Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

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What Single Group Would Have to Strike to Enable an End to War?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:30 pm

No number of striking people can stop the Military Industrial Complex
2
13%
Teachers
0
No votes
Librarians
0
No votes
Police
0
No votes
Fire Department
0
No votes
Truckers
2
13%
Farmers
0
No votes
Taxi Drivers
1
6%
Military Personnel
11
69%
Politicians
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 16

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue May 13, 2008 12:34 pm

JackRiddler said:

More likely it will happen because of military defeat.


I absolutely agree. But Americans might as well practise mobilising and building some kind of genuine popular movement so there's an alternative when all the war criminals die of old age...
"If you're not careful the newspapers will have you hating the oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing." - Malcolm X
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Postby elfismiles » Wed May 14, 2008 5:50 pm

Hola everyone,

I've been wanting to reply specifically to the different responses but haven't had a chance yet.

So for now, I'd just like to extend a broad THANK YOU to all those who've participated so far.

I really appreciate the input this crowd has to offer.

more soon.

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Postby elfismiles » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:31 pm

I Declare PRESIDENTIAL sELECTION DAY as STRIKE FOR PEACE DAY

"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!" - Mario Savio



"Remember Logan's Run? Everything was great, until you turned 30. Then the state put you down. But most people could live with that, because there was Carousel. Sure, no one was ever "renewed," but there was always the hope that it would happen to you.

I'm reminded of Carousel every election cycle. ("I'm flying…!")

I think hope in Carousel has to pass, and the ride has to be virtually riderless, before things can change substantively for the better.

It won't win you many friends shouting it these days, but 'Life Clocks are a lie! Carousel is a lie! There is no renewal!' " - Jeff Wells www.RigorousIntuition.ca


AND ... TAX DAY is now annual STRIKE FOR PEACE DAY
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Sweejak » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:40 pm

I've been waiting and advocating for a general strike for almost 10 years. Has the time come? Because if not that I don't see any option other than a revolution.
Here's 2007's version.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby 23 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:43 pm

Former Secretary of State Alexander Haig once said something, which revealed the only group of Americans who can effectively end our war mongering:

"Let them march all they want, as long as they continue to pay their taxes."

That be us, of course.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Nordic » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:45 pm

Considering most people have taxes automatically removed from their paychecks, most of us don't even have THAT choice.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:33 pm

You can change your W4 to have less withheld. Put the amount that would've been withheld in a trust or something; otherwise, you're just a deadbeat as far as they're concerned. People are jailed for it either way, of course.
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:22 pm

Either military personal, or everyone else..

Or what Ianeye said.

I haven't voted tho cos thats not an option.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby chump » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:08 pm

Mothers [y]
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:37 pm

Mothers, Daughters, Wives

A song by Judy Small©1983 Crafty Maid Music ©1990 Larrikin Music Publishing Pty Ltd

Chorus:
The first time it was fathers the last time it was sons
And in between your husbands marched away with drums and guns
And you never thought to question you just went on with your lives
'Cause all they'd taught you who to be was mothers, daughters, wives

You can only just remember the tears your mothers shed
As they sat and read the papers through the lists and lists of dead
And the gold frames held the photographs that mothers kissed each night
And the doorframes held the shocked and silent strangers from the fight

Chorus

And it was twenty-one years later with children of your own
The trumpet sounded once again and the soldier boys were gone
And you drove their trucks and made their guns and tended to their wounds
And at night you kissed their photographs and prayed for safe returns

And after it was over you had to learn again
To be just wives and mothers when you'd done the work of men
So you worked to help the needy and you never trod on toes
And the photos on the pianos struck a happy family pose

Chorus

Then your daughters grew to women and your little boys top men
And you prayed that you were dreaming when the call-up came again
But you proudly smiled and held your tears as they bravely waved goodbye
But the photos on the mantelpieces always made you cry

And now your growing older and in time the photos fade
And in widowhood you sit back and reflect on the parade
Of the passing of your memories as your daughters change their lives
Seeing more to our existence than just mothers, daughters, wives

Chorus

And you believed them

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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Uncle $cam » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:22 am

"Careful with That Axe, Eugene" it's been my experience, as soon as anyone anywhere start talking 'general strike' or 'tax resistence' with any seriousness that's when the feds move in with overwhelming heat, i.e., they bring the hammer down swift and hard... just becareful peeps. You really want to see this board disrupted and most certainly shut completely down this open talk of GS & TR will bring it like nothing else will. Friendly warning.
Suffering raises up those souls that are truly great; it is only small souls that are made mean-spirited by it.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:03 pm

Nordic wrote:Considering most people have taxes automatically removed from their paychecks, most of us don't even have THAT choice.


Again, I keep coming back to this phenomenal summation script for Boston Legal:

STICK IT! There is no fixing AmeriKa's moral compass
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No More Taxes to Fund Endless War!
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:04 pm

chump wrote:Mothers [y]


GREAT suggestion there chump.
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:07 pm

Uncle $cam wrote:"Careful with That Axe, Eugene" it's been my experience, as soon as anyone anywhere start talking 'general strike' or 'tax resistence' with any seriousness that's when the feds move in with overwhelming heat, i.e., they bring the hammer down swift and hard... just becareful peeps. You really want to see this board disrupted and most certainly shut completely down this open talk of GS & TR will bring it like nothing else will. Friendly warning.


Dare I say "Bring It ON!"

We're my tax refund?
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Re: Strike to End War? What Will It Take?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:19 pm

Uncle $cam wrote:"Careful with That Axe, Eugene" it's been my experience, as soon as anyone anywhere start talking 'general strike' or 'tax resistence' with any seriousness that's when the feds move in with overwhelming heat, i.e., they bring the hammer down swift and hard... just becareful peeps. You really want to see this board disrupted and most certainly shut completely down this open talk of GS & TR will bring it like nothing else will. Friendly warning.


Whats an unfriendly warning?





Seriously ... thats what it always boils down to freedom or security. There are always consequences for protecting liberty, fear of the consequences is something that stops people doing it.
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