*president trump is seriously dangerous*

[82_28]

Yeah, I don't even know what you motherfucking mean, Mac. Peeps ideas and thoughts are their ideas and thoughts. Since I respect you and always and in all ways refrain from personal attacks, online and "IRL" what the fuck are you going on about? I actually would like to know. Like say I light a candle, I know I summoned the lighter to do it, but what is your flame about? As for myself, I merely offered an observation. Nothing to even argue about.

[seemslikeadream]

Madonna was NOT at the Chicago 250,000 people rally

Madonna was NOT at the Seattle rally

Madonna was NOT at the LA rally

Madonna was NOT at the NY rally

Madonna was NOT at the Boston rally 175,000

and so on and so on and so on

[seemslikeadream]

Here’s the Official List of Speakers for the Women’s March on Washington


The Women’s March on Washington announced its celebrity lineup last week, but just because people like Cher, Chelsea Handler, and Katy Perry will be there doesn’t mean they’ll all actually be speaking. The official lineup of speakers was announced on Wednesday and includes everyone from Gloria Steinem (who, by the way, will totally give you a ride to D.C.) to transgender activist Janet Mock to documentarian and vocal Donald Trump critic Michael Moore. Here’s the complete list:

Cecile Richards, president, Planned Parenthood Federation of America

Erika Andiola, activist

Ilyasah Shabazz, activist

J. Bob Alotta, activist and filmmaker

Janet Mock, activist, writer, and television host

LaDonna Harris, activist

Maryum Ali, activist

Melanie Campbell, activist

Rabbi Sharon Brous

Rhea Suh, activist

Sister Simone Campbell, attorney

Sophie Cruz, activist

Zahra Billoo, activist

America Ferrera, actress

Angela Davis, activist, scholar, author

Gloria Steinem, activist

Ashley Judd, actress and activist

Scarlett Johansson, actress

Melissa Harris-Perry, television host

Michael Moore, filmmaker

Amanda Nguyen, activist

Randi Weingarten, attorney

Van Jones, television host

George Gresham, activist

Mothers of the Movement (Sybrina Fulton, Lucia McBath, Maria Hamilton, Gwen Carr), activists

Hina Naveed, activist

Judith Le Blanc (Caddo), activist

Kristin Rowe-Finkbeiner, author and activist

Aida Hurtado, psychologist

Melissa Mays, activist

Raquel Willis, activist and writer

Rosyln Brock, activist

Sister Ieasha Prime, activist

The Honorable Muriel Bowser, mayor of Washington, D.C.

Ai-jen Poo, activist

Wendy Carrillo, activist

Dr. Cynthia Hale, pastor

Tamika Mallory, Carmen Perez, Linda Sarsour, Bob Bland, Women’s March co-chairs

http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/01/here-ar ... ngton.html

[MacCruiskeen]

Yeah, I don't even know what you motherfucking mean, Mac. Peeps ideas and thoughts are their ideas and thoughts. Since I respect you and always and in all ways refrain from personal attacks, online and "IRL" what the fuck are you going on about? I actually would like to know. Like say I light a candle, I know I summoned the lighter to do it, but what is your flame about? As for myself, I merely offered an observation. Nothing to even argue about.

Since you ask, 82:

Just a bit of an idle observation. . .

I just watched the "presser" (I think it is still ongoing) with this Sean Spicer and I noticed how much he has been coached and/or as a copycat and his gesticulations were perfectly aping the way trump does it. He was combative for a bit and obviously appeared ridiculous. It made me ask, who the fuck coaches trump himself? But it was the thumb to the index finger all the way. Dare I say it, but "the media" didn't seem to be buying shit.

Spicer has their first names down it seems all of a sudden. Coached, at least to a degree and had to bone up overnight -- reason being he didn't know their names yesterday. Hey, CIA, do something.

That's quite a punchline. What are you hoping the CIA will do to him, concretely?

They're your words, 82, so that's why I asked you what you meant by them.

I give up, though, really. Words are without significance. Hey CIA, do something. Hey Putin, stop hacking our elections. Hey Trump, stop dissing our fine corporate media. None of it means anything. Like Madonna, we're all just expressing our self, presuming that self actually exists and we know exactly what it is and why it is worth expressing.

"I came and performed Express Yourself and thats exactly what i did." (Madonna)

Yes you did.

Brian Madonna: You're all individuals.

Crowd (in unison): We're all individuals.

Thats the message, all right.

[seemslikeadream]

a MILLION people showed up and he focuses on one

a million people showed up because a grandma in Hawaii asked them to


but of course let's not talk about her

[seemslikeadream]

you know what let's talk about her for a second

It started with a retiree. Now the Women’s March could be the biggest inauguration demonstration.

By Perry Stein and Sandhya Somashekhar January 3
Teresa Shook never considered herself much of an activist, or someone particularly versed in feminist theory. But when the results of the presidential election became clear, the retired attorney in Hawaii turned to Facebook and asked: What if women marched on Washington around Inauguration Day en masse?

She asked her online friends how to create an event page, and then started one for the march she was hoping would happen.

By the time she went to bed, 40 women responded that they were in.

When she woke up, that number had exploded to 10,000.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... 81db3b6def

[seemslikeadream]

nope Madonna didn't show up here either

Scott G. Winterton, Deseret News
Thousands march to Utah's Capitol for women's rights
By Devon Dewey | Posted Jan 23rd, 2017 @ 5:25pm

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5PM: Thousands march to Utah's Capitol for women's rightsKSL TV
SALT LAKE CITY — Thousands of Utahns marched to the Capitol on Monday as part of the worldwide Women's March movement.

Participants in the march said they want their voices heard both in Utah and across the nation. The Utah Highway Patrol estimated at least 6,000 people showed up for the event.

"We are not happy with the results of the election; we expect them to hear us. We expect them the respond," said Deborah Davis, who participated in the march.

Many people involved in the movement hope the sign of solidarity will make an impact on President Donald Trump.

"This is a start," said Ryan Hinkins. "This is when you start writing letters, emails, calling your representatives. This is a start. It's a very visual demonstration."

The march was organized by a group called Utah Women Unite. According to the group's Facebook event page, it exists to "protect and advance the rights of all Utah women and girls, including Utah's marginalized groups, women of color, LGBTQIA+ individuals, women of all abilities and from every financial status."

Another march was held in Park City on Saturday and was part of hundreds around the world. Other Utah cities that participated were Kanab, Moab, Ogden, St. George, and Bluff.

More information will be added to this story throughout the day.

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Trump’s Withdrawal From Asia Trade Deal Viewed as Boon for China
by Justin Sink , Toluse Olorunnipa , and Enda Curran
January 23, 2017, 12:30 PM CST January 23, 2017, 9:07 PM CST
China is now championing an alternative Asia trade pact
TPP was centerpoint of Obama’s foreign policy focus on Asia
Trump Signs Executive Order to Withdraw From TPP
U.S. President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from a long-planned Pacific trade pact creates a political and economic vacuum that China is eager to fill, potentially damaging American prestige in Asia.

With Trump making good on his campaign pledge to nix a deal that was the centerpiece of predecessor Barack Obama’s Asia policy, China’s leaders are already ramping up support for globalization and free trade. In a speech last week to the World Economic Forum at Davos, President Xi Jinping likened protectionism to "locking oneself in a dark room."

Trump opposed the pact because he said it could hurt American jobs. But the impact of his decision is likely to go beyond trade, giving more leeway to Xi to position China as an economic and military anchor in the western Pacific. Since coming to power, Xi has sought to expand China’s trade ties with its neighbors and begun an ambitious infrastructure project designed to reinvigorate ancient trading routes to the Middle East and Europe.

The failure of the U.S.-led Trans-Pacific Partnership -- which would have covered 12 nations and about 40 percent of global gross domestic product -- will see China step up its advocacy for an alternative pact first conceived by Southeast Asian countries. That deal doesn’t currently include the U.S. and contains fewer measures to tackle non-tariff barriers to trade. The TPP was contentious in part because it addressed issues like environmental and labor protections.

"The U.S. is now basically in a position where we had our horse, the Chinese had their horse -- but our horse has been put out to pasture and is no longer running in the race," said Eric Altbach, vice president at Albright Stonebridge Group in Washington and former deputy assistant U.S. Trade Representative for China affairs. "It’s a giant gift to the Chinese because they now can pitch themselves as the driver of trade liberalization."

Under Obama, the U.S. used its Asia “pivot” to push back against China, which threatens over time to displace decades of U.S. dominance. While China has grown in clout it has also unnerved neighbors with its military expansion and its behavior over disputed areas of the East China Sea and South China Sea. The TPP was seen as a way to further bind countries, including smaller Southeast Asian nations, to the U.S. -- and act as a buffer.
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China is concerned alongside other nations that Trump will pursue protectionist policies, Zhang Jun, an economic affairs official at the foreign ministry, said on Monday in a briefing before the TPP announcement. “If China has taken up a leadership role, it is because the front runners have stepped back, leaving that place to China,” Zhang said.

Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican who chairs the Armed Services Committee, ripped Trump’s decision. Obama’s last defense secretary, Ash Carter, once said the TPP would be more strategically valuable than another aircraft carrier battle group in the Pacific.

The U.S. withdrawal "will create an opening for China to rewrite the economic rules of the road at the expense of American workers," McCain said. "And it will send a troubling signal of American disengagement in the Asia-Pacific region at a time we can least afford it."

“It’s arguable that the U.S. would have in fact benefited more from the TPP than Asia as average tariff levels are higher in Asia than the U.S.,” said Shane Oliver, the Sydney-based head of investment strategy at AMP Capital Investors Ltd.

“Bilateral deals could ultimately have the same impact but will take a long time to reach,” he said. “I think the focus will now shift to regional deals involving China.”

The 16-nation Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership being championed by China takes in Southeast Asia countries, plus Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand and India. Some leaders from TPP nations signaled after Trump’s election they’d shift their attention to the RCEP, with the next round of talks due to be held as soon as next month in Japan.

Read more: A QuickTake explainer on Trump’s trade policy

While some TPP leaders have indicated they might try and push on without the U.S., the pact looks to have run its course, said Victor Gao, director of the China National Association of International Studies who was a translator for late leader Deng Xiaoping.

"In China, we have an old saying: if a ship idles by the river bank by itself, other ships will keep sailing forward, and will leave the idled ship behind,” he said.

Obama regularly warned that failure to pass the TPP would let Beijing replace Washington in driving the rules of global trade. And his Council of Economic Advisers estimated the passage of RCEP would lead to the loss of market share among U.S. industries that now export more than $5 billion in goods to Japan.

Economic Impact

But the TPP never had overwhelming support in Congress, where many Democrats applauded Trump for withdrawing from it.

“I am glad the Trans-Pacific Partnership is dead and gone," Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who campaigned for president as a Democrat on a promise to scrap the deal, said in a statement.

The biggest economic impact will likely be on apparel and footwear importers who would have seen tariff savings, according to Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Caitlin Webber. And it will likely be harder for U.S. companies to penetrate Asian supply chains in the future.

Beyond trade, Asian leaders are stung after investing political capital in the deal.

Killing TPP "really undermines the United States" in the eyes of Asian allies, according to Ian Bremmer, president of the Eurasia Group. "They put a lot of effort into it, and now they feel like they can’t rely on the United States.”

Read more: QuickTake explainer on China’s free-trade strategy

Still, influence in Asia appears less important to the new president than his ability to deliver on a campaign promise and burnish his image as a champion of American workers. At his signing ceremony Monday in the Oval Office, Trump called the move a "great thing for the American worker, what we just did."

And it may not be smooth sailing for China even if the TPP is finished.

"China will try to fill the gap now, and yet China is a colossal net exporter, not importer," said Michael Every, head of financial markets research at Rabobank Group in Hong Kong. "Caveat Emptor for Asia if it rushes from TPP to RCEP.”

Beijing could find challenges now rallying other nations behind it, according to Barry Naughton, a professor of Chinese economy at the University of California in San Diego.

“They are not in position to take their own interests and merge that with a set of global interests and make the kind of sacrifices necessary to bring allies closer to them,” he said on Bloomberg Television. “If we look at their record over the last couple of years, we have to say they are not up to the challenge yet.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... -for-china

and btw trump has been advocating for the U.S. committing WAR CRIMES!!

[JackRiddler]

SLAD, so now you're for TPP? I'm sure you've flooded the board with anti-TPP stuff. Protests and opposition killed it months ago, the Congress was opposed, Trump is now taking credit.

MacC, there's an argument to be made I suppose that the organizers should not have allowed Madonna to speak, because then people couldn't do what you're doing right now. But the target would then just shift to the next most famous or ridiculous of the speakers.

I was there. 600,005 people. My friends and I marched. We didn't hear any of the speeches! I doubt most people present cared about that.

Here is an informal and tentative survey of the Women's March, based on what I saw in Washington and my own attempt to categorize the messages displayed by the protesters:

All ages were in attendance, of course, but the marchers were overwhelmingly young and energetic. I'd estimate that at least 2/3 were women.

The most frequent signage and other forms of display (costumes, paper mache, theater, singing, etc.) related to women's rights and abortion rights, also LGBTQ rights, with hundreds of thousands of pussy hats and signs or t-shirts typically reading "hands off my pussy/uterus," "feminist," and the like. By far. Generally these messages were not tied to parties, persons, or other issues.

Next most frequent in visibility were probably the generic anti-Trump messages (largely making fun of him, usual jokes). Typical of this was one huge sign reading, "We Fucked Up Bigly." At about the same visibility were straight pro-Clinton, Arrow-H, "I'm with Her," "Stronger Together," and the like, but not so that you could never look away and not see it.

At a similar level in visibility compared to the last two categories, at least as I observed it, were displays devoted to a variety of existing radical movements and issues that have come to be associated as the new left. In this I am combining Black Lives Matter, climate and ecology, immigrant rights, income inequality, No DAPL, socialist groups, etc. There was a huge beautiful globe decorated with clouds being rotated by a crowd near the Washington Monument, but we did not got too near to that.

There was little organized union presence that I saw, although unions filled a couple of hundred buses from New York. Big D-orgs like MoveOn and DFA were not generally evident on the ground, although of course they did send out e-mails before the march. This march was organized ad-hoc and stayed that way, and I think that's just as well. So there was a political diversity.

Definitely present but less so than the above categories was the stuff about Russia taking over the United States, some of which really belonged more in an early cold war rally calling for the execution of the Rosenbergs (commissar costumes, hammer and sickle, slogans in Russian, etc.)

There was a smattering of Sanders-related stuff, and I have heard reports that some who had worked for the campaign chose to stay home. Presumably there were many Sanders voters among those displaying the issues-related signage, as described above. (Like our own group, with our big banner supporting protection for immigrants and refugees. People after all did not vote for Sanders because of a cult of personality, but because of the issues to which he spoke.)

Relatively missing was the city's black community. There were of course a lot of people of every color and it was a highly diverse crowd but if a large proportion of the city's majority black community had shown up I expect it would have been obvious. Again, I'm just me, but if it's an indicator I probably saw more white people holding up BLM signs (very good of course) than black people. This is a very long-term problem with U.S. movements and has rarely been overcome.

I have to say it is what it is and if we start the history clock on Jan. 20 with the accession of this beast, this response was as fantastic and promising and energetic and unprecedented and perfectly timed as I could have imagined; if still inchoate and evolving. There were millions of people all around the country and all the other places in the world where there were rallies! The big international response is crucial, for a rally originating in the United States (if outside the scope of my "survey.") And I think there was an awareness that none of the announced assaults of the new government will be stopped without continuing, stubborn organizing and resistance.

(Please note all the disclaimers. This is only what I saw. We went the entire route of the protest with a lot of back and forth and also stopped at various points and thus saw many long segments march past and big crowds gathered in open areas. But I didn't see everyone!)

[Project Willow]

you know what let's talk about her for a second

I was told it was planned well in advance by the Women's National Democratic Club. Here's a post from August, 2016. http://democraticwoman.org/womens-march-on-washington/

[seemslikeadream]

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*
Post by JackRiddler » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:07 pm
SLAD, so now you're for TPP?

NO Jack ...did I say that? I think I was just posting an article about China

The first days inside Trump’s White House: Fury, tumult and a reboot

Spicer promises honesty as press secretary, but says 'sometimes we disagree on the facts' Play Video6:56

White House spokesman Sean Spicer promised reporters to always be truthful in his role as White House press secretary and addressed misstatements he made about Metro ridership on Inauguration Day. (Reuters)

By Ashley Parker, Philip Rucker and Matea Gold January 23 at 9:47 PM

President Trump had just returned to the White House on Saturday from his final inauguration event, a tranquil interfaith prayer service, when the flashes of anger began to build.

Trump turned on the television to see a jarring juxtaposition — massive demonstrations around the globe protesting his day-old presidency and footage of the sparser crowd at his inauguration, with large patches of white empty space on the Mall.

As his press secretary, Sean Spicer, was still unpacking boxes in his spacious new West Wing office, Trump grew increasingly and visibly enraged.

Pundits were dissing his turnout. The National Park Service had retweeted a photo unfavorably comparing the size of his inauguration crowd with the one that attended Barack Obama’s swearing-in ceremony in 2009. A journalist had misreported that Trump had removed the bust of Martin Luther King Jr. from the Oval Office. And celebrities at the protests were denouncing the new commander in chief — Madonna even referenced “blowing up the White House.”

Trump’s advisers suggested that he could push back in a simple tweet. Thomas J. Barrack Jr., a Trump confidant and the chairman of the Presidential Inaugural Committee, offered to deliver a statement addressing the crowd size.

White House press secretary's inauguration claims, annotated Play Video2:01

During a briefing, White House press secretary Sean Spicer accused members of the press on Saturday of “deliberately false” inaugural coverage. (Thomas Johnson/The Washington Post)

But Trump was adamant, aides said. Over the objections of his aides and advisers — who urged him to focus on policy and the broader goals of his presidency — the new president issued a decree: He wanted a fiery public response, and he wanted it to come from his press secretary.

Spicer’s resulting statement — delivered in an extended shout and brimming with falsehoods — underscores the extent to which the turbulence and competing factions that were a hallmark of Trump’s campaign have been transported to the White House.

The broader power struggles within the Trump operation have touched everything from the new administration’s communications shop to the expansive role of the president’s son-in-law to the formation of Trump’s political organization. At the center, as always, is Trump himself, whose ascent to the White House seems to have only heightened his acute sensitivity to criticism.

This account of Trump’s tumultuous first days in office comes from interviews with nearly a dozen senior White House officials and other Trump advisers and confidants, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations and moments.

By most standards, Spicer’s statement Saturday did not go well. He appeared tired and nervous in an ill-fitting gray pinstripe suit. He publicly gave faulty facts and figures — which he said were provided to him by the Presidential Inaugural Committee — that prompted a new round of media scrutiny.

Many critics thought Spicer went too far and compromised his integrity. But in Trump’s mind, Spicer’s attack on the news media was not forceful enough. The president was also bothered that the spokesman read, at times haltingly, from a printed statement.

Trump has been resentful, even furious, at what he views as the media’s failure to reflect the magnitude of his achievements, and he feels demoralized that the public’s perception of his presidency so far does not necessarily align with his own sense of accomplishment.


On Monday, Spicer returned to the lectern, crisply dressed and appearing more comfortable as he parried questions from the press corps.

“There is this constant theme to undercut the enormous support that he has,” he told reporters. “And I think that it’s just unbelievably frustrating when you’re continually told it’s not big enough, it’s not good enough, you can’t win.”

Unlike other senior aides — Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, counselor Kellyanne Conway and senior adviser Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law — Spicer does not enjoy a close and long-standing personal relationship with Trump.

During the campaign, Trump was suspicious of both Priebus and Spicer, who ran the Republican National Committee and were seen as more loyal to the party than to its nominee. Some privately wonder whether Conway is now trying to undermine Spicer.

As Trump thought about staffing his administration following his surprise victory, he hesitated over selecting Spicer as White House press secretary. He did not see Spicer as particularly telegenic and preferred a woman for the position, asking Conway to do it and also considering conservative commentators Laura Ingraham and Monica Crowley — who ultimately stepped down from an administration job because of charges of plagiarism — before settling on Spicer at the urging of Priebus and others.

Yet if there was any doubt over the weekend about Spicer’s standing with the president, it seemed to have been erased by his performance Monday, at least for the moment. Trump told his senior team that he was pleased with Spicer’s more confident and relaxed turn at the lectern.

“His very first briefing as White House press secretary was a tour de force,” Conway said. “He engaged the media, he was respectful and firm, he talked about accountability on a two-way street, he gave facts, he broke news in terms of what the president was doing.”

But tensions and internal power struggles have plagued other parts of Trump’s fledgling orbit, too.

Efforts to launch an outside group supporting Trump’s agenda have stalled amid fighting between Kushner loyalists, such as the campaign’s data and digital strategist Brad Parscale, and conservative donor Rebekah Mercer, according to people familiar with the tensions. Major disputes include who controls the data the outside group would use, with Mercer advocating for Cambridge Analytica, a firm in which her father is invested, and who controls the lucrative contracts with vendors, these people said.

Two people close to the transition also said a number of Trump’s most loyal campaign aides have been alarmed by Kushner’s efforts to elbow aside anyone he perceives as a possible threat to his role as Trump’s chief consigliere. At one point during the transition, Kushner had argued internally against giving Conway a White House role, these two people said.

Because Conway operates outside of the official communications department, some aides grumble that she can go rogue when she pleases, offering her own message and promoting herself as much as the president. One suggested that Conway’s office on the second floor of the West Wing, as opposed to one closer to the Oval Office, was a sign of her diminished standing. Though Conway took over the workspace previously occupied by Valerie Jarrett, who had been Obama’s closest adviser, the confidant dismissively predicted that Trump would rarely climb a flight of stairs.

Yet that assessment may misunderstand the Trump-Conway relationship. The president admires her dogged and fearless defenses of him and respects her on-camera ability to dodge, diffuse and deflect whatever comes her way, according to numerous Trump advisers. On the eve of his inauguration, Trump called Conway on stage at a black-tie dinner to sing her praises.

Trump watched Sunday as Conway sparred with NBC’s Chuck Todd on “Meet the Press.” Some Trump allies were unsettled by her performance, but not the president, according to one official. He called Vice President Pence to rave about how she handled questions from Todd, whom Trump mocked on Twitter as “Sleepy Eyes,” and called Conway to offer his congratulations. Trump was perturbed that the media focused on two words from Conway’s interview: “alternative facts.”

Conway is arguably Trump’s most recognizable aide, which has caused her to receive threats against her life. She has been assigned a Secret Service detail, according to someone with detailed knowledge of the situation.

In perhaps the clearest sign of where the administration’s power center resides, the “Big Four” — Bannon, Conway, Kushner and Priebus — stood in the front row at Sunday afternoon’s swearing-in ceremony for senior staffers, in the White House’s East Room.

Conway herself said that while the advisers sometimes disagree, rumors of dissension are overblown. “We’re a cohesive unit,” she said. “The senior team exhibits many of the characteristics President Trump has always valued: cohesion, collaboration, high energy and high impact.”

Some Trump insiders have suggested tension between Conway and Priebus, but she said that could not be further from the truth. “I really respect the job that Reince is doing most of all,” Conway said. “He has a very good way of choosing battles wisely, which is a hallmark of a real leader and manager.”

Conway said she now hopes to limit her television appearances. Instead, she is taking on an expanded portfolio, which will include health care and veterans’ issues, and Pence — for whom she has worked for years as a pollster — is also expected to carve out more substantive responsibilities for her.

Longtime GOP fundraiser and adviser Fred Malek said that a president benefits from having advisers with distinct perspectives, noting the Ed Meese and Jim Baker debates in the Reagan White House.

“You want to have a robust discussion and you want to have competing points of view debated with vigor,” Malek said. “To the extent that results in bruised feelings sometimes, so be it.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... cc48544023

[seemslikeadream]

you know what let's talk about her for a second

I was told it was planned well in advance by the Women's National Democratic Club. Here's a post from August, 2016. http://democraticwoman.org/womens-march-on-washington/

whatever...they both had a hand I guess but this did happen...don't bother me one way or another ...1 million people showed up I'm sure they all would gladly share in it happening


this happened on her Facebook

When she woke up, that number had exploded to 10,000.

Now, more than 100,000 people have registered their plans to attend the Women’s March on Washington in what is expected to be the largest demonstration linked to Donald Trump’s inauguration and a focal point for activists on the left who have been energized in opposing his agenda

[Karmamatterz]

Mac wrote:

I've seen so much of this kind of thing, here and elsewhere. Getting Trump elected has been yet another act of system-legitimizing brilliance. Every liberal in the land is now hoping, "ironically" or not, that the CIA will indulge in some of that good old-fashioned domestic assassination and regime-change.

Hey all, I've been lurking a bit and finally decided to jump in after a few months off. I agree somewhat with Mac. There seems to be this eerie vibe that resonates in what he wrote. SLAD, don't get me wrong, not referring to you at all. But seriously, the 1950's McCarthy anti-commie/Russian thing is out there. Suddenly it's fashionable to be anti-Russian for liberals. I'm laughing so hard at this!

It's super creepy that anybody would suggest the CIA or deep state do anything to our elected ones, bad enough it carries on regularly in other lands.

If no other thread has ever gotten scooped up and anlyzed by the mega filters of the surveillance machine this one will. Lump a few keywords together and the SS will be glued to this discussion. Oops, my tense was off, not when, it's already happened thanks to Obama (and Congress) renewing the Patriot Act. Thanks Barack.

[seemslikeadream]

why do you let Mac off the hook for repeating a falsehood over and over?

Suddenly it's fashionable to post what Mac is posting?

a fucking LIE

I don't know any liberal that is hoping for that ...why is he saying it?

You recommended, "ironically" or not, that the CIA "do something" about this guy Spicer apparently having committed the terrible crime of being coached to speak to the press:

Spicer has their first names down it seems all of a sudden. Coached, at least to a degree and had to bone up overnight -- reason being he didn't know their names yesterday. Hey, CIA, do something.

I've seen so much of this kind of thing, here and elsewhere. Getting Trump elected has been yet another act of system-legitimizing brilliance. Every liberal in the land is now hoping, "ironically" or not, that the CIA will indulge in some of that good old-fashioned domestic assassination and regime-change.

The Overton Window has shifted about five miles out to the right.

nice to see you back again




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[Karmamatterz]

I don't need to call him out, you're already doing a fine job.

I was alarmed I agreed with Mac! Just messing with you Mac.

I wrote there is a eerie vibe, which is far from using any facts. It was just my feelz.

The whole thing is a shit show spectacle, which is why I stopped reading RI just before the election. Looks like I did miss some good threads. Nordic almost got banned again! Shocking he got chewed out by the principal. In my delirious state of mind after barely being recovered from a shitty bout with the flu I almost in haste applauded him for calling out AD. Then realized it would have been in bad taste and I would have gotten called down the to the principals office too. If this were a Catholic environment it would surely have been Sister Mary Elephant and not Principal Wombat.
Thankfully my fever finally broke. Now my whole fam is puking too. The most hilarious part of when I started puking was that it began just before Drumpf was sworn in on Friday. I literally could not stomach turning on the boob tube.