Experts: Sirhan Sirhan Did Not Kill RFK

[IanEye]

Sadly, there doesnt appear to be much known about the MLK conspiracy

[8bitagent]

Sadly, there doesnt appear to be much known about the MLK conspiracy

Excellent, Ive greatly enjoyed seeing the youtube talks by Mr Pepper, and Im glad in 1999 he was able to galvanize reopening the MLK killing in the mainstream.

I just meant we dont see a lot of articles, documentaries, etc on the subject. It almost seems Pepper is one of the lone researchers...but unlike anyone in the field, he of course has very personal reasons for it.

I wish there could be a full length documentary based on his research

[FourthBase]

The more verified the conspiracy, the less publicity I guess.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The more verified the conspiracy, the less publicity I guess.

The FBI murder of MLK is particularly quited because the anger of urban blacks scares the crap out of the USG.

When cities exploded into violence during summer 1967 the National inSecurity institutions thought it was the beginning of the end for 'Murica so drastic Gestapo tactics were used to stomp out domestic organizations, including killing MLK.

Now that Katrina has added to the USG crimes against black folks, the media managers are really treading gingerly on that old killing the black messiah thing.

I wonder what Obama is going to say on the 40th anniversary, April 4th...not much, I'll bet, since he just dealt with the 'Reverand Wright' fracas.

Hmmm.

I wonder if making Obama have to process Wright's hot comments just before the MLK murder anniversary was timed to make him wary of any more hot race comments in the campaign...a little pre-emptive sensitization....

[OP ED]

The more verified the conspiracy, the less publicity I guess.

The FBI murder of MLK is particularly quited because the anger of urban blacks scares the crap out of the USG.

When cities exploded into violence during summer 1967 the National inSecurity institutions thought it was the beginning of the end for 'Murica so drastic Gestapo tactics were used to stomp out domestic organizations, including killing MLK.

Now that Katrina has added to the USG crimes against black folks, the media managers are really treading gingerly on that old killing the black messiah thing.

I wonder what Obama is going to say on the 40th anniversary, April 4th...not much, I'll bet, since he just dealt with the 'Reverand Wright' fracas.

Hmmm.

I wonder if making Obama have to process Wright's hot comments just before the MLK murder anniversary was timed to make him wary of any more hot race comments in the campaign...a little pre-emptive sensitization....

sometimes I don't get you Hugh, but I've actually wondered about the Rev. Wright thing myself. Although I must admit, it could be just coincidental political mudslinging. Evil is hard to tell apart from evil sometimes.

[8bitagent]

Reverend Wright seems like he'd fit right alongside many of our deep para politic views and understanding of the world here at RI...

yet it was interesting to watch BOTH the liberals and the right wingers in America rip him apart. More proof the left/right in America is a total sham.

I wish there were more Reverend Wrights, Cynthia Mckinneys, etc

Last time we really saw the black American consciousness wake up to the pure evil of the USG tactics was the CIA-cocaine flap in 1996.

[compared2what?]

Framing. Perpetuating conventional assumptions. You know.

I don't see the intent you see. Basically, unless the mainstream media headline were exactly "Scientists claim Sirhan Sirhan did not kill RFK", it's going to be loaded with conventional assumptions, intentionally or not. Or you'll claim to perceive it that way, anyway. I think the thought of there being a "2nd shooter" is pretty damn unconventional enough. If someone entertains the conspiracy-required notion of a 2nd shooter, then for that someone entertaining the thought of Sirhan being a patsy isn't going to be made more foreign, it's going to be made more believable. And again, if he fired any kind of round whatsoever, then technically he was a shooter.

The fact he was just there makes him involved innocent or not, as to me theres no question he was mind controlled.

Sadly, there doesnt appear to be much known about the MLK conspiracy

8bitagent, on what planet do you live? There was an almost month-long trial about the MKL conspiracy, in which a jury of twelve men and women found that there had been one. In 1999. Almost ten years ago.

Are you sad that the role of the Satanic coven that has been controlling all major world events throughout all of the echoing millennia of history (currently officially headquartered at the United Nations Plaza) wasn't exposed? I don't understand you at all. You often say you have done a lot of research into this, that, or the other. What kind of research is that, exactly?

[8bitagent]

Framing. Perpetuating conventional assumptions. You know.

I don't see the intent you see. Basically, unless the mainstream media headline were exactly "Scientists claim Sirhan Sirhan did not kill RFK", it's going to be loaded with conventional assumptions, intentionally or not. Or you'll claim to perceive it that way, anyway. I think the thought of there being a "2nd shooter" is pretty damn unconventional enough. If someone entertains the conspiracy-required notion of a 2nd shooter, then for that someone entertaining the thought of Sirhan being a patsy isn't going to be made more foreign, it's going to be made more believable. And again, if he fired any kind of round whatsoever, then technically he was a shooter.

The fact he was just there makes him involved innocent or not, as to me theres no question he was mind controlled.

Sadly, there doesnt appear to be much known about the MLK conspiracy

8bitagent, on what planet do you live? There was an almost month-long trial about the MKL conspiracy, in which a jury of twelve men and women found that there had been one. In 1999. Almost ten years ago.

Are you sad that the role of the Satanic coven that has been controlling all major world events throughout all of the echoing millennia of history (currently officially headquartered at the United Nations Plaza) wasn't exposed? I don't understand you at all. You often say you have done a lot of research into this, that, or the other. What kind of research is that, exactly?

And yet, ask the average person...ney, ask the average lefty activist about this. I remember it. You remember it. Yet most don't. Hell it was confirmed today that the anthrax came from the government labs, yet noone even notices.

The "JFK was a CIA job" meme is only accepted by most people because of the JFK movie.

All I'm saying, is I'd love for a documentary on this trial and William Pepper's research to come out as we've seen for JFK and RFK respectively.

[compared2what?]

In that case, I misread you, for which I apologize.

[annie aronburg]

All I'm saying, is I'd love for a documentary on this trial and William Pepper's research to come out as we've seen for JFK and RFK respectively.

While not as titillating as masonic sorcery or child slavery, perhaps this is an "RI topic or theme" you could incorporate into your film project?

Annie A.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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The "JFK was a CIA job" meme is only accepted by most people because of the JFK movie.

Actually, this conventional wisdom set in when New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison prosecuted Clay Shaw for being part of the JFK conspiracy from 1967-1969.

The Operation Mockingbird media went wild discrediting Garrison as an opportunistic kook but it was obvious to many that there was a big cover-up going on.

Even more Americans picked up this anti-CIA suspicion in the mid-1970s as the Church and Pike Committee Hearings rolled into the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

This expose period didn't really settle down until Lennon was assassinated and Reagan was installed.

Then the 25th anniversay of Dealey Plaza came in 1988, right in the shadow of IranContra. And Jim Garrison put his book that Oliver Stone's 'JFK' was based on, 'On the Trail of the Assassins.'

All of which is to say there was lots for 'JFK' to resonate by 1992.

[8bitagent]

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The "JFK was a CIA job" meme is only accepted by most people because of the JFK movie.

Actually, this conventional wisdom set in when New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison prosecuted Clay Shaw for being part of the JFK conspiracy from 1967-1969.

The Operation Mockingbird media went wild discrediting Garrison as an opportunistic kook but it was obvious to many that there was a big cover-up going on.

Even more Americans picked up this anti-CIA suspicion in the mid-1970s as the Church and Pike Committee Hearings rolled into the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

This expose period didn't really settle down until Lennon was assassinated and Reagan was installed.

Then the 25th anniversay of Dealey Plaza came in 1988, right in the shadow of IranContra. And Jim Garrison put his book that Oliver Stone's 'JFK' was based on, 'On the Trail of the Assassins.'

All of which is to say there was lots for 'JFK' to resonate by 1992.

Yeah youre right. Heck in Woody Allen's Annie Hall, theres a part in the 1976 classic where he cant sleep, because hes trying to figure out the conspiracy in his head.
In the 60's they had a kind of "was JFK an inside job?" series of debates and news on the mainstream media. Like real debates
Just like they did in Russia after Putin's FSB staged those "Chechyn" attacks

Could you imagine if in America we had serious, moderated "was 9/11 an inside job" debates on tv? What a different time it was back then, and the post watergate world opened up a can of worms.

Sadly we just don't see too much questioning in the mainstream or liberal/conservative water cooler other than "the government lied/stole election/is incompetent" generic safe pap.