Lanza. Not sure about the blacked-out witness one, and why they blacked out Adam Lanza's name there, but not elsewhere, as the person who is considered a shut-in, etc.

"Verizon Wireless cellular phone bills and contact bills for XXXXX and XXXX." For whom? Possibly the brother and the father? Can't be Adam or Nancy, can it, since they are mentioned by name in the same warrant?

"One Visa Platinum debit card for Nancy Lanza-xxxxxxx" Would the blacked-out part here be the cc number?

"Asbergers" -- spelled wrong

Timstar Shooting Range in Weatherford, OK -- will a connection be made to anybody else, at some point? Seems like a long way to go to practice. Would seem that all this evidenc eis meant to point to some crazy shooting club conspiracy. Thank goodness Connecticut got tough on these psychos...

Just wondering.

[dbcooper41]

other than they had a child in one of the more famous class rooms(Kaitlin Roig's),this has no obvious connection to the shooting.
as far as i am aware.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51371088/

A Newtown home destroyed by a fire this week was owned by a
couple whose children survived the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings
in December.
Wednesday afternoon's fire left Hans and Audra Barth and
their three children homeless, according to Monsignor Robert Wise, of St. Rose of
Lima Church. The American Red Cross has put them up in a hotel and the church
is collecting donations for the family.
Two of their children attended Sandy Hook Elementary School,
including a first-grader in teacher Kaitlin Roig's classroom, the
Danbury News-Times reported. Roig has been called a hero for barricading her
students in a bathroom as the shooter killed 20 other first-graders and
six educators.
Friends say the family lost everything in the fire, and
their pet dog and several baby chickens died.
The cause of the fire is under investigation.

[dbcooper41]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/05/riverview-gun-sales-newtown_n_3020029.html

News NEW HAVEN, Conn. — A shop that sold a gun to the Newtown school shooter's
mother has lost its federal firearms license.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives revoked the license of
Riverview Gun Sales in East Windsor in December. The agency didn't say why.
Authorities raided the store for undisclosed reasons shortly after the December
school shootings in which Adam Lanza killed 20 first-graders and six adults at
Sandy Hook Elementary School. He also shot to death his mother, Nancy, at their
home. Authorities say he fired 154 shots with a Bushmaster .223-caliber rifle
inside the school, then killed himself with a Glock handgun.
Nancy Lanza purchased a Bushmaster from Riverview, according to a person close
to the investigation into the school shooting who spoke on condition of
anonymity because the probe is continuing. It could not be confirmed whether the
Bushmaster was the one used in the shooting.
Shop owner David LaGuercia said in December that Nancy Lanza bought a gun from
him years ago, but he couldn't remember what kind. LaGuercia said at the time he
was cooperating with law enforcement.
"There is nothing more devastating than the loss of a child," LaGuercia said in
a statement in December. "We are absolutely appalled that the product that we
sold several years ago would be used in this type of horrendous crime. Our
hearts go out to the victims and the families."
His wife, Shelley Clemens, said Friday that she and her husband still don't know
why the ATF revoked his firearms license. She said the store remains open
selling ammunition and other items while LaGuercia appeals the revocation.
"They just came in the store after Sandy Hook, raided the store and took away
the license," she said, referring further questions to her husband. LaGuercia,
of Agawam, Mass., didn't return phone messages Friday.
Clemens said in December that store records show one gun was sold to Lanza.
The weapons used in the shooting had all apparently been purchased by Nancy
Lanza, prosecutor Stephen J. Sedensky III said last week when search warrants
were unsealed showing the Lanzas' home was packed with weapons and ammunition.
According to its website, Riverview Gun Sales, about 15 miles north of Hartford
and about 65 miles northeast of Newtown, sells a variety of rifles and pistols,
including Bushmaster and Glock.
The shop also sells high-capacity ammunition magazines like the ones authorities
say were used by Adam Lanza. In a law passed this week, Connecticut banned the
sale or purchase of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.

[barracuda]

Thanks for the reference to the apparent outing of a shill on GLP.

I sincerely doubt that's what happened. But I would say that, wouldn't I?

[barracuda]

Obama claims Adam Lanza used a machine gun

[geogeo]

Thanks for the reference to the apparent outing of a shill on GLP.

I sincerely doubt that's what happened. But I would say that, wouldn't I?

You're very good, and not unintelligent. Do you need a job?

[82_28]

Obama claims Adam Lanza used a machine gun

Could very well be! Think arms dealers and entrepreneurship in the spunky old by-its -bootstraps USofA. I've met a few in life. Let's leave it at that. These dealers essentially from what I know, bought a shit ton off the old USSR stockpile and they've been selling that shit for decades. Yep. Just put that in the bank and I ain't saying anything else.