Think Tank floats Gladio-like Black Op Scenarios for Turkey

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Postby chiggerbit » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:05 am

It seems like some less-than-subtle pressure is being applied to the Kurds for some reason, if you ask me. The Kurds have been the favorite Iraqi child of this administration all along, so when I see something like the US considering running operations inside Turkey to help Turkey out with supressing Kurdish guerrillas, and also earlier this summer where it was announced that the US was handing over all responsibility for security operations to the Kurds for three of their provinces possibly pre-maturely (my interpretation), it has me wondering what the heck is going on.

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?optio ... 6&Itemid=1

IRBIL —The Kurdish Regional Government assumed control of security in three provinces from Coalition forces at a ceremony here Wednesday.
U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Benjamin R. Mixon, commander of Multi-National Division-North, and South Korean Maj. Gen. Yoon Young-Bum, commander of Multi-National Division-Northeast, signed a memorandum of understanding with Nechiran Barzoni, prime minister of the KRG, to return control of security to Dahuk, Irbil and Sulaymaniyah provinces in Iraq.

The Kurdish region has set the example for the rest of Iraq, said Mixon.....


http://www.juancole.com/2007/06/fox-new ... adani.html

Al-Sabah publishes on page 5 a 400-word report entitled "Evacuation of Iranian Villages Along Kurdish Borders; Kurdish Government Demands Iraqi Security Forces to defend Borders." .l .




From another RI Turkey/Iraq thread:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 77&start=0
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Postby Gouda » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:13 am

Off the top of my head:

- Turkey poised to invade Iraqi Kurdistan with 100-200,000 troops amassed at the border.
- Israelis operating in Kurdistan, supporting Kurds.
- Various Americans operating everywhere, arming/supporting everyone.
- Turkey controls flow of lots of water to middle east via Attaturk dams located in the southeastern, Kurdish part of Turkey.
- Saudi Arabia recently tried to buy Kirkuk from the Kurds for 2 billion dollars. Offer rejected.
- US working on massive arms deal to "moderate" Arab dictatorships in the middle east.
- Iran and Turkey shelling Kurdish positions near borders in Iraq
- Turkish-Iranian relations strengthening via oil links and contra Kurds
- Turkish-Israeli relations weakening, despite previous alliance agreements with Turkey against Iran.
- Turkey internally split: secular elite military-drug nexus vs. Islamist government.
- US-Turkish relations split by faction.
- CIA, FBI, American Turkish Council, Cohen Group & General Ralston (Lockheed agent) cooperating (or not) with Turkey on PKK issue
- US/Israeli factions discussing (re)partition of middle east, including Turkey, and floating terrorist disaster scenarios within Turkey
- Suspicious recent attacks on Turkish oil pipelines blamed on PKK with no evidence.

And now this:

U.S. checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa, via Jordan

Haaretz article Link

By Amiram Cohen

The United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem.

The Prime Minister's Office, which views the pipeline to Haifa as a "bonus" the U.S. could give to Israel in return for its unequivocal support for the American-led campaign in Iraq, had asked the Americans for the official telegram.

The new pipeline would take oil from the Kirkuk area, where some 40 percent of Iraqi oil is produced, and transport it via Mosul, and then across Jordan to Israel. The U.S. telegram included a request for a cost estimate for repairing the Mosul-Haifa pipeline that was in use prior to 1948. During the War of Independence, the Iraqis stopped the flow of oil to Haifa and the pipeline fell into disrepair over the years.

The National Infrastructure Ministry has recently conducted research indicating that construction of a 42-inch diameter pipeline between Kirkuk and Haifa would cost about $400,000 per kilometer. The old Mosul-Haifa pipeline was only 8 inches in diameter.

National Infrastructure Minister Yosef Paritzky said yesterday that the port of Haifa is an attractive destination for Iraqi oil and that he plans to discuss this matter with the U.S. secretary of energy during his planned visit to Washington next month. Paritzky added that the plan depends on Jordan's consent and that Jordan would receive a transit fee for allowing the oil to piped through its territory. The minister noted, however, that "due to pan-Arab concerns, it will be hard for the Jordanians to agree to the flow of Iraqi oil via Jordan and Israel."

Sources in Jerusalem confirmed yesterday that the Americans are looking into the possibility of laying a new pipeline via Jordan and Israel. (There is also a pipeline running via Syria that has not been used in some three decades.)

Iraqi oil is now being transported via Turkey to a small Mediterranean port near the Syrian border. The transit fee collected by Turkey is an important source of revenue for the country. This line has been damaged by sabotage twice in recent weeks and is presently out of service.

In response to rumors about the possible Kirkuk-Mosul-Haifa pipeline, Turkey has warned Israel that it would regard this development as a serious blow to Turkish-Israeli relations.

Sources in Jerusalem suggest that the American hints about the alternative pipeline are part of an attempt to apply pressure on Turkey.

Iraq is one of the world's largest oil producers, with the potential of reaching about 2.5 million barrels a day. Oil exports were halted after the Gulf War in 1991 and then were allowed again on a limited basis (1.5 million barrels per day) to finance the import of food and medicines. Iraq is currently exporting several hundred thousand barrels of oil per day.

During his visit to Washington in about two weeks, Paritzky also plans to discuss the possibility of U.S. and international assistance for joint Israeli-Palestinian projects in the areas of energy and infrastructure, natural gas, desalination and electricity.
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Postby chiggerbit » Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:56 pm

So, do you think this one

- Turkish-Israeli relations weakening, despite previous alliance agreements with Turkey against Iran.


has anything to do with the development of this one

U.S. checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa, via Jordan


??????????????
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Postby Gouda » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:33 am

Cross-posted:

The Ha'aretz article above on the Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline is from August 2003. Which presents an interesting timeline of events:

1.) There were stirrings of this BEFORE the Iraq war. From an April 10, 2002 press release: [Jordanian] Gov't denies plans to restart Kirkuk-Haifa oil pipeline

The government categorically denied on Wednesday a news report claiming that officials from Jordan and Israel will meet to discuss the possibility of restarting an old oil pipeline linking oil-rich Iraq with the Israeli port of Haifa on the Mediterranean via Jordan.

Reuters yesterday quoted an Israeli national infrastructure ministry source as saying that both Jordan and Israel will hold meetings to study the prospects of restarting the oil pipeline, known also as IPC, which was shut down 55 years ago.


2.) Ha'aretz article published on Monday, August 25, 2003., and it seems this is an updated version of an earlier Ha'aretz article published on 31st March, 2003:
Infrastructure Minister Paritzky dreams of Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa

3.) The August 25th, 2003 update says this:

"The United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem."

That would date the request at sometime between August 18th-22nd.

4.) The following Guardian article is dated Sunday August 17, 2003:

Terror blast cuts off Iraq's oil pipeline to Turkey on Friday, August 15th, after exports had commenced 2 days before, on August 13th.

Saboteurs have blown up a crude oil export pipeline in northern Iraq, starting a huge oil fire, halting all oil exports to Turkey and starving an economy in shambles of much-needed income to rebuild.

Iraqi oil exports to Turkey had only begun on Wednesday, but the explosion, early on Friday near Baiji, 125 miles north-east of Baghdad, cut them off completely, said acting Iraqi oil minister Thamer al-Ghadaban.



The newly appointed Iraqi police commander vowed to chase the 'group of conspirators', who he said had received money from a 'particular party' which he refused to identify further.


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Postby chiggerbit » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:20 am

bump

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/016549.php

"For those of you who follow Turkish politics, you'll be interested to learn what I take it is the at least somewhat surprising news that Prime Minister Erdogan has renominated (or I guess technically proposed) Abdullah Gul as the next President of Turkey.

Gul's nomination was what precipitated the mini-crisis in Turkey that was resolved by the calling of new elections, which Erdogan's Justice and Development Party won decisively.

My understanding had been that most observers expected that Erdogan, with a renewed popular mandate behind him, would nevertheless make the conciliatory gesture of nominating someone else beside Gul. But apparently that's not the choice he's made."
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Postby Gouda » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:11 am

Dogs foil Turkey bomb 'disaster'
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europ ... index.html

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Authorities thwarted a bombing, possibly timed to coincide with the sixth anniversary of the September 11 attacks, as police found and defused more than 600 pounds of explosives Tuesday in a minibus parked near an Ankara market.

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Yilmaz did not reveal details of the bomb, but Turkish media citing other police sources said sacks of explosives were found, speculating that it could be ammonium nitrate or cheap fertilizer, an ingredient used to make bombs.
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Postby Gouda » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:47 am

US asks Turkey to seek gas alternatives
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Source: Reuters

US officials have said Turkish plans to produce natural gas in Iran should be replaced with projects with other regional suppliers.

The meeting came two days after Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey would not cut its relations with Iran, its second biggest gas supplier.
Turkey plans to invest $3.5 billion in Iran for gas production.

"There is no shortage of gas in the region. The question is developing it in a responsible way with states that are politically stable and responsible to the international community," US Undersecretary of Economic, Energy and Agricultural affairs Reuben Jeffery told a news conference.

He was speaking after attending a conference of around 20 states to discuss how Middle Eastern, Caspian and Central Asian countries could diversify their energy export routes.

Washington has objected to an agreement between its NATO ally Turkey and the Islamic Republic to jointly export gas to Europe.

The US Iran Sanctions Act of 1999 says that if any foreign company invests more than $20 million in Iran's gas and oil sector, they are subject to US sanctions.

When asked if Turkey would face penalties if it continued its investment plans in Iran, US Ambassador to Turkey Ross Wilson told reporters that it was not the time to "go into hypotheticals".

Jeffery said both Turkmen and Kazakh gas had potential as alternatives to Iranian gas.

Neither country has the infrastructure to transport its gas to Turkey. Asked what the best export route was for the gas, Wilson responded "clearly a trans-Caspian pipeline".

Plans to build a trans-Caspian pipeline have been halted because states surrounding the body of water have not come to an agreement over ownership rights of its rich gas resources.

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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:42 am

"There is no shortage of gas in the region. The question is developing it in a responsible way with states that are politically stable and responsible

I guess that rules the US out.
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Postby chiggerbit » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:02 am

I have to wonder if this ridiculous war has cost the US its influence in the world. Here's just two headlines from this week, besides the one posted by Gouda about the US trying to manipulate Turkey:

Russia bolsters ties with Iran

India’s ties with Iran straining alliance with US
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Re: Think Tank floats Gladio-like Black Op Scenarios for Tur

Postby Gouda » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:14 am

18 June 2007:
More details revealed on scandalous meeting

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=114287

The text of the scenario briefly envisions chaotic days for Turkey beginning with a suicide bomber killing 50 people, including tourists, on the pedestrian Beyoğlu Street in İstanbul. ... Beneath this scenario, the invitation text lists brainstorming questions such as: “How would the military operation change if it turns out that the two attacks were not the work of the PKK, but al-Qaeda?”

Today:

Istanbul blast injures at least 15, may be suicide bomb

At least 15 people have been injured in what appears to have been a suicide bomb attack in the centre of Istanbul, Turkish media say.

Police have cordoned off the area around Taksim Square where the blast occurred on Sunday morning.

Television pictures from Taksim Square showed body parts lying on the ground.

No group has said it carried out the attack, but a two-month-old ceasefire by Kurdish rebels was due to expire later on Sunday.

Ambulances have been taking some of the injured to hospital, while medical staff are treating others at the scene.

The blast occurred near the independence monument in Taksim Square, says the BBC's Jonathan Head in Istanbul, near a point where anti-riot police are stationed.

Istanbul police chief Huseyin Capkin said six of the injured were civilians, while nine were policemen.
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Our correspondent says suspicion is likely to fall on Kurdish separatist factions or groups linked to al-Qaeda.

The Kurdish separatist PKK party has carried out bomb attacks in Istanbul in the past, as have extreme left-wing and Islamist groups.

Taksim Square is on the European side of Istanbul and is a popular destination for tourists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11660795
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Re: Think Tank floats Gladio-like Black Op Scenarios for Tur

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:33 pm

Just a thought, One thing I gleaned from working for Persians for a few months recently, is that Iran and Turkey traditionally have had a close relationship.

The redrawn map could be an attempt to break down that sub rosa alliance. It certainly is being considered to limit the power of Turkey (not the first time, think 'sick man' of WW1 fame).

Also possible punishment for daring to send ships to Gaza, etc?
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