The Mind controlled slaves flip out

[marmot]

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[Shoogie]

Well, now we know where JonBenet would be today

On a funnier note how about that miss America contestant Tara Conner who almost lost her crown
due to her past abuse of cocaine and alcohol.Something told me that wasn't all she was into.

She looks so wholesome with all american values in this pic. What a joke



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[marmot]

from FOXNews.com: Miss USA Tara Conner Hints at Child Abuse

The newly rehabilitated beauty queen, who has just come out of a drug and alcohol treatment center after her wild partying nearly cost her the Miss USA title in December, hinted at the abuse when said she had confronted someone who had "betrayed" her as a little girl.

"Beauty is a world betrayed."

[erosoplier]

and a quote from Milan Kundera's The Unbearable Lightness of Being:

"Beauty is a world betrayed."

Marmot, Unbearable Lightness is one of my favourite movies, but I've never read the book. I'm intrigued by that quote - "Beauty is a world betrayed" - what does it mean? I've thought about it for a day, but nothing comes.

(Now if you were my school-teacher, I'd fully expect the enthusiastic response "Well you'll have to read the book to find out, won't you!?" But that is due largely to the peculiar strain of sadism which beats in the heart of modern teaching theory. I won't accept the "It's in your own best interests that I don't tell you" excuse from you. You'll have to come up with something different. "I'm not in the mood" would be sufficient. Just don't try claiming that you have my best interests at heart if you refuse to give me your opinion on it. OK?

In fact, look at it this way: I ain't going out to buy the book anytime soon, you can count on that. So maybe, just maybe, if you give me your opinion on what the statement in question means, I might be inspired to go out and read the book. Maybe. OK?

So how about it Marmot?

How about it?)

[marmot]

I'm intrigued by that quote - "Beauty is a world betrayed" - what does it mean?

erosoplier, honestly, I'm not at all certain what it means. However, is it not a most wonderful and lovely quote?

I'll bet that Milan Kundera didn't even know what he meant, what he was signifying when he wrote it. If I remember right (`cause I read the book way back in 91), the sentence in context was awkward, seemed he just threw it in there.

Francis Bacon in his essay of beauty wrote how "There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion." And this would be true for this quote as well, thrown strangely into the middle of The Unbearable Lightness of Being.

The french poet Yves Bonnefoy wrote "Ayant aime le signe, faute du sens / Having loved the sign for want of meaning." Because we can't entirely wrap our minds around this quote, can't exactly pin down the meaning of it, means, at least for me, something wonderful, something wild: it is beyond my ability to capture its essence, to know and define it.

Just because we don't know what it means doesn't mean that it's a meaningless quote,,, only that the meaning is beyond us.

And isn't this perhaps what beauty really teaches us--that, in measures beyond ourselves, it exists for us because it is untouchable, unknowable, can't be tamed or caged. It overwhelms us with the wonderful strangeness of its being. And like the beauty of a wild animal, like a dangerous cat, we try not to get too close, to scare it off, in fact, it is what it is--wild and free--because we can't get at it. When we try to possess it, to know it, to squeeze it into a ball of meaning, it escapes us, we betray it, it gets away from us, we may even kill it. Nikos Kazantzakis says that "Beauty is merciless. You do not look at it, it looks at you."

I know what beauty is... although i never knew her name. It was that red headed girl in her tight sweater world behind the counter at the record shop in Michigan, in 87, when I trembled to pay for my album, to be so close to such a creature. The poet Rilke wrote, "For beauty is nothing but the beginning of terror, which we still are just able to endure, and we are so awed because it serenely disdains to annihilate us."

[Onesmartrat]

Britney shaves her head is overheard to behave irrationally and speak in a flat trance-like tone.

The NASA astrounaut who 'flipped out' is threatened with a long jail sentence

Anna Nicole dies under suspicious circumstances. A look back through film footage of the former playboy star reveals a person clearly switiching into little girl multiple personalities.

Mischa Barton young actress enters rehab along with her little sister. Often rehab is really a cover up for more programming.

Lindsay Lohan leaves the rehab facility called WONDERLAND [Alice programming anyone? ] and starts partying the next night. So what was the point?

Jim Carrey in a CNN interview says: "I feel like I know something-these thoughts make me feel like I'm wearing gold shoes" he is also starring in a movie called the number 23. He says this number follows him around in real life. [!]

Scientology claims two more victims-Jennifer Lopez and her husband Marc Anthony. Posh and her soccer player husband Beckham are not far behind.

Not to mention the crotch flashing of the young starlets that was going on a few months ago

What the hell is going on in with the mind controlled slaves these days?!! Why is their programming kicking up or being kicked up??

BINGO!

WOW ... someone else noticed.

And I though I was alone in a sea of denial ...or was it da Nile? (been there too.)

Yeah, Monarch Slaves often do erratic things like shave their heads and and join trendy cults ...other versions of the real cult to which they belong. All in an effort to "escape" what they are "trained" via high- voltage torture to remember to forget.

Too bad it doesn't really work.

Like a pumped-up, whacked out, super-uber hamster running on the same old wheel, only repainted and freshly carpetted with a new lemony scent.

Been there; done that; got the electric cattle prod scars.

Hmmm, this is a novel thread; good insight; perceptive and with some not so subtle sardonic wit even.

I bet you are well-hated by a more than a few at this darkly lit watering-hole.

lol

-OSR

High-end Monarch Slave
and
Former Two-Time Member of the Shaved-Head Club

[philipacentaur]

I shave my head on a semi-regular basis, but nobody seems to care. I guess I need to hire a better public relations firm?

[anothershamus]

Something about this thread is 'HIGH WEIRDNESS' at it's best. I would like to see the TOTAL BREAKDOWN of ALL the celebrities. The fact that they garner any news attention is a critique of our current state of affairs. More TV and BEER. MMMM.....BEER.....

[erosoplier]

Thank you marmot.

I'm actually starting to get a few ideas now. Maybe they came slowly because they weren't thoroughly polite thoughts?

Beauty is for itself, and nothing else. Beauty, within certain parameters, is universally recognisable. The world owes beauty a debt of recognition, but beauty owes the world nothing.

Attractive couples are more likely to have girls. And they'll likely be beautiful girls. And their beauty will be an adequate substitute for many other qualities.

The consciousness that beauty (alone) cultivates tends to be/cannot help but be thoughtless, careless, inconsiderate.

[marmot]

Where is beauty?
Where I must will with all my will
Where I want to love and perish
That an image may not remain a mere image.
----Nietzsche

[marmot]

I would like to see the TOTAL BREAKDOWN of ALL the celebrities...

anothershamus, i'm not sure what you meant by breakdown. However, here's the Female Celebrity Bald Hall of Fame site.

[marmot]

The world owes beauty a debt of recognition, but beauty owes the world nothing.

"Beauty will save the world."
-----Fyodor Dosoevsky

[anothershamus]

marmot. thanks dude, bald chicks are so HOTTTTTT!!!!!! I wonder if it's because bald is sort of like BALLS, he, he, you said ...bald......he he.....

[blanc]

apropos the APA report - does anyone have any ideas as to why its taken so so long for the psych community to catch on and complain about the sexualisation of children in fashion and media?

[erosoplier]

apropos the APA report - does anyone have any ideas as to why its taken so so long for the psych community to catch on and complain about the sexualisation of children in fashion and media?

Reductionism. Specialisation. Professionalism.

It's not their place to get all "moralistic." They must maintain a space between themselves and their subject matter, between observer and observed. Value judgements are for players, not observers.

Plus

Even the wetter versions of psychology have had trouble finding a strong voice of condemnation. I guess it's fair to say there's been a genuine inability to determine how far is too far. Because the trend over the last 40 years has been towards an easing of taboos re.adolescent sexuality, masturbation etc. some of this easing was sorely needed, but it's all become a bit grotesque in recent years. For example, to say nothing about paedophiles, child beauty pageants are quite grotesque in their own right.

and finally,

follow the money - young tarts are profitable, just like old ones. And "moralising" psychologists don't get grants.