DC Madam possibly commits suicide in Tarpon Springs

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Re: methodology

Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 01, 2008 3:23 pm

km artlu wrote:For those of you who haven't seen the film "Michael Clayton", aside from its other merits it contains a scene of a troublesome man being disposed of which is very instructive.

For those occasions (fewer as the dumbing-down proceeds) in which multiple head-shots make for an awkward "suicide", a subcontracting black ops team such as the one portrayed in that movie is the way to go.

It is the matter-of-fact professionalism and proficiency of it which is uniquely chilling, and all the more believable for those qualities.

So true, Sunny, re: "the deplorable state of the media".


I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT MICHAEL CLAYTON SCENE! <shivers>

What a brilliant film -just saw it a few days ago.

It is the matter-of-fact professionalism and proficiency of it which is uniquely chilling, and all the more believable for those qualities.
Spot on , km artlu
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu May 01, 2008 3:23 pm

Does anyone have the Ales Jones interview that is not have a infowars link? Or the transcript
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Re: methodology

Postby IanEye » Thu May 01, 2008 3:47 pm

Searcher08 wrote:I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT MICHAEL CLAYTON SCENE! <shivers>

What a brilliant film -just saw it a few days ago.


someone on this board was commenting a while back that they didn't like this film, "Michael Clayton".

i am trying to remember Hugh it was.....
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Postby nomo » Thu May 01, 2008 4:08 pm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... dicted.htm

DC Madam Predicted She Would Be Suicided
"Rape, beating, maiming, disfigurement and more than likely murder
disguised in the form of just another jailhouse accident or suicide
would await me," Palfrey wrote



DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey predicted she would be "suicided" on
several occasions both recently and as far back as 17 years ago -
comments that now appear ominous in light of the announcement that the
former head of a Washington escort service allegedly killed herself
today.

"If taken into custody, my physical safety and most probably my very
life would be jeopardized," she wrote in August 1991 following an
attempt to bring her to trial, "Rape, beating, maiming, disfigurement
and more than likely murder disguised in the form of just another
jailhouse accident or suicide would await me," said Palfrey in a
handwritten letter to the judge accusing the San Diego police vice
squad of having a vendetta against her.

During several recent appearances on The Alex Jones Show, Palfrey also
said that she was at risk of being killed and that authorities would
make it look like suicide. She made it clear that she was not suicidal
and if she was found dead it would be murder.

Palfrey had threatened to release the names of well-known clients of
her upscale call girl ring in the nation's capitol, and had indicated
that Dick Cheney may be one of them.

"No I'm not planning to commit suicide," Palfrey told The Alex Jones
Show on her last appearance, "I'm planning on going into court and
defending myself vigorously and exposing the government," she said.
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Postby Endomorph » Thu May 01, 2008 4:17 pm

I heard about this and I was like "I gotta go see what people are saying about this on the Rigint boards" -- but I was afraid y'all would pass up commenting on it cause it's too damn obvious, kind of a shooting fish in a barrel situation.
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Postby sunny » Thu May 01, 2008 4:30 pm

Endomorph:
I was afraid y'all would pass up commenting on it cause it's too damn obvious, kind of a shooting fish in a barrel situation.


We have to be careful with those damn shooting fish in a a barrel.

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Postby jingofever » Thu May 01, 2008 4:41 pm

According to Dan Moldea:

"She wasn't going to jail, she told me that very clearly. She told me she would commit suicide," author Dan Moldea told TIME soon after news broke of her body being found in Tarpon Springs, Florida, an apparent suicide. Palfrey's body, along with a handwritten suicide note, was discovered by police in a storage area attached to her mother's mobile home. Palfrey contacted Moldea last year to provide her help writing a book. "She had done time once before [for prostitution]," Moldea recalls. "And it damn near killed her. She said there was enormous stress — it made her sick, she couldn't take it, and she wasn't going to let that happen to her again."

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According to Moldea, who last year examined Palfrey's phone records and discovered the name of Vitter, a Republican, as a client of Palfrey's escort servie — Pamela Martin & Associates — the last time he saw Palfrey in person was less than week before her conviction on prostitution charges on April 15. "A friend and I met with Jeanne and we had a sushi lunch near the courtroom," he said. "She was upbeat and hopeful. She felt the prosecution had not made the case and that she was going to walk. She was hopeful to the end." But, when the jury came in with her conviction, she reportedly was taken aback. "When I heard that I knew that, for her, it was all over. There is no question in my mind that she took her own life."

According to Joseph Cannon:

I do not trust Dan Moldea. I like some of his works (especially Dark Victory), but I can't say that he is on my "most trusted" list.

I know from a first-hand source -- whom I will name, if legally pressed -- that Dan Moldea had privately complained that the major publishers had "blackballed" him after he wrote a book called Interference: How Organized Crime Influences Professional Football. The blackballing stopped the moment he agreed to write a book about the Robert F. Kennedy assassination pushing the "lone nut" hypothesis.


According to Gary Buell:

For the record, Joseph Cannon is not an asshat.
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Postby sunny » Thu May 01, 2008 4:52 pm

After reading his RFK book, I wouldn't trust Moldea as far as I could throw him.

Have you ever read it? It's incredible. He spends 3/4 of the book making a solid case for conspiracy, specifically for Thane Eugene Ceasar (sp?) being the shooter. Almost at the last minute, after a dubious lie detector test, he's suddenly convinced that Sirhan was the killer. Suspicious in the extreme and the reader is left with the unavoidable impression that he was either bought off or intimidated.

Perfect person to make a statement to Time, assuring us all that Palfrey offed herself. He's nominally a "conspiracy buff" in the eyes of the mainstream, so if he says so it must be true.
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Postby professorpan » Thu May 01, 2008 5:25 pm

For what it's worth, here's what CNN says:

Prosecutors estimated that she would have received a sentence between 57 and 71 months, about six years, because of sentencing guidelines and other factors that would have been taken into account.

"I'm looking at 55 years in a federal penitentiary, and at my age, that is virtually a life sentence," Palfrey told CNN Radio in March. "Realistically, we estimate between eight and 15 years. I'm also looking at the complete forfeiture of my entire life savings and work."

Palfrey told ABC News last year that she would never return to prison after serving time in the 1990s for other prostitution-related charges. "I sure as heck am not going to be going to federal prison for one day, let alone, you know, four to eight years."


Though it does seem fishy, it's certainly feasible that someone would commit suicide before going to jail. A friend of mine made that choice several years ago.
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu May 01, 2008 5:38 pm

Motherfuckers.
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Postby justdrew » Thu May 01, 2008 5:42 pm

ok, with such a sure target... IF we had a real opposition movement in this country, we would have had multiple discrete body guards around her 24x7. Just think of how AWESOME it would have been to catch the fucker(s) who did it live and in person.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu May 01, 2008 6:41 pm

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 89x3233420

The Palfrey-Cheney Connection
Posted by npincus on Thu May-01-08 05:33 PM

Palfrey faced up to 55 years in prison for money-laundering, sentencing scheduled for July 24. Her defense attorney, Preston Burton, said she planned to appeal. Why would she kill herself with an appeal pending? She has an aged mother with a heart condition; why would she she choose to hang herself with the likelihood her ailing mom would find her like that? Palfrey was a fighter- again, why would she give up with her appeal pending?

Palfrey believed her life could be in danger, and stated that it would not be suicide if she were found dead; she said so on a radio program along with implicating that the VP himself, and other extremely powerful, high-profile men in Washington were clients. LISTEN: http://freepress.org/radio/theprogressi ... 252007.mp3

Is it possible that facing of a 55-year sentence, Ms. Palfrey was going to do some talking, in hopes of a reduced sentence? Were some persons concerned that an angry or vindictive Palfrey might write tell-all?




*The investigative reporter is not supposed to be posted at DU (considered dubious source) so name "redacted" (***). Mods, please allow; the only way for any of this to get a hearing and Ms. Palfrey to get justice is not to bury it Something is seriously fishy here.


http://mparent7777-1.livejournal.com/18638.html

D.C. Madame Predicted Being Suicided

"If taken into custody, my physical safety and most probably my very life would be jeopardized," she wrote. "Rape, beating, maiming, disfigurement and more than likely murder disguised in the form of just another jailhouse accident or suicide would await me."



http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1517

May 8, 2007 -- Cheney on DC Madam's list. Yesterday, *** reported on the DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey's list: "*** has been informed that the CEO of a major corporation is a former CEO but, nonetheless, the aforementioned extremely high-level official of the Bush administration. The individual, who is definitely "newsworthy," reportedly engaged the services of Palfrey's escort firm while he was the CEO and maintained a residence off Chain Bridge Road in the Ballantrae neighborhood in McLean, Virginia, a few blocks from the headquarters of the CIA."

Cheney "X'd" off the DC Madam's list by ABC/Disney.

*** has confirmed with extremely knowledgeable CIA and Pentagon sources that the former CEO who is on Deborah Jeane Palfrey's list is Vice President Dick Cheney. Cheney was CEO of Halliburton during the time of his liaisons with the Pamela Martin & Associates escort firm. Palfrey's phone invoices extend back to 1996 and include calls to and from Cheney. Ironically, in 2000 Cheney was appointed by Bush to head his Vice President selection committee, a task that enabled Cheney to gather detailed personal files on a number of potential candidates, including Bill Frist, George Pataki, John Danforth, Fred Thompson, Chuck Hagel, John Kasich, Chris Cox, Frank Keating, Tom Ridge, Colin Powell, and Jim Gilmore, before he selected himself as the vice presidential candidate.

The White House saw to it that ABC/Disney killed the DC Madam's story before yet another scandal swamped the Bush administration. Cheney is departing Washington today for a trip to the Middle East, where he will visit the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and the USS John C. Stennis in the Gulf.





http://bigheaddc.com/2007/05/24/more-on ... connection /

May 24, 2007-- Well, lookie, lookie, Roll Call, Politico and Wonkette all served up items yesterday that mentioned the possibility that Dick Cheney used the services of Deborah Jeane Palfrey’s escort service in the 1990s. But little credit was given to ***, the investigative reporter who first blew the lid off the story (which we’ve followed in some, um, interesting dominatrix-inspired directions). We’ve already detailed how the mainstream media has often stolen his goods. Today, we catch up with him on his scoop.

*** tells Big Head DC that he first started hearing over two weeks ago that Dick Cheney might be involved. His first source had has strong ties to the Democratic party; he’s since had confirmation from individuals associated with the CIA and with the Pentagon. He says that all his sources are “trustworthy” and “inside the game.”

“If Dick Cheney thought there would never be ‘blow back’ from his attempt to discredit the CIA, he was very wrong.” according to the reporter. “He should have remembered that when he lived in Ballantrae in McLean in the 1990s, and was a neighbor of the CIA, some of his activities may have come to the attention of the agency and its employees, especially since he was a former Defense Secretary and President and CEO of a major oil services company.”

***, you can bet, will continue to follow this developing story.


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http://prissypatriot.blogspot.com/2007/ ... jeane.html

Wednesday June 27, 2007-Dearest Readers, what an interesting interview with Ms Deborah Jeane Palfrey. Forgive the non-edited version, we need Ray-the-tech-guy to help. Prissy is all thumbs with audio editing and Betty is too.

<snip>

Ms. Palfrey also explains why she thinks ABC dropped the ball and canceled the story. There are the phone numbers of approximately 10,000 clients on "the list".

Some are very powerful men, obviously. Lot's of them. Like maybe 100 of the top level military and senior government officials in this country-many currently holding top level security clearances.

The problem is not so much buying sexual fantasy talk, the problem is men who indulge in this sort of paid play are very susceptible to blackmail. Especially the ones spouting to the world about their own "family values."

<snip>

*** was right-listen to Ms. Palfrey and hear for yourself that Vice President DICK CHENEY is likely on the list...how recently, you ask?

Well, Prissy cannot give you times and dates-not yet anyway, but know this. The only phone records analyzed so far are from 2002-2006-*** claim Dicks visits happened in the 1990's. If you want to hear some other potential list makers, listen to the last five minutes of the show on the podcast below: http://freepress.org/radio/theprogressi ... 252007.mp3




http://intl-news.blogspot.com/2007/05/d ... freys.html

May 8, 2007 -- Cheney on DC Madam's list. Yesterday, *** reported on the DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey's list: "*** has been informed that the CEO of a major corporation is a former CEO but, nonetheless, the aforementioned extremely high-level official of the Bush administration. The individual, who is definitely "newsworthy," reportedly engaged the services of Palfrey's escort firm while he was the CEO and maintained a residence off Chain Bridge Road in the Ballantrae neighborhood in McLean, Virginia, a few blocks from the headquarters of the CIA."

*** has confirmed with extremely knowledgeable CIA and Pentagon sources that the former CEO who is on Deborah Jeane Palfrey's list is Vice President Dick Cheney.





The DC Madam: She Took the Fall for Everyone

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-kai ... 99707.html

Susan Kaiser Greenland

The DC Madam: She Took the Fall for Everyone

Posted May 1, 2008 | 04:25 PM (EST)


You may be surprised that a middle-aged mom is writing a post advocating the legalization of prostitution. Here's why. A short while ago, news got out that the DC Madam killed herself while visiting her mother in Florida: a death that was really unnecessary.

For those who haven't followed the salacious story of the DC Madam, her name was Deborah Jeane Palfrey and she ran what she referred to as a "legal and high-end erotic fantasy service" that catered to elite clients in Washington, DC. In mid-April, a jury found her guilty of money laundering, using the mail for illegal purposes and racketeering. Ms. Palfrey's known clients included Senator David Vitter and Randall Tobias, a former State Department official. Her client list apparently contained thousands of names including high-ranking officials at the White House and Pentagon, movie stars, lobbyists, and prominent DC attorneys.

I don't know about you, but I haven't heard of Senator David Vitter or any of the other clients on the DC Madam's list killing themselves or, for that matter, facing jail time.

The Sacramento Bee reported a couple of weeks ago that:


A review of prostitution arrests in Sacramento County reveals an alarming gender bias. According to arrest data compiled by Sacramento Bee reporters Phillip Reese and Ryan Lillis over the past three months, Sacramento city police and county sheriff's deputies arrested 210 prostitutes but only two of their customers.


210 women arrested and only two men - what's that about? You think it might be blatant gender discrimination?

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If we can't treat men and woman equally here, what about this for a solution: let's regulate it, let's tax it, and let's mind our own business. Failing that, why don't we arrest a couple of the high level clients whose names keep popping up on these lists and send them to jail? Who knows, that might bring about a shift in public policy.
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Postby professorpan » Thu May 01, 2008 11:44 pm

Is it possible that facing of a 55-year sentence, Ms. Palfrey was going to do some talking, in hopes of a reduced sentence? Were some persons concerned that an angry or vindictive Palfrey might write tell-all?


Absolutely.
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Postby professorpan » Thu May 01, 2008 11:55 pm

May 1 - Walpurgis Night.
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