2014 Malaysian Planes Lost: Pacific and Ukraine

[Iamwhomiam]

Leave it to the Mail to find and publish the craziest of photos of the pilot. But whether true or not, the story put out tends to reinforce he was pissed about the conviction of his saint.

Woo indeed. Were I to attempt such an illegal act, (something I would never do under any circumstance), I'd be sure to make it as 'spwooky' as possible. Spook woo.

And effective. Some of us just can't help but notice such 'coincidences'.

[elfismiles]

MH370 picture exclusive: Pilot wears anti-government slogan t-shirt amid fears he hijacked missing jet
Mar 16, 2014 06:00
By Josh Layton, Ben Glaze

The father-of-three was a fervent supporter of Anwar Ibrahim - jailed for homosexuality only hours before the Malaysia Airways jet disappeared


T-shirt: Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah (right) with best friend Peter Chong

The pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet is pictured in a T-shirt with a Democracy is Dead slogan as fears emerge he could have hijacked the plane as an anti-government protest.

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a fervent supporter of his country's opposition leader who was jailed for homosexuality - illegal in Malaysia - only hours before flight MH370 vanished with 239 passengers and crew on board, the Sunday Mirror can reveal.

And in a new twist, it emerged that the pilot's wife and three children moved out of the family's home the day before the plane's disappearance.

Not sure what to believe about MH370? We debunk the myths here.

The revelations came after Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak yesterday confirmed the Boeing 777 jet was deliberately diverted from its planned route between his country's capital Kuala Lumpur and Beijing.

Investigators said trackers aboard the plane, which transmit its location to air traffic controllers, were disabled moments after take-off last Friday.

And the airliner could have flown on for seven hours after vanishing from radar over the South China Sea.

Police raided the pilot's home in the suburbs of Kuala Lumpur on Saturday.

They spent two hours at the gated property and left carrying small bags believed to contain evidence.

They also found that the experienced pilot, who has worked for Malaysia Airlines since 1981, had built a Boeing 777 flight simulator inside.

Follow the latest developments in the search with our live blog here

But his friend Peter Chong insisted Capt Zaharie, 53, would be "the last person" to hijack the aircraft.

He told the Sunday Mirror: "I would trust that man with my life. He loves people and being involved in something like that would hurt people. I would not believe he was involved in any way at all. If I went on a plane and was allowed the choice of a pilot, I would choose Captain Zaharie."

Mr Chong last saw his friend a week before the jet vanished. He said the two had agreed to meet up this week and that the pilot had been "his normal, cheerful self".

But now he has become a focus of the police investigation.

On Twitter and YouTube he has backed human rights groups and campaigners for internet freedom in Malaysia, which has strict Government controls.

The slogan on his T-shirt, as he poses with his pal Peter, is dated May 5, 2013 - the date of the country's elections which led to violent protests against alleged poll fraud.

Opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim called activists on to the streets and Capt Zaharie has "liked" videos by Ibrahim posted on YouTube.

Ibrahim was sentenced to five years in jail on gay sex charges on March 7, provoking widescale condemnation across the country.

The jet vanished in the early hours of the 8th.

Experts say it could have crossed up to 14 countries and landed safely in Kazakhstan or crashed into the Indian Ocean.

Mr Chong, a political secretary to a Malaysian MP, described his friend as "a very caring person who puts people ahead of himself".

He said the pilot installed a mock-up of a 777 cockpit at his home only "to share his joy of flying with friends".

Capt Zaharie posted snaps of himself with the Boeing simulator on his Facebook page, along with another showing him brandishing a meat cleaver and holding a bowl of mince.

Mr Chong said Capt Zaharie would have done everything to ensure his 227 passengers were safe in the event of a hijack.

He was angry at suggestions the pilot could have "gone rogue" and hijacked his own plane.

Mr Chong said: "I just do not believe it until there is concrete evidence to prove otherwise. What I hope has happened is that it has been hijacked (by a passenger), landed somewhere and negotiations are going on."

Investigators believe someone with flying experience took the cockpit controls and steered Flight MH370 off its planned route.

A Malaysian government official said the hijacking theory was now "conclusive".

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Flight Global's operations and safety editor David Learmount said: "If it has flown north, why have none of the countries it has flown over
said anything?

"That's the thing that baffles me more than any other. They would have sent up aircraft to investigate. If it's gone south there's nothing there until you hit Antarctica."

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... 70-3248001

[8bitagent]

Perhaps this event is meant to be a rorschach test, to create a thousand theories and drive people mad

But you always think that. That can be everything. It says nothing about who, what, or in the service of what aims, and thus answers no questions of interest. (The "Rohrshach" idea would potentially be a question of interest, but only if we already knew the who and what and these appeared to be intended as such a test.) It also does not attempt an outline of our own ignorance, within which we might begin to assign probabilities to differing possibilities (in a Bayesian way). Not bothering is fine, far less problematic than fashioning definitive (and definitely untrue) guesses out of the mass of our own ignorance. But if you do bother, don't just do so to capitulate.

I agree completely. Just wanted to say the reason why media and armchair sleuths alike are throwing darts, it's the not-knowing aspect that doesnt sit well...Least when the Boston Bombing happened, it was agreed upon that it was a deliberate terrorist attack. Here, not even aviation experts can really wrap their minds around this thing. but the not knowing...be it a missing persons/unsolved crime case, or even something as innocent as losing a grape under the sofa, that eats away at the psyche and cannot let the mind rest. Things *have* to make sense, they have to fit into a puzzle gap. Even if it's roughly in a ballpark. I think that's why the one line I took away from True Detective was "This is a world where nothing is solved", as that seems to be the running theme for most RI discussed topics. If this mystery doesn't point toward nefarious pilot actions, a mechanical failure, or some understandable conclusion it just can't exist in our perception of reality...least that's the vibe I get from those who are intrigued or affected by this event. My point is that there's a sort of game by internet detectives, the media and Malaysian officials to guess at what may never be known. Hence why everyone has their own pet theories. I don't have a theory other than I think sometimes in life things will never be known. Until it simply has been forgotten down the memory vortex. Ok, the vortex theory I do find the most intriguing.

[8bitagent]

I understand that focusing on the pilot for them seems to be the most plausible lead. It just doesn't seem plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist, completely going against a lifetime devoted to a central love
of flying and ensuring people's safety. Is this the Capt Philip Marshall explanation? A veteran pilot's wife and kids leave, so he randomly snaps and becomes a murderous madmad? Because even if this does end up
being the most likely case, why wouldn't the younger co-captain fight to his death to stop it? Unless he too was sharing the same programmed delusional mission? A plane goes way the hell off course, going the opposite way for hours and hours and an agitated passenger with anxiety doesnt stand up and shout "what the hell is going on?", rousing his or her fellow passengers to also vocally and passionately demand answers. Getting out of their seats. especially in this post 9/11 world.

If this man planned for this event, he would have typed up a manifesto or letter, or emailed at least someone...or posted a cryptic posting on facebook, foreshadowing. Or said a foreshadowing comment to a co-worker. In virtually every mass shooter case, from Fort Hood to Safeway/giffords to VT tech to Adam Lanza there was always either a note or foreshadowing/breadcrumb trails pointing to an individual about to go on a killing spree. Now you add in the political message, it definitely would be likely someone would call into a tv station, leave an email/social network post or written statement.

[Wombaticus Rex]

It just doesn't seem plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist...

Got a good belly laugh out of that, thank you.

Bill Ayers is grateful that you think he's just misunderstood, too.

I do agree, though, that it is not plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist without writing an extensively referenced manifesto.

[SonicG]

On Twitter and YouTube he has backed human rights groups and campaigners for internet freedom in Malaysia, which has strict Government controls.

You really gotta hope they are just snatching at straws with this...Cannot imagine what the consequences of that would be...An obvious subtext to all of this is that with all the surveillance, panopticon, hyper advanced technology, this plane has vanished. Yeah, I know, intentional obfuscation...

[Lord Balto]

I understand that focusing on the pilot for them seems to be the most plausible lead. It just doesn't seem plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist, completely going against a lifetime devoted to a central love
of flying and ensuring people's safety. Is this the Capt Philip Marshall explanation? A veteran pilot's wife and kids leave, so he randomly snaps and becomes a murderous madmad? Because even if this does end up
being the most likely case, why wouldn't the younger co-captain fight to his death to stop it? Unless he too was sharing the same programmed delusional mission? A plane goes way the hell off course, going the opposite way for hours and hours and an agitated passenger with anxiety doesnt stand up and shout "what the hell is going on?", rousing his or her fellow passengers to also vocally and passionately demand answers. Getting out of their seats. especially in this post 9/11 world.

If this man planned for this event, he would have typed up a manifesto or letter, or emailed at least someone...or posted a cryptic posting on facebook, foreshadowing. Or said a foreshadowing comment to a co-worker. In virtually every mass shooter case, from Fort Hood to Safeway/giffords to VT tech to Adam Lanza there was always either a note or foreshadowing/breadcrumb trails pointing to an individual about to go on a killing spree. Now you add in the political message, it definitely would be likely someone would call into a tv station, leave an email/social network post or written statement.

Parallels:

1) Sirhan Sirhan is hypnotized into thinking he's at a shooting range whereas he's really shooting at Senator Kennedy, acting as a diversion for the real assassins.
2) Zaharie Ahmad Shah is hypnotized into thinking he's at his flight simulator, whereas he's flying a real plane off course, acting as a diversion for ???

The problem, of course, is that Sirhan was acting alone. This guy not only had a copilot, he had an entire flight crew to deal with. I find it difficult to believe the entire flight crew was involved. So what happens when he leaves the cockpit to hit the rest room? Do they ask him, What's up, Doc? Or are there people with guns or knives waving them around and giving orders? This all suggests they had a particular destination in mind, yet nothing else about this incident looks like a classical hijacking.

[elfismiles]

“a riddle wrapped in mystery inside an enigma.”

3/16/2014 @ 2:33PM 3,707 views
The Disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370 Represents An Affront To Our Most Basic Assumptions About Reality

We may never know what happened inside the cockpit of flight 370 in the hour after take-off en route to Beijing.

The world is transfixed by the literally unthinkable events surrounding the apparent hijacking and disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight 370 over one week ago. The unfolding story is a concatenation of improbabilities – a series of unlikely and unanticipated events that shows just how far reality can deviate from our expectations for normality.

We’ve seen this before, when men with box-cutters took over four airliners on September 11th, 2001 and flew them into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania. Only, in that incident every second was uncannily documented by multiple systems, including airport security cameras, radar, passenger cell phone calls, and video footage. And, of course, the organization behind the attacks claimed responsibility from the outset.
English: Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 flight M...

Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

In contrast, the high-jacking of flight 370 represents what Winston Churchill, referring to Stalin’s Russia in 1939, called “a riddle wrapped in mystery inside an enigma.”

We live in an age when the unmanned space vehicle Voyager I, which was launched 36 years ago and is the first man-made object to travel beyond the solar system, is still sending radio signals back to Earth from a distance of 20 billion miles.

We don’t expect a large, state-of-the-art jetliner — like a Boeing BA +1% 777 – to disappear without a trace.

Whatever the diabolical intentions of whoever took over the plane one hour into the flight and diverted it from its scheduled course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, both the Malaysian civil aviation and the Malaysian military totally ignored key pieces of information that would have helped construct a picture early on of what happened. As a result, the available data were misinterpreted and key opportunities were missed.

The chain of mistakes and missed opportunities is truly mind-boggling. For most of last week ships and planes from multiple countries were searching the Gulf of Thailand, where we now know—and the information was available to know it on day one — that the plane could not be.

As time has elapsed – we are now in the ninth day – the mystery has only deepened, and the search area has expanded probably by orders of magnitude. The twin improbabilities of a state-of-the-art jetliner disappearing without a trace and the series of missed opportunities is now counter-balanced by the improbability of ever finding the plane and ever knowing what happened to it and its passengers.

Because of the missed information – the revelation that the plane turned west after the first hour and flew across the Malay peninsula and then possibly flew for another SIX HOURS either northwest or southwest – the task of locating the plane either in the ocean or on land represents and daunting and unprecedented challenge.

This is a nightmare scenario in which everything that could possibly have gone wrong did go wrong.

Everything in our nature makes us want to know what happened. We want the mystery to be resolved. This is a basic human need – the demand for an explanation, the desire to know the end of the story. But our deep intellectual-and-yet-also-visceral desire to know is only a pale version of what the relatives of the passengers on flight 370 must be experiencing. They want to know what happened to their loved ones, what became of the plane, and to comprehend the inconceivable ordeal they must have experienced before the flight met its end.

Now, taking into account crucial information that was overlooked during the first days of the investigation — military radar readings and satellite detection of the last signal from the plane – we know that, rather than having ditched in the Gulf of Thailand off the east coast of Malaysia, the plane could possibly have flown for another 7 hours and might be anywhere along one of two roughly 4,000 mile arcs, one stretching to the northwest over China and ending in Central Asia, the other to the southwest over the south Indian Ocean and ending off the west coast of Australia.

Now, more than a week after the events, investigators will have to examine every available scrap of evidence that might shed light on what happened in the cockpit one hour into the flight. This includes scrutinizing the backgrounds of all 239 people – passengers and crew – on the flight, communications data from military and civilian aviation systems, and satellites, and searching tens — and possibly hundreds — of thousands of square miles of ocean.

An article in the New York Times two days ago described the enormous power of sophisticated search techniques using data from many different sources that could be used to find the missing plane. These techniques were used by a U.S. Navy search team to find the submarine Scorpion after it sank in the North Atlantic in 1968. The approach is described as a “kind of crowd-sourcing.” “Forecasters draw on expertise from diverse but relevant areas – in the case of finding a submarine, say, submarine command, ocean salvage, and oceanography experts, as well as physicists and engineers. Each would make an educated guess as to where the ship is, based on different scenarios. … The idea behind such pooled forecasting is that each person offers a small bit of insight and that those ‘weak signals from diverse experts accumulate quickly,’ said Philip E. Tetlock, a professor of management at the Wharton School who works with the Office of Naval Intelligence on the Good Judgment Project, which tests forecasts of geopolitical events.”

We must recognize that, in spite of the enormous capabilities and ingenuity that will be brought to bear belatedly on the mystery, the remains of the plane may never be found. But, even if it were to be found, the key information may be missing because the “black box” data recorder only saves the last two hours of the flight data. So, it is possible that if the plane flew for a number of hours after the takeover, the actual recording of the crucial events may be erased.

The disappearance of flight 370 reminds us that, in spite of our technological sophistication and the unprecedented achievement of airline safety and reliability, as long as human beings are involved, there is always the possibility of the unforeseen, the unexpected, and the diabolically unpredictable.

Geoffrey Kabat is a cancer epidemiologist at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine and a contributing editor at STATS (Statistical Assessment Service) at George Mason University. He is the author of Hyping Health Risks: Environmental Hazards in Daily Life and the Science of Epidemiology.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykab ... t-reality/

[Zombie Glenn Beck]

It just doesn't seem plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist...

Got a good belly laugh out of that, thank you.

Bill Ayers is grateful that you think he's just misunderstood, too.

I do agree, though, that it is not plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist without writing an extensively referenced manifesto.

Hey man, if they dont murder people it isnt a manifesto.

[Luther Blissett]

It just doesn't seem plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist...

Got a good belly laugh out of that, thank you.

Bill Ayers is grateful that you think he's just misunderstood, too.

I do agree, though, that it is not plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist without writing an extensively referenced manifesto.

Hey man, if they dont murder people it isnt a manifesto.

I'm sure we're all aware of the massive statistical gulf between what could be considered terror from "the right" and that from "the left." Who maintains the complementary list to the Southern Poverty Law Center's?

[8bitagent]

Something about this image almost made me want to cry, just the hopelessness. I know this is yet another wtf meta media event we're dissecting, but man...this image. Just the sense of not knowing where there families are. The chain yanking/false leads. Nothing to go on. Even in Tsunamis or other mass events, the families of the missing at least know what they're dealing with even if their loved one is not found. Noone knows what weird shit this is.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missin ... ags-n54101




http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/asi ... scination/

Why are we so gripped by missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370?

It's been more than a week since Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 seemingly vanished into thin air. Clues are few and far between.

Yet we remain glued to the story -- hungry, some almost desperate, for any tidbit of news. Why?

"I think the most fascinating aspect of this story now is that it's become ... transcendent. And by that, I mean, it's no longer a story about an airplane crash; it's a mystery story," Patrick Smith, an airline pilot, blogger and author, told CNN's "Piers Morgan Live."

The story of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has dominated headlines and social media since it broke.

An insatiable demand for news

"This is a very strange event," said aviation historian Carroll Gray. "It doesn't lend itself to the normal sets of explanations."
What does the U.S. know about MH 370?

Such mysteries are "phenomenally gripping," Gray said. "Things that are unsolved just sort of grab people, especially when you have the common experience of flying."

Saltz agreed.

"They want someone to hold accountable. It's a very disturbing thought, and right now we can't figure out who's to blame," she said.

The psychiatrist summed up our fascination: [/b] "I think this nebulousness keeps us riveted."[b]

[82_28]

That image is the very reason why this event was scripted as such. No one can deny that there is not now a script. This is why you cause it -- the script writing to happen. You can't shock people's minds into accepting everything they see and hear. It must be scripted. The script is the confusion and the confusion is the script. All large media events are scripted.

This is why Titanic grips us so. The script. Obviously also the show "Lost" -- which I never watched because I thought it was misleading in the sense of the paranormal. But it all foreshadows something. That something is the total takeover of what we believe to be real. Belief. What we take at face value. Forging a new value.

Think about how when the first airliners came "on-line" but with the added interest of Lindbergh and Earhart. Flying through the skies was the "then" "VR" because of the mystery. The two most well-known celebrity aviators are forever conscripted to mystery. And now the "industry of mystery".

[Lord Balto]

“a riddle wrapped in mystery inside an enigma.”

3/16/2014 @ 2:33PM 3,707 views
The Disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370 Represents An Affront To Our Most Basic Assumptions About Reality

We’ve seen this before, when men with box-cutters took over four airliners on September 11th, 2001 and flew them into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania. Only, in that incident every second was uncannily documented by multiple systems, including airport security cameras, radar, passenger cell phone calls, and video footage. And, of course, the organization behind the attacks claimed responsibility from the outset.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykab ... t-reality/

Does anyone still take this twaddle seriously? Last time I looked, Al Qaida had denied any connection with the attack. And the Pentagon has still not released any footage of an actual passenger plane flying into the Pentagon. And the ACARS data, which these idiots have now raised to the level of holy writ, clearly showed one of the WTC flights still in the air half an hour after it supposedly hit the building. I think this is called "argument from mythology." The Greeks didn't even bother to enumerate this in their list of logical fallacies. It's that obviously ridiculous.

[Lord Balto]

It just doesn't seem plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist...

Got a good belly laugh out of that, thank you.

Bill Ayers is grateful that you think he's just misunderstood, too.

I do agree, though, that it is not plausible for a left wing activist to go all terrorist without writing an extensively referenced manifesto.

Hey man, if they dont murder people it isnt a manifesto.

Marx never murdered anyone.

[Lord Balto]

Kazakhstan is now denying that any unsanctioned flights crossed their territory on the 8th.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10700892/Malaysian-Airlines-MH370-live.html

And once again, the Malaysians have changed their story

The government added to the confusion about what happened during those key minutes by withdrawing its assertion that the radio signoff came after a crucial communications system was disabled.

The new description of what happened to the Acars system appeared to reopen the possibility that the aircraft was operating normally until the transponder ceased sending signals two minutes after the last radio message. The new uncertainty could also raise additional questions about whether the plane was deliberately diverted or whether it suffered mechanical or electrical difficulties that crippled its communications and resulted in its flying an aberrant course.

One has to seriously wonder why anyone would fly Malaysian Airlines ever again.

Escape and evasion, smoke and mirrors, it’s all part of a plan.
With a blank cheque book from Uncle Sam… I was the best, I was the man.
--The Ballad of Ed Lansdale. http://www.blackopradio.com/lansdale_song.html