Mall Shooting in Omaha 1 Hr After Bush Lvs $raiser in Town

[8bitagent]

Homeland Security employee was at the mall hours before the shooting talking to Westwood Mall officials about improving security in a "post 9/11" world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujqdtcg6sUg

[Dosha]

Interestingly Chertoff when speaking with Napolitano in Arizona chats her up about mall security. This part of his narrative is interesting.

http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1197041144284.shtm
Secretary Chertoff: Let me, first of all, separate out the story sometime earlier we had about the FBI, kind of a general awareness notification on the need to be mindful of security during the holiday season. That’s really a matter of common sense. It’s not a reflection that there’s some specific imminent threat. And of course, the story out of Omaha is not a terrorism-related story. It’s similar to the tragedy we saw in Virginia Tech. We do live in an open society and there are people who are mentally disturbed who will sometimes take violent action. Obviously, the malls are almost all owned by private parties, so a lot of the responsibility for security lies with the private companies that own and operate the malls, and of course local government and local police play a major role as well.

But we have actually been working with the commercial sector over the last couple of years to help upgrade their security, and let me give you some ideas of what we’ve done. This past fall, we held regional training seminars in 12 cities across the country to talk about things like IED and vehicle-borne IED prevention, and soft target awareness. We do work with the Commercial Facilities Sector Security group to talk about best practices and also convey intelligence and information about the kinds of things that are out there.

We also have our protective security advisors who go and visit various facilities. We actually had one, by coincidence, at the mall in question at the time of the incident, discussing reaction to IEDs and what you can do to prevent or reduce your vulnerability to IEDs. We had, again, given over $45,000 to this particular mall as part of a Buffer Zone Protection Plan, which resulted in allowing them to build entrance bollards, portable barriers, and communication systems.

So we are doing a lot with respect to malls, but I do have to say, at the end of the day, the joy of holiday time is the ability to get out in public, and we don’t want to sacrifice the freedom of movement entirely. So we want to have the right balance between putting in some prudent security measures, but also not so confining the ability to enter our commercial retail establishments that people don’t wind up wanting to go to shop. And I think this balance is one we have to achieve in partnership not only with local government and state government, but with the private sector as well...

Apparently our protectors are working with the private mall corporate owners and having seminars to protect all of us is gross to me. The SLC, UT episode earlier this year and Omaha certainly are convenient for DHS to be needed.

[8bitagent]

I sadly forsee Beslan school massacres, IED's, car bombs, mall suicide bombers, and more "spontaneous mass shootings" at schools/malls/offices/sporting events etc after the next "shoe"(9/11 2.0 whatever form it takes) to really get people to bow to fear and martial law.

The reason you didnt see this kind of stuff much, if at all following 9/11(cept for the DC Sniper) is because it wasnt needed. People were being sold fear easily through the media. Now the elites would feel every American, no matter what small city, would feel it.

I believe if there is to be a staged nuclear terror attack, it'd be in Texas possibly, definately high on the possibilities. I also see the government allowing a bunch of Latin American death squads and Hezbollah up from Mexico to reign havoc.

I think it's highly possible...something *something* is triggering a lot of these mass shootings. Especially the ones that come in waves, or the ones with high symbolism attached.

[8bitagent]

Another shooting rampage this week, this one done by a guy who shot up a a Denver area missionary training center then drove 65 miles and killed people at a Megachurch in Colorado Springs.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22174890/

Founded by Rev. Haggard
New Life was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, who was fired last year after a former male prostitute alleged he had a three-year cash-for-sex relationship with him. Haggard, then the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, admitted committing undisclosed "sexual immorality."

The New Life church is one of Colorado's largest with about 10,000 members.

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.legitgov.org/

Chertoff "by coincidence" had security advisor at mall during shooting spree --Memorandum of Agreement Signing and Remarks by Homeland
Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano on Enhanced Driver's Licenses 06 Dec 2007 Question: Mr. Secretary, a question on a different subject relating to the Omaha shooting [Westroads Mall] yesterday. I was wondering if you and the department have any concerns about safety at shopping malls... Secretary Chertoff: This past fall, we held regional training seminars in 12 cities across the country to talk about things like IED and vehicle-borne IED prevention, and soft target awareness... We also have our protective security advisors who go and visit various facilities. We actually had one, by coincidence, at the mall in question at the time of the incident, discussing reaction to IEDs and what you can do to prevent or reduce your vulnerability to IEDs. We had, again, given over $45,000 to this particular mall as part of a Buffer Zone Protection Plan, which resulted in allowing them to build entrance bollards, portable barriers, and communication systems.

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i am deeply saddened at what america is becoming/has become.

today i will ask my son not to go near the mall, as was his usual practice every week, to walk around while i give massages at the local health food store. and it isn't the crazed gunman i fear, it's the goddamn security.
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