Nonlethal Weapons Could Target Brain, Mimic Schizophenia

[OP ED]

Well, while I think it's far-fetched at this point in time to attribute this sort of schizophrenic behavior to nefarious conspiracies, those who are questioning how you could follow someone as they drove and moved about need look no farther than the Garmin GPS device on their dashboards.

Or the GPS device which now exists inside everybody's cell phone.

I'm to tired to look it up now, but it's been suggested in the past that such technology could be used via satellite.

Pretty easy to follow people around now, what with RFID chip technology being what it is as well. They even have RFID chips in "powder" form. They can just sprinkle the shit on you:

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-F ... ewsNum=939

By the way, Elfsmiles, GREAT article. I just spent a whole ton of time reading it and checking out many of your links. I could spent a lot more time there. Awesome job.

You could use a satellite to bounce it right off a cell phone signal actually.

The other problem being that our theory is probably way behind curve here. Anything with a corporate use is declassified as far as governments would be concerned and also obsolete, maybe by as much as twenty years. They also don't share their theory.

I'm only just now starting to see trickles of RV studies being done to corroborate and exonerate very old declassified stargatetype shit. Where do you go from that in twenty years. Hell, you could follow a driver with a Remote Viewer, according to PBS anyway. And you could do it AFTER your mission already succeeded.

Creepy.

[elfismiles]

Well, while I think it's far-fetched at this point in time to attribute this sort of schizophrenic behavior to nefarious conspiracies, those who are questioning how you could follow someone as they drove and moved about need look no farther than the Garmin GPS device on their dashboards.

Or the GPS device which now exists inside everybody's cell phone.

I'm to tired to look it up now, but it's been suggested in the past that such technology could be used via satellite.

Pretty easy to follow people around now, what with RFID chip technology being what it is as well. They even have RFID chips in "powder" form. They can just sprinkle the shit on you:

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-F ... ewsNum=939

By the way, Elfsmiles, GREAT article. I just spent a whole ton of time reading it and checking out many of your links. I could spent a lot more time there. Awesome job.

Thanks Nordic!

And I agree with your GPS sat track suggestion.

RFIDs are also an option nowadays ... as you suggest.

[American Dream]

Nordic wrote:

Well, while I think it's far-fetched at this point in time to attribute this sort of schizophrenic behavior to nefarious conspiracies, those who are questioning how you could follow someone as they drove and moved about need look no farther than the Garmin GPS device on their dashboards.

Or the GPS device which now exists inside everybody's cell phone.

I'm to tired to look it up now, but it's been suggested in the past that such technology could be used via satellite.

Pretty easy to follow people around now, what with RFID chip technology being what it is as well. They even have RFID chips in "powder" form. They can just sprinkle the shit on you:

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-F ... ewsNum=939

Now we are getting somewhere! I agree with Nordic that we should not presume something other than mental disturbance without good evidence, but here we are getting closer to what might be possible with known technologies. GPS in cars and cell phones- sure. Cell phone towers are indeed an obvious technology that could interface with satellites.

Implanted biochips, not too hard, but you need a power source to transmit. Don't RFID chips need a very close reader?

"Seeing through walls" is not too hard, but "reading thoughts" is. Reading general moods is definitely possible if the brain in question is by a scanner...

If STARGATE-type psychics fit into the equation, that is another question, but who are we going to trust in that regard? The military spooks who participated in the program? Fat chance, as the field is rife with disinformation...

[starviego]

The evidence that you cite could be evidence of "paranoid schizophrenia", "command hallucinations" and/or electromagnetic mind control. The problem is: How do you tell the difference?

Some points:

1) From what I understand, schizophrenia is a disease whose onset is typically in late puberty, meaning late teens to early 20s. I've never heard of a 15yr old schizophrenic.

2) Schizophrenics by and large are no more violent than the rest of the population. They call it 'paranoid' schizophrenia because the voices tell the victim that people are after him, not that the voices are telling him to kill innocent people.

3) A true schizophrenic would likely have given off numerous indicators of delusions by his odd behavior before escalating to violence; this is absent in the school shooter, whose behavior often comes as a great surprise to those who knew him.

4) Very few of the surviving school shooters have been committed to a mental institution; the most are doing hard time in prisons.


ps
Not sure what you mean by 'command hallucinations.'



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The two satellite theory:

"When (Investgator)Bolsted asked Kip(Kinkel, school shooter), "Where do you think the voices came from?" Kip replied, "Well, I had some theories. Maybe it was from the devil... the government might have put a chip in my head. Government satellites might have transmitted to the chip.... At first I thought the voices were outside of my head because they were so very loud, like surround sound." Kip also claimed he believed one satellite gave voices to the microchip and another followed his every movement."

[American Dream]

starviego wrote:

Not sure what you mean by 'command hallucinations.'

Command hallucinations are a psychopathology wherein a person hear's voices in their head that order them to do things.

>AD

P.S. I like your ideas for beginning to sort out electromagnetic mind control from simple mental illness!

[blanc]

the question of targeting would have to be examined in detail in each individual case - ie how might it have been possible to get close enough to an individual with what kind of equipment, to even begin to give credence to the idea that individuals might have been targeted to become killers. my limited experience of people who hear voices, generally threatening and derogatory btw, is that though the voices seem real enough to them for it to be easy for them to either spontaneously arrive at the idea that they are real and emmanating from a person they can see in the environment who can, they assume, transmit direct to their brain, or to fall eagerly on that suggestion if they come across material which suggests this is possible. but in those cases I've known, the arrival of voices is linked rather to stress situations, and happens not only when they are in easy to access places or following their routine and usual routes, but in situations where the posited communication would only be possible if extraordinary powers had been developed. one then has to ask, were such powers to be available, why would they be used to disrupt the life of this or that nobody, rather than to, for example, make a killing on the stock exchange, or devastate a political opponent.

[starviego]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It sounds like the people you are talking about are genuinely mentallly ill.

[brainpanhandler]

the question of targeting would have to be examined in detail in each individual case - ie how might it have been possible to get close enough to an individual with what kind of equipment, to even begin to give credence to the idea that individuals might have been targeted to become killers. my limited experience of people who hear voices, generally threatening and derogatory btw, is that though the voices seem real enough to them for it to be easy for them to either spontaneously arrive at the idea that they are real and emmanating from a person they can see in the environment who can, they assume, transmit direct to their brain, or to fall eagerly on that suggestion if they come across material which suggests this is possible. but in those cases I've known, the arrival of voices is linked rather to stress situations, and happens not only when they are in easy to access places or following their routine and usual routes, but in situations where the posited communication would only be possible if extraordinary powers had been developed. one then has to ask, were such powers to be available, why would they be used to disrupt the life of this or that nobody, rather than to, for example, make a killing on the stock exchange, or devastate a political opponent.

How would we know they're not being used in that fashion? And why either/or? Nobodies have their uses as well. I mean arguably Oswald, Hinckley, Chapman, Ray, Sirhan Sirhan, Holmes, Lanza, etc ... they were all nobodies. Perhaps nobodies are in fact uniquely suited candidates. And perhaps candidates are chosen to some extent based on psychological evaluations which mark them as vulnerable to voice to skull command hallucinations. While full blown schizophrenia (spectrum disorder) is rare to nonexistent in adolescence, nonetheless there might be congenital markers, symptoms and predispositions. If candidates are chosen for their psychological predisposition to suggestibility and those set of criteria overlap significantly with early signs of schizophrenia then that further blurrs the line between the two, theoretically.