Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[compared2what?]

I guess it's a matter of taste.

Sort of like junk food then. Because that Silber piece is most decidedly junk.

The New American is a John Birch Society production.

So he's linking to a publication put out by the Koch family's original faux-populist crypto-racist political front organization dedicated to making America freer for a small number of white people who own large corporations. And saying the problem with it is that they're wrong about martial law not working.

That's not just junk, imo.

I guess it's a matter of taste.

True that. One man's meat is another man's poison.

[stickdog99]

First, he was white and running for his life, according to the gas station attendant of called 911 for him.

Then he was let go because he was not American, according to NBC reports.

Now he is Chinese and he got away because his "brutal and cautious" kidnappers needed to put gas in the car and get snacks at the same time, giving him the opportunity to escape at the risk of being shot on the spot.

We still don't know who he is or what he does for a living.

Every morphing story of truth/agitprop finally evolves into official story.

[Simulist]

I guess it's a matter of taste.

Sort of like junk food then. Because that Silber piece is most decidedly junk.

The New American is a John Birch Society production.

So he's linking to a publication put out by the Koch family's original faux-populist crypto-racist political front organization dedicated to making America freer for a small number of white people who own large corporations. And saying the problem with it is that they're wrong about martial law not working.

That's not just junk, imo.

I guess it's a matter of taste.

True that. One man's meat is another man's poison.

Poison is a much better word than junk for this. Agreed.

And thank you for the background on The New American; that broadens my viewpoint on this.

[compared2what?]

Not that anybody benefits from these things besides the government, though!

[justdrew]

the silbur piece has me reevaluating everything of his I ever read. His rhetoric has always been a little over the top, but this latest piece of really too far.

Sammy's handler?

[Hunter]

First, he was white and running for his life, according to the gas station attendant of called 911 for him.

Then he was let go because he was not American, according to NBC reports.

Now he is Chinese and he got away because his "brutal and cautious" kidnappers needed to put gas in the car and get snacks at the same time, giving him the opportunity to escape at the risk of being shot on the spot.

We still don't know who he is or what he does for a living.

Every morphing story of finally evolves into official story.

excellent point

[Canadian_watcher]

Re the footage of the houseful of folks being sent out

The controversial moment SWAT teams ordered innocent neighbors out of their houses at GUNPOINT during door-to-door searches for the Boston bomber
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 20:12 EST, 22 April 2013 | UPDATED: 05:02 EST, 23 April 2013


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WHO ARE THEY????

And what were they being arrested for?

Seriously. I don't see why the legitimate questions have to be reserved exclusively for events that already have a public explanation. I want to know what was going on there.

the bold part. have you determined that they were arrested?

[NeonLX]

Sh!t. Really?

[justdrew]

Sh!t. Really?

updated above post to include a interview on his book of Sammy and his life together...

[compared2what?]

WHO ARE THEY????

And what were they being arrested for?

Seriously. I don't see why the legitimate questions have to be reserved exclusively for events that already have a public explanation. I want to know what was going on there.

the bold part. have you determined that they were arrested?

No. For all I know, they were hauled off without formalities or excuses of any kind.

I guess I'm just more of an optimist than I realized.

[Plutonia]

Speaking of Dzhokhar's appearance, am I the only one that noticed this:





The top image is Aaron Swartz - the hacker who helped Wikileaks with the Collateral Murder release and who suicided in January.

Keywords/images these two men have in common, besides looking like brothers - Cambridge, MIT, campus cop/ MIT cop, throat/neck injury, "won't speak again" and I dunno what else.

Oh! Also, this:

Aaron Swartz's prosecutor will prosecute Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

By Alex Moore 1 day ago

The Justice Department announced Monday that the surviving Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be tried in civilian court, not as an enemy combatant in military tribunal. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that federal prosectors will charge him with one count of using a weapon of mass destruction in the U.S. and one count of malicious destruction of property with an explosive device. Though Massachusetts state law does not allow for a death penalty, prosecutors may seek the death penalty in connection with the first charge in the case.

The federal prosecutor for Massachusetts who will prosecute Tsarnaev is Carmen Ortiz, who made news earlier this year for her aggressive handling of Aaron Swartz’s case, before Swartz committed suicide in January.

The irony of Ortiz landing this came after coming to fame for seeking overly harsh sentences isn’t lost on anyone.

“The criticism lately has been that they’ve over-charged some people and been overly harsh,” Peter Elikann, a Boston defense attorney told Reuters. “I don’t think that’s relevant for Tsarnaev because no one is going to accuse any prosecutor of making too big a deal out of this case.”

Aaron Swartz committed suicide in January after Ortiz’s office hung a 30-year jail sentence over his head for downloading too many academic files from online journal JSTOR. After the suicide Ortiz’s office defended her prosecution strategy, calling it “appropriate.”

Given the track record, it seems almost inevitable that Ortiz will seek the death penalty against Tsarnaev, who is 19.

After Swartz’s suicide, a petition popped up on the White House website to remove Ortiz from her office for pursuing an inappropriately harsh sentence against Swartz when even the academic journal he downloaded the files from didn’t want to press charges against him. Anonymous and the hacking community were vocal about what they viewed as Ortiz’s inhumane overreach.

It’s unlikely she’ll face much pushback in prosecuting Tsarnaev, no matter what punishment she seeks, thought it’ll be interesting to see whether any voices emerge through the noise to call for life imprisonment. Are we capable of rising against bloodlust, even when it’s in the name of revenge? I guess we’re about to find out.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/197504/ ... -tsarnaev/

Of course, this brings to mind for me the conflation of Anders Breivik with Assange. If that was a psyop, it didn't appear to be very successful and if this is similar operation, why bother conflating anything to someone already deceased? I dunno and maybe it's nothing, nothing at all...

[Simulist]

the silbur piece has me reevaluating everything of his I ever read. His rhetoric has always been a little over the top, but this latest piece of really too far.

The Silbur piece and what C2w pointed out has me reevaluating him, too.

[Canadian_watcher]

WHO ARE THEY????

And what were they being arrested for?

Seriously. I don't see why the legitimate questions have to be reserved exclusively for events that already have a public explanation. I want to know what was going on there.

the bold part. have you determined that they were arrested?

No. For all I know, they were hauled off without formalities or excuses of any kind.

I guess I'm just more of an optimist than I realized.

I guess I'm just not sure that they were hauled off at all - my guess would be that after the house was found to be terrorist free they were told, "get back inside"
To me, this is the way cops treat people who they think might possibly be guilty (even by unwitting association). I hold this belief because I've lived through such a nightmare (not that I'm stating this to win any points). It's not like you can reason with a group of cops who think you've got something to hide. Believe me, you cannot. And there's nothing you can do after they realize their mistake and let you go, either, unless you want to spend the rest of your life on the radar of a group of people who have already proven will torture you and laugh about it.

[Simulist]

Not that anybody benefits from these things besides the government, though!

Yes, it's a crazy reflex action — sort of a Pavlovian effect — that inspires so many to presume that only "the government" is behind every purported conspiracy.

And yours may be a very important observation: when people became more and more convinced that "the government" (which Americans still appear to have at least some ability to control) is the greatest threat to their liberties, they also became more and more trusting of an alternative, namely private enterprise (which Americans have even less ability to control).

If I represented the interests of private industry, I'd probably be very pleased about this development. I might even set about to foster it.

[compared2what?]

the silbur piece has me reevaluating everything of his I ever read. His rhetoric has always been a little over the top, but this latest piece of really too far.

I think it's possible that he either didn't realize or didn't intend it.

Or maybe he was just having an off day. Because in terms of content rather than tone, this...

But I wouldn't be grateful for it afterwards. And I certainly would not celebrate

...is so much what I usually expect from/appreciate him for saying that I thought of him back when I said it just wasn't the kind of thing I rooted for in life. So it's not totally unrecognizably his work in every way.

Maybe that's just grasping at straws, though.