DE refuses to admit he got played.

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Postby theeKultleeder » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:18 pm

nomo wrote:
theeKultleeder wrote:The whole thing has a bad vibe and an evil glow. :evil:


Mind games, or kindergarten pranks?

Some people take themselves way too seriously around here.


I don't know.... As I've written before, I avoided the whole Duncan/Blake thing from the outset because to me, it sounded like one of those wild conspiracy-speculation fests that happen here every time there is a big news story; these tend to die down as more information is gathered.

I didn't even look at it until DE was already not participating in the board anymore.

But the posts on Jeff's blog pertaining to this circus, the weird posts here pointing to mysterious websites and mind-fucking movies on youtube, and the whole negative vibe that swirls around DE's game is simply not attractive to me, or even very interesting.

Did you follow the link to the DE forum in the OP at the top of the page? Negativity, negativity, negativity.

Oh, and self-absorption...
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:24 pm

I miss DE.
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Postby nomo » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:35 pm

theeKultleeder wrote:Did you follow the link to the DE forum in the OP at the top of the page? Negativity, negativity, negativity.

Oh, and self-absorption...


No doubt. No, I didn't follow it, because I'm not interested in people's little games. It's hard enough to keep track of the bigger para-political picture without getting bogged down in irrelevant personal attacks.
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Postby FourthBase » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:53 pm

Some people take themselves way too seriously around here.


No, I didn't follow it, because I'm not interested in people's little games. It's hard enough to keep track of the bigger para-political picture without getting bogged down in irrelevant personal attacks.


I guess I should have asked "who"...So who was just taking themselves too seriously, who was it that you were talking about? Because it seemed like you were saying people like me and sunny who are too-seriously furious at this prank crap should chill because they're just kindergarden pranks? Or, were you talking about the people playing the little games who too-seriously thought they were playing deep mind games but were actually just fucking around with kindergarden pranks? If the latter, I think it's the exact opposite, they weren't taking themselves seriously enough.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:54 pm

DE contributed much to this forum, but his Duncan/Blake necromancy is an intellectual and moral obscenity, and when he joined this community to his constellation of paranoia he ceased to be a member of it.
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Postby philipacentaur » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:56 pm

Jeff wrote:DE contributed much to this forum, but his Duncan/Blake necromancy was an intellectual and moral obscenity, and when he joined this community to his constellation of paranoia he ceased to be a member of it.


With all due respect, I believe it was Theresa Duncan herself who kicked that off, Jeff.
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Postby sunny » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:02 pm

philipacentaur wrote:
Jeff wrote:DE contributed much to this forum, but his Duncan/Blake necromancy was an intellectual and moral obscenity, and when he joined this community to his constellation of paranoia he ceased to be a member of it.


With all due respect, I believe it was Theresa Duncan herself who kicked that off, Jeff.


No, Theresa was an admirer of Jeff's blog and he wrote about that and her after her death. Period.

DE accused Jeff and eiAe of being participants in a conspiracy/arg hoaxing of the deaths of Duncan/Blake and the subsequent mind games.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:03 pm

I guess I should clarify my position on departing as the timing is being used by Ty to insinuate yet again that I'm part of the stupid fucking ARG thing. If I indeed ever was a part of it, the only part I played was in trying to extract DE from this quagmire of paranoia, intrigue, and manipulation by multiple individuals/groups.

I honestly don't know what happened to Duncan and Blake. At this point, I don't care about it enough anymore to take notice. Having it insinuated that I was somehow involved in Duncan's death by DE's partner shawnna really irked the fuck out of me, but it pointed out something important, and that's simply that I have become to personally involved in discussions here.

I came here for information, to share and learn, not to end up mired in board politics and agendas, but that's what ended up happening anyways. There's been some problem characters come through RI that I was glad to have helped in dealing with, but it's never been the reason I wanted to be here. Jeff has taken endless flak for me being his 'pitbull', and that's really not fair to him at all, as I've ever spoken my own mind, not his. One aspect of my leaving here is hopefully to give people one less thing to attack Jeff's credibility over. I've been called all kinds of things in my time on 'conspiracy' boards, from a chemtrail debunker to outright CIA.

That shit gets pretty fucking old.

Sometimes, I wonder if people really do make their own realities. If you crave filth and rot in your Universe, you won't stop to listen to a single voice that doesn't agree with what it is you're wanting to see manifest. No sane voice will carry appeal. You want Lizards in power, you'll have em. You want to be a Targeted Individual, you'll see death rays penetrating your home.

Despite some differences in opinion between us, before the TD topic took root, the only person I admired here more than Dream's End was Jeff himself. When all this started up, I smelled shit, not gold, and I tried to push DE into walking away from it seeing what a mess it could lead into, but I guess I went about it the wrong way. Becoming inextricably tangled up in all this bullshit was the last thing I'd ever imagined happening, and it's really dulled my own sense of worth that I let it happen.

There are way more important things going on in this world than what internet blogs think happened to Duncan and Blake. The region I live in is marked with an historic and protracted drought which is only fore casted to expand and worsen. I want to move away, but the predictable effects on my country's economy from 8 years of the current administration leave me all but trapped here unable to afford to relocate. I have a second child to worry about now, and more than ever, what I do with my time needs to count and stand for something significant.

'et in Arcadia ego' has long since become long of tooth. I need the energy I placed in this persona for other things now, and through unfortunate increments, as Arcadia I've maneuvered myself into a entropic corner where I'm no longer comfortable. Hell, I even have people posting as me on blogs now.

I just don't have the time or heart for any of this shit anymore.

I hope things work out for everyone here, DE included. I'm not falling off the face of the Earth or anything, and those that seek me will know where to find me, but it's my express desire to no longer post here again.

Good fortune and strength to everyone,
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Postby FourthBase » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:13 pm

This sucks. Now I'm the only asshole on the board.

Good luck, Et. Do whatever you can.
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:25 pm

'et in Arcadia ego' has long since become long of tooth.


Hehehehe, so phunny!
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Postby Jeff » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:32 pm

et in Arcadia ego wrote:I have a second child to worry about now, and more than ever, what I do with my time needs to count and stand for something significant.


Funny how children can do that.

I read a comment on the blog a while ago that noted a suspicious change in my tone and focus after the birth of my youngest. The natural assumption was that I had either become mind controlled or been replaced.

I wrestle every day with the significance and the health of what I do, and the growing lags between posts partly reflect that. Also, the Duncan and Blake deaths took the wind out of me, which I think was the best thing in the circumstance, because there's too many bloggers full of wind as it is. It was ugly watching DE pump himself up like Mr Creosote on all that emptiness, but that was his choice.

I'd say you always have a home here, Donovan, but you know where your home is. But you do have friends here who wish you well.
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Postby theeKultleeder » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:04 pm

I think we've all had a dose of taking ourselves too seriously lately. I certainly hope I haven't screwed things up with my weird and wild self. People have been mentioning a "change" here for a little while.

Maybe we can talk about UFOs and stuff a little more; I still like this post of Jeff's:


Author,Author wrote:Some things - some stories, places, and names - are simply strange attractors. Invoking them is to create a gravity well, a distortion of reality, in which everything else seems to run towards them...

That's precisely the kind of plausibly weird synchronicity the universe loves to toss back at us when we dwell on such things. But in such cases, the strangeness is greater than the sum of the conspirators, unless we regard the universe as a co-conspirator. And perhaps we should.

http://rigint.blogspot.com/search?q=+Author%2C+Author
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Postby Sweet Tooth » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:13 pm

God damnit. It will suck to lose you, EIAE. You're one of the best posters here.

Here's hoping your departure will be more of a sabbatical than a retirement.

Sincerely,
yer old pal Jerky / aka / Sweet Tooth
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Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:09 pm

I must say I didn't follow this very closely, but without jumping to conclusions the possibility of foul play in the deaths of these two artists remains real. I have no clue about ARG's, and next to no clue about structuralism and post structuralism.

I do feel very sorry for the way DE was "played," especially by our very own not-so-dear Brownzeroed. Frankly, I never liked him. He would almost always play the debunker. The stuff about Guy deBord was interesting though.

DE was a fine poster here. I don't really understand why he was banned.

Its a shame to see Et go though, although I had noticed a change in him from substantive posting to more sarcastic one liners ala the likes of philipacentaur, orz and nomo. In other words, not terribly constructive. Still, I wish you well Donovan, especially with the kids. Take care man.

I do miss DE though. Even if he was a bit knee-jerk on the issue of "zionism," I did enjoy reading his work on the "spooky" origins of certain "New Age," organisations. Oh well, I daresay that new talented posters (like say, 8bitagent, populistindependant, vanlose kid or American Dream) will emerge to take the places of those who have left.

The only thing is, where do we all go when Jeff closes down the board?
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